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New Maldorainia wrote:

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Are you using them as a standard for taste?

No, just trying to figure what was poor taste in my joke.

Saying the forbidden word. It don't matter what context.

The Corparation wrote:

The Serbian Empire wrote:Is a lot of autotune!

Autotune is one of the worse things to hit music. It is an absolutely amazing tool when usedcorrectly, but its abused way to much.

Just to think some engineer from Exxon converted oil detection equipment to fix people's voices in the recording booth.

Vaxon wrote:

The Corparation wrote:Most people in this generation have terrible taste in music and no experience as to what actually constitutes music. And what goes into making/producing music.

Oh really? Most of "the clueless generation" either go into music and end up as makeshift dubstep artists, or they end up working as DJs to remix a bunch of songs on the radios.

Consider 'most' to be a benchmark of around 60%. You're saying 60% of the global fanbase of dubstep, Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber (remember, they were included in the previous argument and your disinclusion in your own post infers an inclusion of them) have enough musical nous to become working artists - that is, actually selling their music in some form or another - or working as radio remixers?

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:

New Maldorainia wrote:
No, just trying to figure what was poor taste in my joke.

Saying the forbidden word. It don't matter what context.

Ok, gotcha.

Vaxon wrote:

The Corparation wrote:Most people in this generation have terrible taste in music and no experience as to what actually constitutes music. And what goes into making/producing music.

Oh really? Most of "the clueless generation" either go into music and end up as makeshift dubstep artists, or they end up working as DJs to remix a bunch of songs on the radios.

Most of the people of this generation are dubstep artists and Radio DJs? Gonna have to tell my freidn who is an actual radio DJ that everyone wants his internship position. And better tell my little brother to get with the program and join all of the kids at his school that are producing dubstep. Not to mention that all of the kids going into music shows how my brother's HS Band classes have never been bigger or gotten more funding. (HINT:They haven't, they gotten smaller and seen less funding) All of what you're saying shows that you are entirely ignorant of music, musical artists, and the record industry.

Blasveck wrote:

Vaxon wrote:
Quality schmality. No one cares. Once dubstep takes over, everyone will be like "Who?" when you ask them about... KISS, Metallica.
Those guys. By 2075 anyways.

Mozart begs to differ.

There isn't much effort put into creating Dubstep, As far as I can tell.

As someone who heavily plays instruments and writes his own music, this infuriates me.

Better find the nearest place to buy dubstep-music equipment.
And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.
And a bunch of other stuff. Take this from a person who's starting to make dubstep.

The Corparation wrote:

Vaxon wrote:
Oh really? Most of "the clueless generation" either go into music and end up as makeshift dubstep artists, or they end up working as DJs to remix a bunch of songs on the radios.

Most of the people of this generation are dubstep artists and Radio DJs? Gonna have to tell my freidn who is an actual radio DJ that everyone wants his internship position. And better tell my little brother to get with the program and join all of the kids at his school that are producing dubstep. Not to mention that all of the kids going into music shows how my brother's HS Band classes have never been bigger or gotten more funding. (HINT:They haven't, they gotten smaller and seen less funding) All of what you're saying shows that you are entirely ignorant of music, musical artists, and the record industry.

I said MOST of the generation. Not all. That means some parts of the world, for now, are immune. Or have less dubstep lovers than the rest of the world.

Vaxon wrote:And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.

So what you're saying is, you're writing music? Oh you special little snowflake you.

Blasveck wrote:

Vaxon wrote:
Quality schmality. No one cares. Once dubstep takes over, everyone will be like "Who?" when you ask them about... KISS, Metallica.
Those guys. By 2075 anyways.

Mozart begs to differ.

There isn't much effort put into creating Dubstep, As far as I can tell.

As someone who heavily plays instruments and writes his own music, this infuriates me.

Making good dub actually takes a lot of work. It's just like writing any other piece of music.

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:

Grenartia wrote:
This. Minus the $300 headphones bit.

Also, guys, TET has an IRC channel now, FYI (#TET).

Expensive portable headpphones > expensive bulky speaker system

I got these way back in the Bush years instead of a PSP, I have no regrets.

