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If we were to reboot the Senate as a Baltic nation, what name should the NDP have?

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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:18 am

Battlion wrote:I. In the following, "family" is defined as a two people who have one or more child of which they are fully responsible.


"Two people who have one or more child" That is still 2 parents...

If it was "two people including one or more child" then I could understand, but in addition why do we need to define family in legislation?



I don't know, maybe he is trying to promote family life over single parenthood. There are a growing number of women who are single but choose to have an IVF baby.
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Postby Battlion » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:23 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Battlion wrote:I. In the following, "family" is defined as a two people who have one or more child of which they are fully responsible.


"Two people who have one or more child" That is still 2 parents...

If it was "two people including one or more child" then I could understand, but in addition why do we need to define family in legislation?



I don't know, maybe he is trying to promote family life over single parenthood. There are a growing number of women who are single but choose to have an IVF baby.


There really is a distinct difference between being a parent and being in a family, under this bill a single woman who adopted a child would not be able to say she was in a family as...

    (a) She didn't give birth to the child
    (b) She is only one person
    (c) The Child's biological parents will still be classed as the family, despite either them not wanting to raise the child or the child being removed by social services

This bill is ignorant, this bill is 1913 and not 2013 and even more so why can't we just define "family" as something like "A fundamental social group in society typically consisting of one or two parents and their children." OR let's just not define family.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:23 am

CTALNH wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Being honest here I don't even know what a free spirited family is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_relationship


Ah, Maybe it should be taken out and replaced with the child's legal guardian? That would cover both biological parents, foster cares, adoption parent's and other family members should the biological parent's be unable to continue raising the child for any reason?

EDIT: Then I can support it, I admit it was kind of bugging me.
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Postby CTALNH » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:44 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:


Ah, Maybe it should be taken out and replaced with the child's legal guardian? That would cover both biological parents, foster cares, adoption parent's and other family members should the biological parent's be unable to continue raising the child for any reason?

EDIT: Then I can support it, I admit it was kind of bugging me.

A good compromise I think it is.
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Postby Divair » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:34 am

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Postby Next Washington » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:03 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Battlion wrote:Why is a family defined as 2 parents and one child... what about single parent families?


It doesn't. It says one or more child.


I can see where the bad grammar confused you though.


ok, corrected it, thanks
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Postby Next Washington » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:22 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:


Ah, Maybe it should be taken out and replaced with the child's legal guardian? That would cover both biological parents, foster cares, adoption parent's and other family members should the biological parent's be unable to continue raising the child for any reason?

EDIT: Then I can support it, I admit it was kind of bugging me.


ok, i'm gonna change this:
In the following, "family" is defined as a two people who have one or more child of which they are fully responsible. That includes married couples with one or more child(ren) as well as registered partnerships with one or more child(ren). The law does not divide between a child as a result of sexual interaction between these two people and between an adopted child.
"Parents" is defined as the two people, regardless of their sex, who are registered as the persons reponsible for the child(ren).

to this:
In the following, "family" is defined as a minumum of two people who have one or more child(ren) of which they are fully responsible.
"Parents" is defined as the people, regardless of their sex, who are registered legal guardians of the child(ren).


also, i will change this:
IV. Single families, meaning one of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death must receive the following treatment:

to this:
IV. Single families, meaning one or more of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death resulting in only one person remaining as the child(ren)'s legal guardian must receive the following treatment:



new law text:

Family Incentives Act



Foreword
Every modern civilization relies on enough young people who support the older ones, directly by caring about them, or indirectly, by taxes. But nowadays we see that the age pyramid changes dramatically: The old people are getting more and more, while there are areas where people have an average child number at or below 1. That means, this one child has to (partially) pay for three people in the future (parents + itself). Now, this quote is about 1/1, meaning one tax-paying person indirectly cares for another one (a retired person, student, child, ...).
In the short term this quote must be stopped from raising, in the long term even lowered. Therefore the Aurentina government shall provide special incentives, directly and indirectly, for families. Thereby the number of children will rise and the quote will lower.




