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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:35 pm

Libertechie wrote:
Ainin wrote:*looks up UKIP on Bing*
*sees meta content*
"Libertarian, non-racist party seeking Britain's withdrawal from the European Union"

What kind of party has to specifically note it's non-racist?

Hahahah
Everyone *and I mean everyone* accuses them of racism for being anti-immigration and anti-birkha.

Then they probably have a terrible PR team.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:36 pm

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Britanno wrote:What is it with the US media and the Royals? It's as though they want a monarchy themselves for god's sake (I recognise that the normal people in America don't).

The irony, a country proud of a history that is built on the defeat of the royals can't get enough of the royals. Ha.

They're celebrities, basically.
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Postby Gallup » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:45 pm


OH MY GOD you spam videos in this lobby more than a spambot does!
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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:48 pm

Ainin wrote:
Libertechie wrote:Hahahah
Everyone *and I mean everyone* accuses them of racism for being anti-immigration and anti-birkha.

Then they probably have a terrible PR team.

UKIP are really just populists, they don't needa be PC
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:49 pm

Libertechie wrote:
Ainin wrote:Then they probably have a terrible PR team.

UKIP are really just populists, they don't needa be PC

Populism... ugh. I loathe populism.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:50 pm

Gallup wrote:

OH MY GOD you spam videos in this lobby more than a spambot does!

No one is forcing you to click them :3. It's a good song that represents my mood towards the actions of someone in the Senate :3.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:52 pm

PC? Anyone mention the old Prog-Cons? ^_^

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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:52 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Libertechie wrote:UKIP are really just populists, they don't needa be PC

Populism... ugh. I loathe populism.

And anti-intellectualism ughhh :palm:
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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:53 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:PC? Anyone mention the old Prog-Cons? ^_^

Political correctness.
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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:54 pm

Ainin wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:PC? Anyone mention the old Prog-Cons? ^_^

Political correctness.

The most over-used word in NZ politics.
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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:55 pm

Btw who's up for creating a Church of Aurentina with me perhaps?
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:59 pm

Would I be allowed to motion for a ban of video links that have nothing to do with the Senate since they're annoying and just clutter up the lobby.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:00 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Would I be allowed to motion for a ban of video links that have nothing to do with the Senate since they're annoying and just clutter up the lobby.

If so, seconded.
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Postby Finium » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:00 pm

Libertechie wrote:Btw who's up for creating a Church of Aurentina with me perhaps?

Like an Episcopalian type thing?
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Postby Ainin » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:00 pm

Libertechie wrote:
Ainin wrote:Political correctness.

The most over-used word in NZ politics.

And in a lot of other places too.

"You're not allowed to preach genocide in our city square."
"STUPID POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!"

:P
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Postby Malgrave » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:01 pm

Ainin wrote:*looks up UKIP on Bing*
*sees meta content*
"Libertarian, non-racist party seeking Britain's withdrawal from the European Union"

What kind of party has to specifically note it's non-racist?


UKIP has been caught in the past with Former National Front/BNP members. Senior members of the organisation have also been caught making racist and sexist comments.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/arti ... n-dictator
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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:05 pm

Finium wrote:
Libertechie wrote:Btw who's up for creating a Church of Aurentina with me perhaps?

Like an Episcopalian type thing?

Episcopalian in nature, as it would be like the national denomination (NOT NATIONAL RELIGION BEFORE YOU PULL ME UP ON SECULARISM) of Christianity perhaps? I am reformed in theological beliefs but I'd settle on making it somewhat Lutheran, or independent?
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Postby Finium » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:06 pm

Libertechie wrote:
Finium wrote:Like an Episcopalian type thing?

Episcopalian in nature, as it would be like the national denomination (NOT NATIONAL RELIGION BEFORE YOU PULL ME UP ON SECULARISM) of Christianity perhaps? I am reformed in theological beliefs but I'd settle on making it somewhat Lutheran, or independent?

Well... I'm not up to date on modern theology, so I probably wouldn't be much help. I would however go to church on Sunday.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:08 pm

I have a question (this relates to a possible bill I will be drafting if it turns out to be necessary): What kinds of medicines, cares and treatments are covered under the universal healthcare system? Does it only cover medicine that has actually been scientifically been proven to work?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:09 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I have a question (this relates to a possible bill I will be drafting if it turns out to be necessary): What kinds of medicines, cares and treatments are covered under the universal healthcare system? Does it only cover medicine that has actually been scientifically been proven to work?

I'd help you write a bill on that.
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Postby Libertechie » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:10 pm

Finium wrote:
Libertechie wrote:Episcopalian in nature, as it would be like the national denomination (NOT NATIONAL RELIGION BEFORE YOU PULL ME UP ON SECULARISM) of Christianity perhaps? I am reformed in theological beliefs but I'd settle on making it somewhat Lutheran, or independent?

Well... I'm not up to date on modern theology, so I probably wouldn't be much help. I would however go to church on Sunday.

What do you mean by the first?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:10 pm

Next time you post an offensive or unhelpful video link in an admin-controlled thread, you're getting a warning for spamming and disruption of debate.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Would I be allowed to motion for a ban of video links that have nothing to do with the Senate since they're annoying and just clutter up the lobby.

We don't really have a provision for that, so no. But I can do what I did above.

By the way, folks, the admins have moved much closer to a decision on the Dragomere petition.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:11 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:I have a question (this relates to a possible bill I will be drafting if it turns out to be necessary): What kinds of medicines, cares and treatments are covered under the universal healthcare system? Does it only cover medicine that has actually been scientifically been proven to work?

I'd help you write a bill on that.

Thanks. I'll probably have my first (very rough) draft in the coffee shop sometime this evening (USA west coast time).

I'd also support a ban on the advertising of sugar water homeopathy as actually being medicine. Because it's not.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:12 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Next time you post an offensive or unhelpful video link in an admin-controlled thread, you're getting a warning for spamming and disruption of debate.

This thread isn't for debate, hence the Chambers.

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