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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:22 pm

Well, got that over with.

So what's your favourite song, guys?
"And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?"

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Postby Corenea » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:23 pm

Ainin wrote:Well, got that over with.

So what's your favourite song, guys?

Bohemian Rhapsody by the Queens
Lumberjack by Monty Python (not a music group but damn, that song's funny)
Last edited by Corenea on Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:25 pm

I got a lot of favorite songs. One's In The Air Tonight.

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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:26 pm

I love how no one noticed Dragomere got kicked out of the Senate, and instead focused on my distraction question. :lol2:
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Postby Corenea » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:27 pm

Ainin wrote:I love how no one noticed Dragomere got kicked out of the Senate, and instead focused on my distraction question. :lol2:

I noticed but I'm kind of tired right now to party
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:27 pm

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:Fellow Senators,

We, the NSG Senate Administrators, have come to a consensus upon the matter of the banning of Dragomere, raised to our immediate attention by a recently assembled petition.

Through frequent godmodding, as well as unhelpful and rude roleplaying tactics and claims, Dragomere has angered and upset many members of this roleplay. These instances would often continue until an administrator was forced to make a decision, or a formal ruling; several players will attest that Dragomere found little reason to stop on his own. Moreover, in many instances he did not recognize his godmodding when prompted to do so on the spot. Only recently has he started to recognize some of his past transgressions.

Godmodding at its core is not only disruptive to the roleplay itself, but it is rude to the other participants in the roleplay who wish to have a reasonable realm of events and actions. When godmodding creates a large disturbance in the roleplay, it decreases the quality of the experience for everybody else, with no positive gains for the godmodder. While some may inadvertently godmod a statistic or a couple posts, the perpetuation of this behavior is a clear sign that the godmodder is neither learning from their mistakes nor willing to listen to their peers, including those like the Senate Administration who have disciplinary power.

The Administration recalls one instance in which an administrator made an official ruling, a warning, that was promptly and consciously ignored by Dragomere. After further disruptive behavior and warnable offenses by Dragomere, the incident culminated in a two day suspension for Dragomere from the Senate. This demonstrates Dragomere’s inability to respect not only authority, but also his peers and the roleplay itself. For evidence of the displeasure of Dragomere’s fellow roleplayers, we need only to point to the wide support for the petition brought to us.

Furthermore, upon numerous reports, it has been found and confirmed that Dragomere abused the power of the retcon to avoid punishments and/or roleplay repercussions. In addition, Dragomere has edited posts with the intent of avoiding administrative action and roleplay consequences. In this light we cite, among other incidents, the use of a Chinook strategic lift helicopter that was retconned without consent of all parties, done by Dragomere to avoid repercussions by law enforcement inside of the roleplay. This behavior is unacceptable not only in the Senate, but in common roleplay conventions on the NationStates forums. As stated prior while on the subject of godmodding, actions such as the abuse of the retcon disrespect the Senate roleplay and the roleplayers therein.

Abusing the retcon and godmodding do not constitute bannable offenses when on their own, nor even when combined in small quantities. In this situation, however, there has been a demonstrated and systematic perpetuation of these behaviors to the extent that it can be concluded that the roleplay has been significantly and uniquely harmed by the actions of Dragomere.

Therefore, it is our duty as administrators to announce to Dragomere that he is now on Warning Level Black, signifying an unconditional expulsion and ban from the NSG Senate roleplay for not only for the account entitled “Dragomere,” but for all other accounts controlled by the same player. This includes all threads associated with the roleplay whether or not they are marked by an appropriate tag. If Dragomere violates this ban, he will accordingly be reported to NationStates moderation. A violation will also greatly decrease the chance that he ever participates in this roleplay again.

Dragomere may reapply in no less than 8 weeks (56 days) from the date of this post. Any readmission will be at the sole discretion of the NSG Senate Administrators, who will convene and vote on the matter.

- The NSG Senate Administration

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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:28 pm

Anyways, the answer to that question for me is either Viva la Vida - Coldplay or Skyfall - Adele.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:28 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot to say that I'll be leaving a gift behind. ;)

Edit: Dammit, Ainin, you and your sneaky posting.
Last edited by Maklohi Vai on Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:29 pm

Ainin wrote:I love how no one noticed Dragomere got kicked out of the Senate...:lol2:

We moved on.