I. In the following, "family" is defined as a minumum of two people who have one or more child(ren) of which they are fully responsible.
"Parents" is defined as the people, regardless of their sex, who are registered legal guardians of the child(ren).

II. Families shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A direct money transfer from the government to the parents each month. This payment shall be 100 NSG$(our currency?) per child between 0 and 18 years per month. If the child is between 18 and 24 years old, this payment shall be 50 NSG$ per child and per month.
b. This amount of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. Both parents must receive the offer of 5% more free days from their employers.
d. Direct incentives end when the child reaches the age of 25 years.

III. Families shall be granted the following indirect incentives:
a. One of the parents shall be allowed to lower his fiscal relevant income by 500 NGS$ per child and per year.
b. This reduction may only happen if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. This reduction may only happen until the child reaches the age of 25 years.

IV. IV. Single families, meaning one or more of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death resulting in only one person remaining as the child(ren)'s legal guardian must receive the following treatment:
a. The incentives mentioned in II.a. and II.c. must be doubled. The age limits stay the same.
b. The reduction mentioned in III.a. must be doubled. The age limit mentioned in III.c. must remain the same.
c. II.b. and III.b. also apply for single families.
d. II.d. also applies for single families.




Epilogue
This law will successfully increase birth rates as families and those who want to found a family are supported by the government. The government grants parents the possibility of incentives for both raising their children easier and actively influencing their own future as they, when they are retired, will have an easier life due to increased workforce.


Child Protection Act



Foreword
Children in Aurentina are already granted their rights by the (International Law Act). Also the children's rights for education were settled by the Public Education Act. But there is currently no control of the government concerning the adherence of this law. Therefore Aurentina shall develop a Child and Youth Protection Agency. This agency shall actively control the children's living standards and also have the authority to punish parents who infringe the upper mentioned laws.


I. In the following, "child" is defined as a person with an age between 0 and 10 years. "Youth" and "youngster" refers to persons between 10 and 18 years. Also, the Child and Youth Protection Agency is referred to as "CAYPA".

II. This law is valid for children and youngsters.

III. The goverment must found the CAYPA.
a. This agency must be contactable by every child and youngster. Information how to contact is shall be visible in schools and public buildings.
b. This agency must be contacted by persons whose profession is dedicated to the well-being of children and youngsters when they think parents infrige the Public Education Act or the International Law Act. This include all public personnel as well as doctors and psychiatrists.

IV. Parents who actively act against the previous mentioned laws must receive punishment settled by a court.
a. Parents who for the first time, according to the court, neglect their parental duties, shall receive special treatment and observation by the CAYPA.
b. Parents who receive three punishments from the court, not regarding whether the reasons behind are related to children and youngsters or not, will be forced to hand over all their children to the CAYPA.
c. Parents who violently abuse one or more child or youngster shall, in addition to the loss of their children to the CAYPA, receive extra punishment in the form of imprisonment.
d. Parents who sexually abuse one or more child or youngster shall, in addition to the loss of their children to the CAYPA, receive the highest punishment setable by the court.

V. Children and youngsters who have been taken away from their family by the CAYPA shall receive special treatment.
a. Those children and youngsters shall receive special psychological treatment.
b. Those children and youngsters shall be handed over to a foster family specially chosen by the CAYPA.
c. Those foster families shall be granted the rights mentioned in the Family Incentives Act.


Epilogue
The well-being of children and youngster, as they are seen as less powerful than adults, must be granted in everyy civilized society. Aurentina must care about its next generation.
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Postby Lost heros » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:38 am

NW is the family incentive act supposed to provide for needy families or is it supposed to provide incentives for people to start families?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:47 am

Next Washington wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ah, Maybe it should be taken out and replaced with the child's legal guardian? That would cover both biological parents, foster cares, adoption parent's and other family members should the biological parent's be unable to continue raising the child for any reason?

