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Postby Britanno » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:10 am

Belmaria wrote:OT hasn't officially nominated a cabinet yet, so we don't have an official thread. And if I remember correctly, OT only barely passed the vote.


So how come you say you are Minister of Education?
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Postby Corenea » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:11 am

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Belmaria wrote:OT hasn't officially nominated a cabinet yet, so we don't have an official thread. And if I remember correctly, OT only barely passed the vote.


So how come you say you are Minister of Education?

We already got the position down but we didn't officially announce it yet
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Postby Britanno » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:15 am

I see thanks.

Did any crazy IC things happen (such as terrorist attacks or whatever) that I should know about happen while I was gone?
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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:18 am

Britanno wrote:I see thanks.

Did any crazy IC things happen (such as terrorist attacks or whatever) that I should know about happen while I was gone?

A good portion of the city got bombed, and a couple hundred people were killed in the attack, the VP and Ainin were shot aswell. Not dead, injured.
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Postby Corenea » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:21 am

Britanno wrote:I see thanks.

Did any crazy IC things happen (such as terrorist attacks or whatever) that I should know about happen while I was gone?

Some nationalists terrorized a poutine resturant, the Vice President got shot (he's still alive though), Ainin got shot (I believe, not exactly sure of what happened) we have ancoms vandalizing property, mafias destroyed their commune, and I created a security force that wear Roman legionnaire armor and gave them whiffle bats and shields
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Postby Belmaria » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:22 am

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Belmaria wrote:OT hasn't officially nominated a cabinet yet, so we don't have an official thread. And if I remember correctly, OT only barely passed the vote.

Also, the leader of the opposition appears to be under scrutiny already.


That's lies and slander. Even just a few sentences in, I found the first lie. If you read the conversation, I only complained after seeing the PpT having already posted a few hours beforehand - My TG having been sent the day before. Considering it was an important matter, one which could even have turned a closer confirmation one way or another if I'd been allowed to speak, then I feel that I have every right to be aggrieved. I shall read the rest, then report back.

EDIT: Ok, second paragraph was about me politely asking Kamchastkia to explain his support for an illegal terrorist movement. He told me to piss off, I did not return with any insults and made sure I did not lower to his level. There was already a widely-supported motion for the SAP's removal from the coalition at the time.

EDIT 2: Third paragraph is laughable. You'll notice the shadow cabinet was sorted before the end of the Prime Minister's confirmation, when the Prime Minister cannot ready his own cabinet even now, while purposely excluding a Customs Minister as a political statement.

Well actually, we have a cabinet ready but we haven't publicly announced it yet. You didn't have your Culture and Sports Minister sorted out until after we already finalized our cabinet.

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Postby Britanno » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:24 am

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:27 am

Glasgia wrote:
Belmaria wrote:OT hasn't officially nominated a cabinet yet, so we don't have an official thread. And if I remember correctly, OT only barely passed the vote.

Also, the leader of the opposition appears to be under scrutiny already.


That's lies and slander. Even just a few sentences in, I found the first lie. If you read the conversation, I only complained after seeing the PpT having already posted a few hours beforehand - My TG having been sent the day before. Considering it was an important matter, one which could even have turned a closer confirmation one way or another if I'd been allowed to speak, then I feel that I have every right to be aggrieved. I shall read the rest, then report back.

EDIT: Ok, second paragraph was about me politely asking Kamchastkia to explain his support for an illegal terrorist movement. He told me to piss off, I did not return with any insults and made sure I did not lower to his level. There was already a widely-supported motion for the SAP's removal from the coalition at the time.

EDIT 2: Third paragraph is laughable. You'll notice the shadow cabinet was sorted before the end of the Prime Minister's confirmation, when the Prime Minister cannot ready his own cabinet even now, while purposely excluding a Customs Minister as a political statement.



Are you joking? I logged on as PpT and made a post at around 10:15-20 and you posted your rubbish at 10:35 (my set timezone) .

That's no more than 15-20 minutes.