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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:29 pm

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:Fellow Senators,

We, the NSG Senate Administrators, have come to a consensus upon the matter of the banning of Dragomere, raised to our immediate attention by a recently assembled petition.

Through frequent godmodding, as well as unhelpful and rude roleplaying tactics and claims, Dragomere has angered and upset many members of this roleplay. These instances would often continue until an administrator was forced to make a decision, or a formal ruling; several players will attest that Dragomere found little reason to stop on his own. Moreover, in many instances he did not recognize his godmodding when prompted to do so on the spot. Only recently has he started to recognize some of his past transgressions.

Godmodding at its core is not only disruptive to the roleplay itself, but it is rude to the other participants in the roleplay who wish to have a reasonable realm of events and actions. When godmodding creates a large disturbance in the roleplay, it decreases the quality of the experience for everybody else, with no positive gains for the godmodder. While some may inadvertently godmod a statistic or a couple posts, the perpetuation of this behavior is a clear sign that the godmodder is neither learning from their mistakes nor willing to listen to their peers, including those like the Senate Administration who have disciplinary power.

The Administration recalls one instance in which an administrator made an official ruling, a warning, that was promptly and consciously ignored by Dragomere. After further disruptive behavior and warnable offenses by Dragomere, the incident culminated in a two day suspension for Dragomere from the Senate. This demonstrates Dragomere’s inability to respect not only authority, but also his peers and the roleplay itself. For evidence of the displeasure of Dragomere’s fellow roleplayers, we need only to point to the wide support for the petition brought to us.

Furthermore, upon numerous reports, it has been found and confirmed that Dragomere abused the power of the retcon to avoid punishments and/or roleplay repercussions. In addition, Dragomere has edited posts with the intent of avoiding administrative action and roleplay consequences. In this light we cite, among other incidents, the use of a Chinook strategic lift helicopter that was retconned without consent of all parties, done by Dragomere to avoid repercussions by law enforcement inside of the roleplay. This behavior is unacceptable not only in the Senate, but in common roleplay conventions on the NationStates forums. As stated prior while on the subject of godmodding, actions such as the abuse of the retcon disrespect the Senate roleplay and the roleplayers therein.

Abusing the retcon and godmodding do not constitute bannable offenses when on their own, nor even when combined in small quantities. In this situation, however, there has been a demonstrated and systematic perpetuation of these behaviors to the extent that it can be concluded that the roleplay has been significantly and uniquely harmed by the actions of Dragomere.

Therefore, it is our duty as administrators to announce to Dragomere that he is now on Warning Level Black, signifying an unconditional expulsion and ban from the NSG Senate roleplay for not only for the account entitled “Dragomere,” but for all other accounts controlled by the same player. This includes all threads associated with the roleplay whether or not they are marked by an appropriate tag. If Dragomere violates this ban, he will accordingly be reported to NationStates moderation. A violation will also greatly decrease the chance that he ever participates in this roleplay again.

Dragomere may reapply in no less than 8 weeks (56 days) from the date of this post. Any readmission will be at the sole discretion of the NSG Senate Administrators, who will convene and vote on the matter.

- The NSG Senate Administration

Yes! Instead of focusing on the trolling of Nihil they focus on someone who retconned most everything!

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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:30 pm

Wait, I just realised I didn't spellcheck the thing before posting it.

It's full of American English!
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:32 pm

Ainin wrote:Wait, I just realised I didn't spellcheck the thing before posting it.

It's full of American English!

You're welcome. :P
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:34 pm

Ainin wrote:Wait, I just realised I didn't spellcheck the thing before posting it.

It's full of American English!

Yeah, the use of Sacré Bleu, Tabernac and Osti is quite lacking.
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:35 pm

I made a couple changes.

  • Changed "recognize", "behavior" and a couple words like that to their proper spellings ( :P )
  • Got rid of the mods-as-weapons line in the ruling
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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:39 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
NSG Senate Administrators wrote:Fellow Senators,

We, the NSG Senate Administrators, have come to a consensus upon the matter of the banning of Dragomere, raised to our immediate attention by a recently assembled petition.