EDIT: Then I can support it, I admit it was kind of bugging me.


ok, i'm gonna change this:
In the following, "family" is defined as a two people who have one or more child of which they are fully responsible. That includes married couples with one or more child(ren) as well as registered partnerships with one or more child(ren). The law does not divide between a child as a result of sexual interaction between these two people and between an adopted child.
"Parents" is defined as the two people, regardless of their sex, who are registered as the persons reponsible for the child(ren).

to this:
In the following, "family" is defined as a minumum of two people who have one or more child(ren) of which they are fully responsible.
"Parents" is defined as the people, regardless of their sex, who are registered legal guardians of the child(ren).


also, i will change this:
IV. Single families, meaning one of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death must receive the following treatment:

to this:
IV. Single families, meaning one or more of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death resulting in only one person remaining as the child(ren)'s legal guardian must receive the following treatment:



new law text:

Family Incentives Act



Foreword
Every modern civilization relies on enough young people who support the older ones, directly by caring about them, or indirectly, by taxes. But nowadays we see that the age pyramid changes dramatically: The old people are getting more and more, while there are areas where people have an average child number at or below 1. That means, this one child has to (partially) pay for three people in the future (parents + itself). Now, this quote is about 1/1, meaning one tax-paying person indirectly cares for another one (a retired person, student, child, ...).
In the short term this quote must be stopped from raising, in the long term even lowered. Therefore the Aurentina government shall provide special incentives, directly and indirectly, for families. Thereby the number of children will rise and the quote will lower.




I. In the following, "family" is defined as a minumum of two people who have one or more child(ren) of which they are fully responsible.
"Parents" is defined as the people, regardless of their sex, who are registered legal guardians of the child(ren).

II. Families shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A direct money transfer from the government to the parents each month. This payment shall be 100 NSG$(our currency?) per child between 0 and 18 years per month. If the child is between 18 and 24 years old, this payment shall be 50 NSG$ per child and per month.
b. This amount of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. Both parents must receive the offer of 5% more free days from their employers.
d. Direct incentives end when the child reaches the age of 25 years.

III. Families shall be granted the following indirect incentives:
a. One of the parents shall be allowed to lower his fiscal relevant income by 500 NGS$ per child and per year.
b. This reduction may only happen if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. This reduction may only happen until the child reaches the age of 25 years.

IV. IV. Single families, meaning one or more of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death resulting in only one person remaining as the child(ren)'s legal guardian must receive the following treatment:
a. The incentives mentioned in II.a. and II.c. must be doubled. The age limits stay the same.
b. The reduction mentioned in III.a. must be doubled. The age limit mentioned in III.c. must remain the same.
c. II.b. and III.b. also apply for single families.
d. II.d. also applies for single families.




Epilogue
This law will successfully increase birth rates as families and those who want to found a family are supported by the government. The government grants parents the possibility of incentives for both raising their children easier and actively influencing their own future as they, when they are retired, will have an easier life due to increased workforce.


Child Protection Act



Foreword
Children in Aurentina are already granted their rights by the (International Law Act). Also the children's rights for education were settled by the Public Education Act. But there is currently no control of the government concerning the adherence of this law. Therefore Aurentina shall develop a Child and Youth Protection Agency. This agency shall actively control the children's living standards and also have the authority to punish parents who infringe the upper mentioned laws.


I. In the following, "child" is defined as a person with an age between 0 and 10 years. "Youth" and "youngster" refers to persons between 10 and 18 years. Also, the Child and Youth Protection Agency is referred to as "CAYPA".

II. This law is valid for children and youngsters.

III. The goverment must found the CAYPA.
a. This agency must be contactable by every child and youngster. Information how to contact is shall be visible in schools and public buildings.
b. This agency must be contacted by persons whose profession is dedicated to the well-being of children and youngsters when they think parents infrige the Public Education Act or the International Law Act. This include all public personnel as well as doctors and psychiatrists.