Implying I have a bulky speaker system. I just have $20 earbuds.

Vaxon wrote:

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Limp Bizket has fans to this day, your argument is invalid.

I'm saying less and less people listen to other genres as dubstep gains more and more fans.
And since this generation shall replace the old one when they all die off, since the majority of this generation loves dubstep.
The world will be all about dubstep by 2075, when I'm 70 and you're all dead. Or alive, just REALLY old.

You're only 8?

That certainly explains your attitude. But not your lack of appreciation for anything but dubstep.

The Corparation wrote:

Grenartia wrote:
I have a playlist with a sampling of some examples. Basically, almost anything from the mid-50s onward under Rock.

Examples? I'm curious.

At any rate here's a sampling of my listening from the last hour:
Rhapsody in Blue by Gershwin
Sound track from the Anime Planetes, Space Battleship Yamato and Giruls Und Panzer
Sound track from the games FTL and Artemis
Black Flag
Next up I think imma listen to some Red Army Choir.

Elvis, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, Aerosmith, The Steve Miller Band, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Guns n Roses, some Johnny Cash covers, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots (fyi, they were influenced by Black Flag), Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Foo Fighters, Bush, Alice Cooper, etc.

Vaxon, I am speaking directly to you now. Am I on your ignore list? Because if I am that's hilarious.

Vaxon wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Mozart begs to differ.

There isn't much effort put into creating Dubstep, As far as I can tell.

As someone who heavily plays instruments and writes his own music, this infuriates me.

Better find the nearest place to buy dubstep-music equipment.
And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.
And a bunch of other stuff. Take this from a person who's starting to make dubstep.

Fuck it to hell.

I mean shit, if Dubstep can be around as long as Beethoven and Mozart, it'll earn a hint of respect from me.

So far, I ain't seeing that happening. It's just another shit music trend, kinda like Grunge, except without skilled musicians.

Vaxon wrote:

Grenartia wrote:
No. Dubstep is shit.

Your opinion < Mass amount of this Generation's opinion.
Argument invalid.

Not many people of our gen like dubstep(Including me)

Vaxon wrote:

Blasveck wrote:
Mozart begs to differ.

There isn't much effort put into creating Dubstep, As far as I can tell.

As someone who heavily plays instruments and writes his own music, this infuriates me.

Better find the nearest place to buy dubstep-music equipment.
And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.
And a bunch of other stuff. Take this from a person who's starting to make dubstep.

It takes a ton of effort to get "Dubstep equipment" All you need to do is a quick search to find a torrent to aquire the software for it. Not hard at all. My friend has done it. Made some stuff other people liked (He didn't he made it as a joke, because he rightfully knows Dubstep is stupid).

God, this guy is just the cutest ^-^

Grenartia wrote:

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Expensive portable headpphones > expensive bulky speaker system

I got these way back in the Bush years instead of a PSP, I have no regrets.

Implying I have a bulky speaker system. I just have $20 earbuds.

Vaxon wrote:
I'm saying less and less people listen to other genres as dubstep gains more and more fans.
And since this generation shall replace the old one when they all die off, since the majority of this generation loves dubstep.
The world will be all about dubstep by 2075, when I'm 70 and you're all dead. Or alive, just REALLY old.

You're only 8?

That certainly explains your attitude. But not your lack of appreciation for anything but dubstep.

The Corparation wrote:Examples? I'm curious.

At any rate here's a sampling of my listening from the last hour:
Rhapsody in Blue by Gershwin
Sound track from the Anime Planetes, Space Battleship Yamato and Giruls Und Panzer
Sound track from the games FTL and Artemis
Black Flag
Next up I think imma listen to some Red Army Choir.

Elvis, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, Aerosmith, The Steve Miller Band, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Guns n Roses, some Johnny Cash covers, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots (fyi, they were influenced by Black Flag), Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, Foo Fighters, Bush, Alice Cooper, etc.

I estimated. I don't f-cking care about math over the weekend, let alone right now at this hour. Plus I'm sick.
I was born in 1999. So in 2075, I'll be well over 70.

New Maldorainia wrote:

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:I know you were joking, but that was still in poor taste.

Really? That is what his fans call themselves.