Through frequent godmodding, as well as unhelpful and rude roleplaying tactics and claims, Dragomere has angered and upset many members of this roleplay. These instances would often continue until an administrator was forced to make a decision, or a formal ruling; several players will attest that Dragomere found little reason to stop on his own. Moreover, in many instances he did not recognize his godmodding when prompted to do so on the spot. Only recently has he started to recognize some of his past transgressions.

Godmodding at its core is not only disruptive to the roleplay itself, but it is rude to the other participants in the roleplay who wish to have a reasonable realm of events and actions. When godmodding creates a large disturbance in the roleplay, it decreases the quality of the experience for everybody else, with no positive gains for the godmodder. While some may inadvertently godmod a statistic or a couple posts, the perpetuation of this behavior is a clear sign that the godmodder is neither learning from their mistakes nor willing to listen to their peers, including those like the Senate Administration who have disciplinary power.

The Administration recalls one instance in which an administrator made an official ruling, a warning, that was promptly and consciously ignored by Dragomere. After further disruptive behavior and warnable offenses by Dragomere, the incident culminated in a two day suspension for Dragomere from the Senate. This demonstrates Dragomere’s inability to respect not only authority, but also his peers and the roleplay itself. For evidence of the displeasure of Dragomere’s fellow roleplayers, we need only to point to the wide support for the petition brought to us.

Furthermore, upon numerous reports, it has been found and confirmed that Dragomere abused the power of the retcon to avoid punishments and/or roleplay repercussions. In addition, Dragomere has edited posts with the intent of avoiding administrative action and roleplay consequences. In this light we cite, among other incidents, the use of a Chinook strategic lift helicopter that was retconned without consent of all parties, done by Dragomere to avoid repercussions by law enforcement inside of the roleplay. This behavior is unacceptable not only in the Senate, but in common roleplay conventions on the NationStates forums. As stated prior while on the subject of godmodding, actions such as the abuse of the retcon disrespect the Senate roleplay and the roleplayers therein.

Abusing the retcon and godmodding do not constitute bannable offenses when on their own, nor even when combined in small quantities. In this situation, however, there has been a demonstrated and systematic perpetuation of these behaviors to the extent that it can be concluded that the roleplay has been significantly and uniquely harmed by the actions of Dragomere.

Therefore, it is our duty as administrators to announce to Dragomere that he is now on Warning Level Black, signifying an unconditional expulsion and ban from the NSG Senate roleplay for not only for the account entitled “Dragomere,” but for all other accounts controlled by the same player. This includes all threads associated with the roleplay whether or not they are marked by an appropriate tag. If Dragomere violates this ban, he will accordingly be reported to NationStates moderation. A violation will also greatly decrease the chance that he ever participates in this roleplay again.

Dragomere may reapply in no less than 8 weeks (56 days) from the date of this post. Any readmission will be at the sole discretion of the NSG Senate Administrators, who will convene and vote on the matter.

- The NSG Senate Administration

Yes! Instead of focusing on the trolling of Nihil they focus on someone who retconned most everything!

If you can send us a concise list of Nihil's alleged offences, we will consider it, but since that hasn't happened yet, we aren't taking disciplinary action against him.
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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:41 pm

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[OOC: I'm going to China, so I probably won't have great Internet.]
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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:41 pm

Ainin wrote:Well, got that over with.

So what's your favourite song, guys?

At the moment I Wanna Go by Summer Heart or Breezeblocks by Alt-J
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OOC: Ainin's post reminded me to do this. Geil, sorry for not clearing this with you before. Hope it's not too much of a burden. Also, I really am going now, the cab was just late.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:07 pm

Ainin wrote:Wait, I just realised I didn't spellcheck the thing before posting it.

It's full of American English!


Murican English best English.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:08 pm

Ainin wrote:Well, got that over with.

So what's your favourite song, guys?

Companeros by Dean Reed

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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:08 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Ainin wrote:Wait, I just realised I didn't spellcheck the thing before posting it.

It's full of American English!


Murican English best English.

English English English English English English best English English English.
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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:20 pm

Two open spots on the National Intelligence committee if anyone is interested.
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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:24 pm

New Zepuha wrote:Two open spots on the National Intelligence committee if anyone is interested.

Speaking of the NI Committee, what happened to Next Washington?
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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:29 pm

Ainin wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Two open spots on the National Intelligence committee if anyone is interested.

Speaking of the NI Committee, what happened to Next Washington?

I believe it was because he was DEATed
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