IV. Parents who actively act against the previous mentioned laws must receive punishment settled by a court.
a. Parents who for the first time, according to the court, neglect their parental duties, shall receive special treatment and observation by the CAYPA.
b. Parents who receive three punishments from the court, not regarding whether the reasons behind are related to children and youngsters or not, will be forced to hand over all their children to the CAYPA.
c. Parents who violently abuse one or more child or youngster shall, in addition to the loss of their children to the CAYPA, receive extra punishment in the form of imprisonment.
d. Parents who sexually abuse one or more child or youngster shall, in addition to the loss of their children to the CAYPA, receive the highest punishment setable by the court.

V. Children and youngsters who have been taken away from their family by the CAYPA shall receive special treatment.
a. Those children and youngsters shall receive special psychological treatment.
b. Those children and youngsters shall be handed over to a foster family specially chosen by the CAYPA.
c. Those foster families shall be granted the rights mentioned in the Family Incentives Act.


Epilogue
The well-being of children and youngster, as they are seen as less powerful than adults, must be granted in everyy civilized society. Aurentina must care about its next generation.


Looks good. You may have my sponsorship for the Family Incentives Act now.
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Postby Next Washington » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:04 am

Lost heros wrote:NW is the family incentive act supposed to provide for needy families or is it supposed to provide incentives for people to start families?


to start families
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Postby Lost heros » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:11 am

Next Washington wrote:
Lost heros wrote:NW is the family incentive act supposed to provide for needy families or is it supposed to provide incentives for people to start families?


to start families

Then why are you providing extra incentives to start single parent families?
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Postby Battlion » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:33 am

Lost heros wrote:
Next Washington wrote:
to start families

Then why are you providing extra incentives to start single parent families?


Because it excludes people who adopt and live on their own, but to be frank I'm extremely reluctant for the Senate to be able to define what is and isn't a family and I feel the NDP needs to lean more on encouraging all different types of family instead of the traditional nuclear family that is rapidly shrinking and that isn't necessarily a bad thing either...

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Postby Oneracon » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:46 am

Next Washington wrote:
Lost heros wrote:NW is the family incentive act supposed to provide for needy families or is it supposed to provide incentives for people to start families?


to start families


As Battlion said, we shouldn't be discriminating against family structures (of any kind) by offering monetary incentives to have children and form a nuclear family.
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Postby Lamaredia » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:34 am

I'll sponsor the Family Incentives Act. I'm not sure why you removed the edited version in the first place when asking about sponsors, as you already had the clause about two or more parents several pages back.



Family Incentives Act



Foreword
Every modern civilization relies on enough young people who support the older ones, directly by caring about them, or indirectly, by taxes. But nowadays we see that the age pyramid changes dramatically: The old people are getting more and more, while there are areas where people have an average child number at or below 1. That means, this one child has to (partially) pay for three people in the future (parents + itself). Now, this quote is about 1/1, meaning one tax-paying person indirectly cares for another one (a retired person, student, child, ...).
In the short term this quote must be stopped from raising, in the long term even lowered. Therefore the Aurentina government shall provide special incentives, directly and indirectly, for families. Thereby the number of children will rise and the quote will lower.




I. In the following, "family" is defined as a minimum of two people who have one or more child of which they are fully responsible. That includes married couples with one or more child(ren) as well as registered partnerships with one or more child(ren). The law does not divide between a child as a result of sexual interaction between these two people and between an adopted child.
"Parents" is defined as the two people, regardless of their sex, who are registered as the persons reponsible for the child(ren).

II. Families shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A direct money transfer from the government to the parents each month. This payment shall be 100 NSG$(our currency?) per child between 0 and 18 years per month. If the child is between 18 and 24 years old, this payment shall be 50 NSG$ per child and per month.
b. This amount of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. All parents must receive the offer of 5% more free days from their employers.
d. Direct incentives end when the child reaches the age of 25 years.

