National Freedom Coalition [NSG SENATE]

[The Nihilistic view]

Now looking back, the position of Deputy Prime Minister is currently not an official post and has only existed law with the Second Amendment to the Republican Executive Act which of course is no longer in force.

"1. The Deputy Prime Minister shall be appointed by the Prime Minister and may perform the duties of the Prime Minister in case of resignation or a physical inability to complete duties on the part of the Prime Minister."

- Provisional Republican Executive Act

That really is a illogical misleading mess of a bill. Handing out powers to positions before it even establishes them.

[The Nihilistic view]

I would not do that as there are still plenty of reform senators without a post, I think it would be better to give it to one of them.

Very well.
Perhaps the DPM could also chair the State COuncil alongside the Vice-President?

I suspect you would need a bill for that.

[Celritannia]

Very well.
Perhaps the DPM could also chair the State COuncil alongside the Vice-President?

I suspect you would need a bill for that.

Nick Clegg was appointed Lord President of Her Majesty's Privy Council of the United Kingdom, no piece of legislation was needed for that appointment.

[Kouralia]

I suspect you would need a bill for that.

Nick Clegg was appointed Lord President of Her Majesty's Privy Council of the United Kingdom, no piece of legislation was needed for that appointment.

:Monarchy:
:Glory:
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[Ainin]

"1. The Deputy Prime Minister shall be appointed by the Prime Minister and may perform the duties of the Prime Minister in case of resignation or a physical inability to complete duties on the part of the Prime Minister."

- Provisional Republican Executive Act

That really is a illogical misleading mess of a bill. Handing out powers to positions before it even establishes them.

That's the exact same text as SAREA.

[The Nihilistic view]

I suspect you would need a bill for that.

Nick Clegg was appointed Lord President of Her Majesty's Privy Council of the United Kingdom, no piece of legislation was needed for that appointment.

That's because there is no bill that creates the privy council along stringent lines. We have a bill that creates the council of state. There are body's around the privy council that are established in an act such as the judicial committee but the main privy council has none. So there is a difference in that ours is codified as to who may sit on it or chair it and the numbers and the Queens is not.

[The Nihilistic view]

That really is a illogical misleading mess of a bill. Handing out powers to positions before it even establishes them.

That's the exact same text as SAREA.

No, the order that the text is in the bill. When you put it all together the establishment of positions would have made more sense to be before the establishment of powers.

[Celritannia]

Nick Clegg was appointed Lord President of Her Majesty's Privy Council of the United Kingdom, no piece of legislation was needed for that appointment.

That's because there is no bill that creates the privy council along stringent lines. We have a bill that creates the council of state. There are body's around the privy council that are established in an act such as the judicial committee but the main privy council has none. So there is a difference in that ours is codified as to who may sit on it or chair it and the numbers and the Queens is not.

Do we honestly need a piece of legislation to place the DPM in the State Council? The President of the Russian Federation is allowed to appoint other members of the Russian State Council at his will.

Considering the DPM holds limited power in Government, surely he should be appointed to the State Council at the President discretion without the need of a piece of legislation.

[Capital Transportation Commission]

That's the exact same text as SAREA.

No, the order that the text is in the bill. When you put it all together the establishment of positions would have made more sense to be before the establishment of powers.

If you mean the thing about Deputy Majority Leader in FAREA, that's also the same order as how the real REA looked like at the time of its repeal.

[The Nihilistic view]

That's because there is no bill that creates the privy council along stringent lines. We have a bill that creates the council of state. There are body's around the privy council that are established in an act such as the judicial committee but the main privy council has none. So there is a difference in that ours is codified as to who may sit on it or chair it and the numbers and the Queens is not.

Do we honestly need a piece of legislation to place the DPM in the State Council? The President of the Russian Federation is allowed to appoint other members of the Russian State Council at his will.

Considering the DPM holds limited power in Government, surely he should be appointed to the State Council at the President discretion without the need of a piece of legislation.

Now your changing what your saying.

