NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate] - Version 4

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

I vote AYE on the constitution.

[Lamaredia]

I vote AYE on the constitution.

[Skeckoa]

I gladly vote AYE to the constitution

[Beta Test]

I, Rupert Weinthal, vote Aye to the Constitution.

[McKleigh]

At this time my vote is NAY on the constitution

[Phocidaea]

Aye.

Still not sure about amendment procedures, but the rest is good.

[The Nihilistic view]

Aye.

Still not sure about amendment procedures, but the rest is good.

Amendment procedures?

[Kouralia]

Nay.

[Dendart]

Nay to the constitution

[Euloria]

Where can I see the new constitution?

[Oneracon]

Where can I see the new constitution?

Here: viewtopic.php?p=19141537#p19141537

[Phocidaea]

Aye.

Still not sure about amendment procedures, but the rest is good.

Amendment procedures?

Yes, or rather an apparent lack of them. I'm troubled by the concept of an unamendable constitution.

[Euloria]

Where can I see the new constitution?

Here: viewtopic.php?p=19141537#p19141537

Thank you, Senator.

[Malgrave]

Aye on the new constitution.

[Euloria]

There are some problems I have with it but it will be the best we can get, I vote AYE to the new constitution.

[The Nihilistic view]

Amendment procedures?

Yes, or rather an apparent lack of them. I'm troubled by the concept of an unamendable constitution.

Through the senate obviously, this is not some retarded american constitution fuckwitary. It is simply a bill like any other, but one that needs a slightly higher Yay vote than normal to amend and the name Constitution.

[Euloria]

Yes, or rather an apparent lack of them. I'm troubled by the concept of an unamendable constitution.

Through the senate obviously, this is not some retarded american constitution fuckwitary. It is simply a bill like any other, but one that needs a slightly higher Yay vote than normal to amend and the name Constitution.

The American Constitution is amendable...

[Phocidaea]

Yes, or rather an apparent lack of them. I'm troubled by the concept of an unamendable constitution.

Through the senate obviously, this is not some retarded american constitution fuckwitary. It is simply a bill like any other, but one that needs a slightly higher Yay vote than normal to amend and the name Constitution.

Then what's the point of calling it a Constitution?!

[Timsvill]

I vote aye on the constitution.

[Unicario]

Through the senate obviously, this is not some retarded american constitution fuckwitary. It is simply a bill like any other, but one that needs a slightly higher Yay vote than normal to amend and the name Constitution.

The American Constitution is amendable...

But it requires a process that is abysmal at best to do so.

[Euloria]

The American Constitution is amendable...

But it requires a process that is abysmal at best to do so.

Not really.

[Phocidaea]

The American Constitution is amendable...

But it requires a process that is abysmal at best to do so.

I agree that the American process is too difficult, but if it can be amended by the Senate with a simple majority, there's not much point calling it a Constitution.

[Unicario]

But it requires a process that is abysmal at best to do so.

Not really.

Amendment proposed, debate for months, pass the Senate, pass the House, has to be ratified by two-thirds of the provinces of the nation before a certain length of time or else the amendment is cancelled (even if you're one ratification shy). Rinse and repeat.

[Euloria]

Not really.

Amendment proposed, debate for months, pass the Senate, pass the House, has to be ratified by two-thirds of the provinces of the nation before a certain length of time or else the amendment is cancelled (even if you're one ratification shy). Rinse and repeat.

That is because the Constitutions is supposed to be something hard to change. That is half the point. Constitutions are supposed to include unalienable rights and the function of the government. Taking a long time not olny allows careful deliberation, but also notify the public over it more and more.

As for the provinces(states), that is part of being a federal system.

[Unicario]

Amendment proposed, debate for months, pass the Senate, pass the House, has to be ratified by two-thirds of the provinces of the nation before a certain length of time or else the amendment is cancelled (even if you're one ratification shy). Rinse and repeat.

That is because the Constitutions is supposed to be something hard to change. That is half the point. Constitutions are supposed to include unalienable rights and the function of the government. Taking a long time not olny allows careful deliberation, but also notify the public over it more and more.

As for the provinces(states), that is part of being a federal system.

Except when there is a need to change the Constitution, in which case it can take much longer than is necessary to do so.