III. Families shall be granted the following indirect incentives:
a. One of the parents shall be allowed to lower his fiscal relevant income by 500 NGS$ per child and per year.
b. This reduction may only happen if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. This reduction may only happen until the child reaches the age of 25 years.

IV. Single families, meaning one of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death so only one part is left must receive the following treatment:
a. The incentives mentioned in II.a. and II.c. must be doubled. The age limits stay the same.
b. The reduction mentioned in III.a. must be doubled. The age limit mentioned in III.c. must remain the same.
c. II.b. and III.b. also apply for single families.
d. II.d. also applies for single families.




Epilogue
This law will successfully increase birth rates as families and those who want to found a family are supported by the government. The government grants parents the possibility of incentives for both raising their children easier and actively influencing their own future as they, when they are retired, will have an easier life due to increased workforce.
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Postby Next Washington » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:50 am

Lamaredia wrote:I'll sponsor the Family Incentives Act. I'm not sure why you removed the edited version in the first place when asking about sponsors, as you already had the clause about two or more parents several pages back.



Family Incentives Act



Foreword
Every modern civilization relies on enough young people who support the older ones, directly by caring about them, or indirectly, by taxes. But nowadays we see that the age pyramid changes dramatically: The old people are getting more and more, while there are areas where people have an average child number at or below 1. That means, this one child has to (partially) pay for three people in the future (parents + itself). Now, this quote is about 1/1, meaning one tax-paying person indirectly cares for another one (a retired person, student, child, ...).
In the short term this quote must be stopped from raising, in the long term even lowered. Therefore the Aurentina government shall provide special incentives, directly and indirectly, for families. Thereby the number of children will rise and the quote will lower.




I. In the following, "family" is defined as a minimum of two people who have one or more child of which they are fully responsible. That includes married couples with one or more child(ren) as well as registered partnerships with one or more child(ren). The law does not divide between a child as a result of sexual interaction between these two people and between an adopted child.
"Parents" is defined as the two people, regardless of their sex, who are registered as the persons reponsible for the child(ren).

II. Families shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A direct money transfer from the government to the parents each month. This payment shall be 100 NSG$(our currency?) per child between 0 and 18 years per month. If the child is between 18 and 24 years old, this payment shall be 50 NSG$ per child and per month.
b. This amount of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. All parents must receive the offer of 5% more free days from their employers.
d. Direct incentives end when the child reaches the age of 25 years.

III. Families shall be granted the following indirect incentives:
a. One of the parents shall be allowed to lower his fiscal relevant income by 500 NGS$ per child and per year.
b. This reduction may only happen if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. This reduction may only happen until the child reaches the age of 25 years.

IV. Single families, meaning one of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death so only one part is left must receive the following treatment:
a. The incentives mentioned in II.a. and II.c. must be doubled. The age limits stay the same.
b. The reduction mentioned in III.a. must be doubled. The age limit mentioned in III.c. must remain the same.
c. II.b. and III.b. also apply for single families.
d. II.d. also applies for single families.




Epilogue
This law will successfully increase birth rates as families and those who want to found a family are supported by the government. The government grants parents the possibility of incentives for both raising their children easier and actively influencing their own future as they, when they are retired, will have an easier life due to increased workforce.


hhhmmm... i think i mixed something up between the posts, that might be the reason

thanks for your support

what about the child protection act? as the two laws would fit together...

and yes, for single parents too, as i wrote if the partner(s) leave the relationship by divorcimg or dying we should not let them fall but emcourage them to continue
also for singles who adopt child(ren), or ivf
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Postby Lamaredia » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:59 am

Hmm... might as well sponsor the child one as well.
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Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
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Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


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Postby Next Washington » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:40 am

Lamaredia wrote:Hmm... might as well sponsor the child one as well.


any remarks for the CPA? or is it fine?
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:53 am

Geilinor wrote:
Battlion wrote: whether some like it or not the NDP isn't as left wing as you all like to think it is centre-left not fully left

Who called the NDP left-wing? Nobody. Also, we are not intended to be a centrist party, we can't tamper with that. If we become centrist, what separates us from the NCP or SLP? This was the merger of two center-left parties, not centrist ones.