You started by saying about chairing. Now your just talking about being on it. The Two are different things, the DPM is already mandated to be a member. Just not the chair.

[Celritannia]

Do we honestly need a piece of legislation to place the DPM in the State Council? The President of the Russian Federation is allowed to appoint other members of the Russian State Council at his will.

Considering the DPM holds limited power in Government, surely he should be appointed to the State Council at the President discretion without the need of a piece of legislation.

Now your changing what your saying.

You started by saying about chairing. Now your just talking about being on it. The Two are different things, the DPM is already mandated to be a member. Just not the chair.

I said Chair alongside the Vice-President. But surely, to give the DPM more responsibility, he should be the Deputy Chair of the Council as the Deputy of the Cabinet. Similar to how the Vice President is the Chair as deputy of the Presidential Executive.

Is a piece of legislation necessary for the DPM to deputy chair the State Council?

[Angleter]

I suspect you would need a bill for that.

Nick Clegg was appointed Lord President of Her Majesty's Privy Council of the United Kingdom, no piece of legislation was needed for that appointment.

Well, no, but for reasons best known to other people, all our ministries are established by statute.

[The Nihilistic view]

Now your changing what your saying.

You started by saying about chairing. Now your just talking about being on it. The Two are different things, the DPM is already mandated to be a member. Just not the chair.

I said Chair alongside the Vice-President. But surely, to give the DPM more responsibility, he should be the Deputy Chair of the Council as the Deputy of the Cabinet. Similar to how the Vice President is the Chair as deputy of the Presidential Executive.

Is a piece of legislation necessary for the DPM to deputy chair the State Council?

The Vice President chairs his presidents Council. Now if the PM had a council that would be logical, but it's more logical for the PM to deputy chair as they are the head of the government. Why does the DPM need more responsibility than the PM? surly that makes the PM less important than his deputy. You should not have a deputy chairing over his boss when it come to advising the president.

Of course it would, as we have set it up through legislation one has to alter it through legislation. If it was set up informally then it would be up to the president but it's not so it isn't.

[Corenea]

Wait, did Beta made the new Council of State thread?

[Dangelia]

Wait, did Beta made the new Council of State thread?

No.

[Celritannia]

When will we have a full Cabinet?

[The Nihilistic view]

When will we have a full Cabinet?

Ask LP. they still need to have one filled.

[Beta Test]

Wait, did Beta made the new Council of State thread?

No I have not. I'll do it later.

[Celritannia]

When will we have a full Cabinet?

Ask LP. they still need to have one filled.

An I thought the CMP was slow at choosing a PM candidate XD

[The Liberated Territories]

When will we have a full Cabinet?

Ask LP. they still need to have one filled.

I hereby resolve this by declaring myself as Grand Pooba of the LabOr ministry. My goal for my term would be to replace labor money with free weed to the poor. Also to change the spelling to Labor cuz my characture is an Americanophile. Any complaints will be discarded.

[Belmaria]

Ask LP. they still need to have one filled.

I hereby resolve this by declaring myself as Grand Pooba of the LabOr ministry. My goal for my term would be to replace labor money with free weed to the poor. Also to change the spelling to Labor cuz my characture is an Americanophile. Any complaints will be discarded.

Great. So we now have all the ministries we need. Now we have a cabinet.

[The Nihilistic view]

Fair Taxation Act

Category: Business and Finance | Urgency: Paramount | Author: Lord Johnson (TNV)| Sponsors:

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Due to the regressive nature of Value Added Tax (VAT) and that the products listed below make up a large part of yearly household expenditure, Value Added Tax on these products represents a severe social ill. The benefit to to ordinary hard working families of removing this 10% tax could be as much as £400 annually. Hard pressed Small businesses, the lifeblood of any nation also stand to gain. Therefore this bill mandates that the following products be re-classified as Essential good's as opposed to their current status as secondary goods in the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal.

Article 1-1

The following goods and services listed in Article 1-2 are to be re-classified as Essential goods and amends the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal to repeal the following from said act; all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving from the Secondary Goods and Services clause.