Don't get me started with Directioneers... >_>

DesAnges wrote:

Vaxon wrote:And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.

So what you're saying is, you're writing music? Oh you special little snowflake you.

Blasveck wrote:
Mozart begs to differ.

There isn't much effort put into creating Dubstep, As far as I can tell.

As someone who heavily plays instruments and writes his own music, this infuriates me.

Making good dub actually takes a lot of work. It's just like writing any other piece of music.

I wouldn't know.

Thanks for telling me.

Grenartia wrote:

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Expensive portable headpphones > expensive bulky speaker system

I got these way back in the Bush years instead of a PSP, I have no regrets.

Implying I have a bulky speaker system. I just have $20 earbuds.

I mean in general, it's a better investment for me since I can have portable kickass sound with anti-human deafening technology to boot.

The Corparation wrote:

Vaxon wrote:
Better find the nearest place to buy dubstep-music equipment.
And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.
And a bunch of other stuff. Take this from a person who's starting to make dubstep.

It takes a ton of effort to get "Dubstep equipment" All you need to do is a quick search to find a torrent to aquire the software for it. Not hard at all. My friend has done it. Made some stuff other people liked (He didn't he made it as a joke, because he rightfully knows Dubstep is stupid).

Software users are "makeshift dubsteppers", as most people call them. Legitimate dubstep artists use a bunch of different equipment among other things.
So, yeah.

New haven america wrote:

New Maldorainia wrote:
Really? That is what his fans call themselves.

Don't get me started with Directioneers... >_>

People like that always make me think they are in a cult.

Vaxon wrote:

The Corparation wrote:Most of the people of this generation are dubstep artists and Radio DJs? Gonna have to tell my freidn who is an actual radio DJ that everyone wants his internship position. And better tell my little brother to get with the program and join all of the kids at his school that are producing dubstep. Not to mention that all of the kids going into music shows how my brother's HS Band classes have never been bigger or gotten more funding. (HINT:They haven't, they gotten smaller and seen less funding) All of what you're saying shows that you are entirely ignorant of music, musical artists, and the record industry.

I said MOST of the generation. Not all. That means some parts of the world, for now, are immune. Or have less dubstep lovers than the rest of the world.

Please explain to me how you have reached the conclusion that 51% of your generation are going into the music industry as either Artists or DJs? Because that isn't the case and has never been the case. Liking terrible music !- making that music or being a radio DJ.

DesAnges wrote:

Vaxon wrote:And it takes lots of effort. You have to find the perfect beats, decide if there will be lyrics, what said lyrics are.

So what you're saying is, you're writing music? Oh you special little snowflake you.

Blasveck wrote:
Mozart begs to differ.

There isn't much effort put into creating Dubstep, As far as I can tell.

As someone who heavily plays instruments and writes his own music, this infuriates me.

Making good dub actually takes a lot of work. It's just like writing any other piece of music.

Oh haha. I was wondering when Mr. Sarcasm was going to get here.

Blasveck wrote:

DesAnges wrote:So what you're saying is, you're writing music? Oh you special little snowflake you.


Making good dub actually takes a lot of work. It's just like writing any other piece of music.

I wouldn't know.

Thanks for telling me.

I don't write the stuff myself but I've got friends and acquaintances who do. They put a lot of effort into it to make it sound even halfway decent. And I mean decent by actual standards, not Vaxon's bedroom 'live set' standards.

Arcturus Novus wrote:God, this guy is just the cutest ^-^

I know, right? It's like, "d'aww, he thinks he's people."

Vaxon wrote:

The Corparation wrote:It takes a ton of effort to get "Dubstep equipment" All you need to do is a quick search to find a torrent to aquire the software for it. Not hard at all. My friend has done it. Made some stuff other people liked (He didn't he made it as a joke, because he rightfully knows Dubstep is stupid).

Software users are "makeshift dubsteppers", as most people call them. Legitimate dubstep artists use a bunch of different equipment among other things.
So, yeah.

So, yeah, it's still a horrible genre, if you can even call it that.

There's something missing for me when music is made entirely off a computer, without instruments.

There isn't any.....I can't exactly describe it.