Centre-left also falls into the Left-wing category. Left wing=Centre Left and/or Far-Left.
Although I completely agree with your second premise. :)
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Postby Ainin » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:54 pm

Thoughts?

First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act
Author: Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Very Low | SIMBEDS: Domestic Development
Sponsors:

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Noting that the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk, as Aurentina's public broadcaster, was prohibited from carrying any form of commercial advertising by the Broadcasting Act,

Acknowledging that this clause was flawed and that advertising revenues are essential to keeping television networks profitable and financially viable,

Wishing to reduce the strain imposed by the activities of the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk on the Budget of the Aurentine Government,

The following act, to be referenced to as the First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act of 2013, is passed into law:

The clause of Section IV of the Broadcasting Act reading "ATN shall not carry any advertising, save for Public Service Announcements" is struck out and rendered null and void.
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Postby Bering » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:05 pm

Ainin wrote:Thoughts?

First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act
Author: Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Very Low | SIMBEDS: Domestic Development
Sponsors:

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Noting that the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk, as Aurentina's public broadcaster, was prohibited from carrying any form of commercial advertising by the Broadcasting Act,

Acknowledging that this clause was flawed and that advertising revenues are essential to keeping television networks profitable and financially viable,

Wishing to reduce the strain imposed by the activities of the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk on the Budget of the Aurentine Government,

The following act, to be referenced to as the First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act of 2013, is passed into law:

The clause of Section IV of the Broadcasting Act reading "ATN shall not carry any advertising, save for Public Service Announcements" is struck out and rendered null and void.

Seems good, I will sponsor it

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Postby Battlion » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:16 pm

Protection of Workers Act
Urgency: Moderate | Author: Battlion [NDP] | Category: Order
Co-sponsors: Gothmogs [PDP], NEO Rome Republic [NDP], Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP], Finium [NCP], Bering [NDP]


Preamble
An Act of the Senate of Aurentina to make it an offence to assault certain persons in the course of
or by reason of their employment; and for connected purposes.


Section I – Assault of Workers
1. A person, being a member of the public, who assaults a worker ––
    (a) in the course of that worker’s employment, or
    (b) by reason of that worker’s employment, commits an offence.
2. No offence is committed —
    (a) under subsection (1)(a) unless the person who assaults knows or ought to know that the worker is acting in the course of the worker’s employment,
    (b) under subsection (1)(b) unless the assault is motivated, in whole or in part, by malice towards the worker by reason of the worker’s employment.
3. In this section—
    “worker” means a person whose employment involves dealing with members of the public, to any extent, but only if that employment involves —
    (a) being physically present in the same place and at the same time as one or
    more members of the public, and
    (b) (either or both)—
      (i) interacting with those members of the public for the purposes of the employment, or
      (ii) providing a service to either particular members of the public or the
      public generally,
    “employment” means any paid or unpaid work whether under a contract, apprenticeship, or otherwise.
4. Evidence from a single source is sufficient evidence to establish for the purpose of subsection (1) whether a person is a worker.

Section II – Penalties
1. A person guilty of an offence under this Act is liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a period not exceeding 12 months or to a fine of which a Judge may determine upon sentencing.


Sponsors please x
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:16 pm

Ainin wrote:Thoughts?