Article 1-2

The following goods and services are to be classified as essential goods and services and VAT exempt;

• Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)
• Butane
• Petrol - all forms, also known as Gasoline
• Jet fuel
• Kerosene
• Fuel oil
• Diesel fuel
• Methane
• Electricity
• Ethane
• Propane
• Pentane
• Cooking oil's
• Batteries - any electrochemical cell that stores chemical energy and when used converts the stored energy into electrical energy. This includes both Primary and Secondary forms.
• Petroleum
• Natural Gas
• Shale Gas
• Town Gas

In the bill is going to be various types of fuel, gas and electric. But what I am post here is to ask whether this bill can gain official presidential and government support as opposed to the usual private members bills we usually see in the senate. Are most people supportive of this?

It's not quite finished yet but I hope you all see this as how the NFC government can take the lead on helping hard pressed families in the current economic situation and bring down the cost of living effectively, immediately for everyone and helping those on low incomes most.

[Belmaria]

Fair Taxation Act

Category: Business and Finance | Urgency: Paramount | Author: Lord Johnson (TNV)| Sponsors:

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Due to the regressive nature of Value Added Tax (VAT) and that the products listed below make up a large part of yearly household expenditure, Value Added Tax on these products represents a severe social ill. The benefit to to ordinary hard working families of removing this 10% tax could be as much as £400 annually. Therefore this bill mandates that the following products be re-classified as Essential good's as opposed to their current status as secondary goods in the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal.

Article 1-1

The following goods and services listed in Article 1-2 are to be re-classified as Essential goods and amends the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal to repeal the following from said act; all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving from the Secondary Goods and Services clause.

Article 1-2

The following goods and services are to be classified as essential goods and services and VAT exempt;

• Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)
• Butane
• Petrol - all forms, also known as Gasoline
• Jet fuel
• Kerosene
• Fuel oil
• Diesel fuel
• Natural Gas.
• Electricity

In the bill is going to be various types of fuel, gas and electric. But what I am post here is to ask whether this bill can gain official presidential and government support as opposed to the usual private members bills we usually see in the senate. Are most people supportive of this?

It's not quite finished yet but I hope you all see this as how the NFC government can take the lead on helping hard pressed families in the current economic situation and bring down the cost of living effectively, immediately for everyone and helping those on low incomes most.

This bill would help lower the heating/electricity costs for our schools so as Minister of Education I give it my full support. Add me as a sponsor.

[The Liberated Territories]

I am no economist, but even from my ignorant viewpoint it looks good. Sponsored.

Edit: I don't know why people need jet fuel, however.

[Corenea]

Fair Taxation Act

Category: Business and Finance | Urgency: Paramount | Author: Lord Johnson (TNV)| Sponsors:

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Due to the regressive nature of Value Added Tax (VAT) and that the products listed below make up a large part of yearly household expenditure, Value Added Tax on these products represents a severe social ill. The benefit to to ordinary hard working families of removing this 10% tax could be as much as £400 annually. Therefore this bill mandates that the following products be re-classified as Essential good's as opposed to their current status as secondary goods in the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal.

Article 1-1

The following goods and services listed in Article 1-2 are to be re-classified as Essential goods and amends the 2013 Aurentine Budget Proposal to repeal the following from said act; all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving from the Secondary Goods and Services clause.

Article 1-2

The following goods and services are to be classified as essential goods and services and VAT exempt;

• Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)
• Butane
• Petrol - all forms, also known as Gasoline
• Jet fuel
• Kerosene
• Fuel oil
• Diesel fuel
• Methane
• Electricity
• Ethane
• Propane
• Pentane
• Cooking oil's

In the bill is going to be various types of fuel, gas and electric. But what I am post here is to ask whether this bill can gain official presidential and government support as opposed to the usual private members bills we usually see in the senate. Are most people supportive of this?

It's not quite finished yet but I hope you all see this as how the NFC government can take the lead on helping hard pressed families in the current economic situation and bring down the cost of living effectively, immediately for everyone and helping those on low incomes most.

I'll sponser