I'm going to gather the time stamp evidence and then i'm going to raise a motion.
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Postby Glasgia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 am

Belmaria wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
That's lies and slander. Even just a few sentences in, I found the first lie. If you read the conversation, I only complained after seeing the PpT having already posted a few hours beforehand - My TG having been sent the day before. Considering it was an important matter, one which could even have turned a closer confirmation one way or another if I'd been allowed to speak, then I feel that I have every right to be aggrieved. I shall read the rest, then report back.

EDIT: Ok, second paragraph was about me politely asking Kamchastkia to explain his support for an illegal terrorist movement. He told me to piss off, I did not return with any insults and made sure I did not lower to his level. There was already a widely-supported motion for the SAP's removal from the coalition at the time.

EDIT 2: Third paragraph is laughable. You'll notice the shadow cabinet was sorted before the end of the Prime Minister's confirmation, when the Prime Minister cannot ready his own cabinet even now, while purposely excluding a Customs Minister as a political statement.

Well actually, we have a cabinet ready but we haven't publicly announced it yet. You didn't have your Culture and Sports Minister sorted out until after we already finalized our cabinet.

The foundation will investigate the SPpT matter further.


I'm not claiming I was necessarily correct in the PpT matter, just with enough reason to be aggravated.

Also, your cabinet wasn't ready before ours:

Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:38 am
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Old Tyrannia wrote:So, chaps, do we have a complete cabinet yet?

The LPA portion is complete.

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Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:58 pm
Maklohi Vai wrote:Oh, yeah, nobody else has come up. You have the position.

Alright, thank you. If the CP doesn't fill it and nobody declares their interest in the next two days, you'll get the spot.
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Postby Glasgia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:30 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
That's lies and slander. Even just a few sentences in, I found the first lie. If you read the conversation, I only complained after seeing the PpT having already posted a few hours beforehand - My TG having been sent the day before. Considering it was an important matter, one which could even have turned a closer confirmation one way or another if I'd been allowed to speak, then I feel that I have every right to be aggrieved. I shall read the rest, then report back.

EDIT: Ok, second paragraph was about me politely asking Kamchastkia to explain his support for an illegal terrorist movement. He told me to piss off, I did not return with any insults and made sure I did not lower to his level. There was already a widely-supported motion for the SAP's removal from the coalition at the time.

EDIT 2: Third paragraph is laughable. You'll notice the shadow cabinet was sorted before the end of the Prime Minister's confirmation, when the Prime Minister cannot ready his own cabinet even now, while purposely excluding a Customs Minister as a political statement.



Are you joking? I logged on as PpT and made a post at around 10:15-20 and you posted your rubbish at 10:35 (my set timezone) .

That's no more than 15-20 minutes.

I'm going to gather the time stamp evidence and then i'm going to raise a motion.


Please, I haven't got the greatest memory. All I can remember that you were logged in before I complained - Hence, you could've read the TG and replied to it. If you want to continue the debate, feel free to do so but try to be civil.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:08 am

Glasgia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:

Are you joking? I logged on as PpT and made a post at around 10:15-20 and you posted your rubbish at 10:35 (my set timezone) .

That's no more than 15-20 minutes.

I'm going to gather the time stamp evidence and then i'm going to raise a motion.


Please, I haven't got the greatest memory. All I can remember that you were logged in before I complained - Hence, you could've read the TG and replied to it. If you want to continue the debate, feel free to do so but try to be civil.


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I would like to say I'm somewhere in between appalled and frustrated by the President Pro-Tempore's conduct. While merely not noticing my comment could be excused as a mistake, he also managed to completely ignore my telegram on the matter. I'm not sure if this is actual bias or a pure mistake, but it's not good.


As we can see, that is a gap of about 16 mins. From me logging on to close the vote, to you posting your.......stuff.

So how do we proceed from here? Officially? or unofficially?
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Postby Glasgia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:14 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
Please, I haven't got the greatest memory. All I can remember that you were logged in before I complained - Hence, you could've read the TG and replied to it. If you want to continue the debate, feel free to do so but try to be civil.


Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:19 am
President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
Voting ended a few hours ago. All votes cast after this one were done after the 48 hour limit had expired and so are annulled. this is the last valid ballot.

Either myself or the secretary will do the official count over the next few hours. But you may begin debating section b below.

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Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:35 am

Glasgia wrote:
I would like to say I'm somewhere in between appalled and frustrated by the President Pro-Tempore's conduct. While merely not noticing my comment could be excused as a mistake, he also managed to completely ignore my telegram on the matter. I'm not sure if this is actual bias or a pure mistake, but it's not good.


As we can see, that is a gap of about 16 mins. From me logging on to close the vote, to you posting your.......stuff.

So how do we proceed from here? Officially? or unofficially?


You'd logged in and logged off again, that's what matters. You had the chance to check and respond to your telegrams, which in at least my eyes was a very important matter, but you didn't.

If that last sentence is a threat, which it appears to be, I don't appreciate it in the slightest.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:26 am

Glasgia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:35 am



As we can see, that is a gap of about 16 mins. From me logging on to close the vote, to you posting your.......stuff.

So how do we proceed from here? Officially? or unofficially?


You'd logged in and logged off again, that's what matters. You had the chance to check and respond to your telegrams, which in at least my eyes was a very important matter, but you didn't.

If that last sentence is a threat, which it appears to be, I don't appreciate it in the slightest.


You could just apologise, for it? Mad idea I know. Giving you a chance to not go through the official channels is a threat now? Next time I will just go straight to a motion then.

Therefore I officially motion questioning Senator Robert's honesty due to the above evidence and his refusal to apologise for what is clearly not the truth.
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Postby Glasgia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:28 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
You'd logged in and logged off again, that's what matters. You had the chance to check and respond to your telegrams, which in at least my eyes was a very important matter, but you didn't.

If that last sentence is a threat, which it appears to be, I don't appreciate it in the slightest.


You could just apologise, for it? Mad idea I know. Giving you a chance to not go through the official channels is a threat now? Next time I will just go straight to a motion then.

Therefore I officially motion questioning Senator Robert's honesty due to the above evidence and his refusal to apologise for what is clearly not the truth.


I explained my position. You could've checked and replied, you didn't. I believe it could possibly of hindered the opposition's campaign against the PM's confirmation, thus the reason I felt I should complain. Afterwards, you still continued to refuse to answer a basic request. I will say no more on this issue.
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Postby Ainin » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:32 am

Belmaria wrote:Also, the leader of the opposition appears to be under scrutiny already.

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Postby Belmaria » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:41 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Therefore I officially motion questioning Senator Robert's honesty due to the above evidence and his refusal to apologise for what is clearly not the truth.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:05 pm

Before I forget, I withdraw my motion due to receiving an apology.
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Belmaria wrote:Also, the leader of the opposition appears to be under scrutiny already.

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Slander is a crime mind you.
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Slander is a crime mind you.

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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:54 pm

Oh, the f-ed up shit you find in NSG.

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Postby Aragon-Francho » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:30 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:Oh, the f-ed up shit you find in NSG.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:33 pm

Constabularies of Aurentina wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Slander is a crime mind you.

ii Libel: Libel is determined as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character with intent to affect their social standing or to create a measurable negative impact on their life. It is a Contravention.

Emphasis on "untruthful." Therefore no libel was committed.
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Postby Glasgia » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:39 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Constabularies of Aurentina wrote:ii Libel: Libel is determined as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character with intent to affect their social standing or to create a measurable negative impact on their life. It is a Contravention.

Emphasis on "untruthful." Therefore no libel was committed.


I've disproved most of the article, if not all of it, thank you.

However, I won't press charges. Though I feel I'm entitled to do so, especially considering the non-existent factual substance of the article, I won't ever try and crack down on criticism against me. I'm not perfect, no person is, and therefore I'll have my critics. It's up to the reader to decide whether or not to believe it.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:38 am

I mean all they'd get is a 50 pound fine for libel....
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