First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act
Author: Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Very Low | SIMBEDS: Domestic Development
Sponsors:

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Noting that the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk, as Aurentina's public broadcaster, was prohibited from carrying any form of commercial advertising by the Broadcasting Act,

Acknowledging that this clause was flawed and that advertising revenues are essential to keeping television networks profitable and financially viable,

Wishing to reduce the strain imposed by the activities of the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk on the Budget of the Aurentine Government,

The following act, to be referenced to as the First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act of 2013, is passed into law:

The clause of Section IV of the Broadcasting Act reading "ATN shall not carry any advertising, save for Public Service Announcements" is struck out and rendered null and void.

It has my support, and my sponsorship.
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Postby Bering » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:17 pm

Battlion wrote:
Protection of Workers Act
Urgency: Moderate | Author: Battlion [NDP] | Category: Order
Co-sponsors: Gothmogs [PDP], NEO Rome Republic [NDP], Macedonian Grand Empire [RefP]


Preamble
An Act of the Senate of Aurentina to make it an offence to assault certain persons in the course of
or by reason of their employment; and for connected purposes.


Section I – Assault of Workers
1. A person, being a member of the public, who assaults a worker ––
    (a) in the course of that worker’s employment, or
    (b) by reason of that worker’s employment, commits an offence.
2. No offence is committed —
    (a) under subsection (1)(a) unless the person who assaults knows or ought to know that the worker is acting in the course of the worker’s employment,
    (b) under subsection (1)(b) unless the assault is motivated, in whole or in part, by malice towards the worker by reason of the worker’s employment.
3. In this section—
    “worker” means a person whose employment involves dealing with members of the public, to any extent, but only if that employment involves —
    (a) being physically present in the same place and at the same time as one or
    more members of the public, and
    (b) (either or both)—
      (i) interacting with those members of the public for the purposes of the employment, or
      (ii) providing a service to either particular members of the public or the
      public generally,
    “employment” means any paid or unpaid work whether under a contract, apprenticeship, or otherwise.
4. Evidence from a single source is sufficient evidence to establish for the purpose of subsection (1) whether a person is a worker.

Section II – Penalties
1. A person guilty of an offence under this Act is liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a period not exceeding 12 months or to a fine of which a Judge may determine upon sentencing.


Sponsors please x

I'll sponsor

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Postby Lamaredia » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:35 am

Ainin wrote:Thoughts?

First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act
Author: Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Very Low | SIMBEDS: Domestic Development
Sponsors:

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Noting that the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk, as Aurentina's public broadcaster, was prohibited from carrying any form of commercial advertising by the Broadcasting Act,

Acknowledging that this clause was flawed and that advertising revenues are essential to keeping television networks profitable and financially viable,

Wishing to reduce the strain imposed by the activities of the Aurentisë Televisënetwörk on the Budget of the Aurentine Government,

The following act, to be referenced to as the First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act of 2013, is passed into law:

The clause of Section IV of the Broadcasting Act reading "ATN shall not carry any advertising, save for Public Service Announcements" is struck out and rendered null and void.


Public networks can, and should, function without advertising. As I said in the private TG, the public broadcaster SVT (Sveriges Television) in Sweden runs completely ad free on their two channels.
Currently representing the SLP/R, Leading to a brighter future, in the NS Parliament RP as Representative Jonas Trägårdh Apelstierna.

Currently a co-admin of the NS Parliament RP

Political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

Result


Political test = Social Democrat
Cosmopolitan – 15%
Communistic - 44%
Anarchistic - 28%
Visionary - 50%
Secular - 53%
Pacifist - 12%
Anthropocentric– 16%

Result


Socio-Economic Ideology = Social Democracy
Social Democracy = 100%
Democratic Socialism = 83%
Anarchism 58%


Result
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Postby Next Washington » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:56 am

so... who wants to sponsor these two? (or one of them?)

Family Incentives Act



Foreword
Every modern civilization relies on enough young people who support the older ones, directly by caring about them, or indirectly, by taxes. But nowadays we see that the age pyramid changes dramatically: The old people are getting more and more, while there are areas where people have an average child number at or below 1. That means, this one child has to (partially) pay for three people in the future (parents + itself). Now, this quote is about 1/1, meaning one tax-paying person indirectly cares for another one (a retired person, student, child, ...).
In the short term this quote must be stopped from raising, in the long term even lowered. Therefore the Aurentina government shall provide special incentives, directly and indirectly, for families. Thereby the number of children will rise and the quote will lower.




I. In the following, "family" is defined as a minumum of two people who have one or more child(ren) of which they are fully responsible.
"Parents" is defined as the people, regardless of their sex, who are registered legal guardians of the child(ren).

II. Families shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A direct money transfer from the government to the parents each month. This payment shall be 100 NSG$(our currency?) per child between 0 and 18 years per month. If the child is between 18 and 24 years old, this payment shall be 50 NSG$ per child and per month.
b. This amount of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. Both parents must receive the offer of 5% more free days from their employers.
d. Direct incentives end when the child reaches the age of 25 years.

III. Families shall be granted the following indirect incentives:
a. One of the parents shall be allowed to lower his fiscal relevant income by 500 NGS$ per child and per year.
b. This reduction may only happen if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. This reduction may only happen until the child reaches the age of 25 years.

IV. IV. Single families, meaning one or more of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death resulting in only one person remaining as the child(ren)'s legal guardian must receive the following treatment:
a. The incentives mentioned in II.a. and II.c. must be doubled. The age limits stay the same.
b. The reduction mentioned in III.a. must be doubled. The age limit mentioned in III.c. must remain the same.
c. II.b. and III.b. also apply for single families.
d. II.d. also applies for single families.




Epilogue
This law will successfully increase birth rates as families and those who want to found a family are supported by the government. The government grants parents the possibility of incentives for both raising their children easier and actively influencing their own future as they, when they are retired, will have an easier life due to increased workforce.


Child Protection Act



Foreword
Children in Aurentina are already granted their rights by the (International Law Act). Also the children's rights for education were settled by the Public Education Act. But there is currently no control of the government concerning the adherence of this law. Therefore Aurentina shall develop a Child and Youth Protection Agency. This agency shall actively control the children's living standards and also have the authority to punish parents who infringe the upper mentioned laws.


I. In the following, "child" is defined as a person with an age between 0 and 10 years. "Youth" and "youngster" refers to persons between 10 and 18 years. Also, the Child and Youth Protection Agency is referred to as "CAYPA".

II. This law is valid for children and youngsters.

III. The goverment must found the CAYPA.
a. This agency must be contactable by every child and youngster. Information how to contact is shall be visible in schools and public buildings.
b. This agency must be contacted by persons whose profession is dedicated to the well-being of children and youngsters when they think parents infrige the Public Education Act or the International Law Act. This include all public personnel as well as doctors and psychiatrists.

IV. Parents who actively act against the previous mentioned laws must receive punishment settled by a court.
a. Parents who for the first time, according to the court, neglect their parental duties, shall receive special treatment and observation by the CAYPA.
b. Parents who receive three punishments from the court, not regarding whether the reasons behind are related to children and youngsters or not, will be forced to hand over all their children to the CAYPA.
c. Parents who violently abuse one or more child or youngster shall, in addition to the loss of their children to the CAYPA, receive extra punishment in the form of imprisonment.
d. Parents who sexually abuse one or more child or youngster shall, in addition to the loss of their children to the CAYPA, receive the highest punishment setable by the court.

V. Children and youngsters who have been taken away from their family by the CAYPA shall receive special treatment.
a. Those children and youngsters shall receive special psychological treatment.
b. Those children and youngsters shall be handed over to a foster family specially chosen by the CAYPA.
c. Those foster families shall be granted the rights mentioned in the Family Incentives Act.


Epilogue
The well-being of children and youngster, as they are seen as less powerful than adults, must be granted in everyy civilized society. Aurentina must care about its next generation.
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