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[Neo Rome Republic]

as i observed this discussion for some time i decided to do some maths concerning the progress coalition...

... so here#s my result:

NDP+NCP+RefP+SLP=47%

new democratic party+reform party+libertarian party of aurentina+national centre party=50,99%.... +slp (10 membes when official party)=53,80%...

Well in that case, the current idea is too small for a majority.
While adding the Libertarians would give us a ''slight majority'', I refuse to support any coalition with Libertarians, if that is the idea I will oppose it.
The current Coalition is fine, we have a clear majority, over 60%, no coalition is perfect Brit, there will always be some factions you don't agree with, as much as you'd like to.

[Bering]

How will leaving the Progressive Coalition benefit the party?

It will mean that we can remain in a powerful coalition that has the most members.

We loose a third of the Senate if we leave the Coalition

We will have a very good chance of getting into governemnt.

We have a government now, that we dominate AND with the size of the coaltion we will not have to worry about losing that

We will alienate extremists.

Still not sure how they hurt us seeing as they mostly toe the line and if they get too crazy we can put them down, they know they will not be able to get into the government without this coalition and understand that it is better than getting the Right-Wingers in charge

We willnot have to compromise our beliefs like some suggest.

How can you be sure? Will the parties involved agree to our current Party Platform?

(Edit: and a list of possible coalition members)

NDP
NCP
RefP
SLP

Which as stated before fails to give us the majority and none of the jump out as too similar to us
On the other hand the Market Socialists and Red-Greens are fairly close allies ideologically speaking

[Bering]

as i observed this discussion for some time i decided to do some maths concerning the progress coalition...

... so here#s my result:

NDP+NCP+RefP+SLP=47%

new democratic party+reform party+libertarian party of aurentina+national centre party=50,99%.... +slp (10 membes when official party)=53,80%...

Well in that case, the current idea is too small for a majority.
While adding the Libertarians would give us a ''slight majority'', I refuse to support any coalition with Libertarians, if that is the idea I will oppose it.
The current Coalition is fine, we have a clear majority, over 60%, no coalition is perfect Brit, there will always be some factions you don't agree with, as much as you'd like to.

Most people in the party are against adding in the Libertarians, so the current model will fail

[Next Washington]

We loose a third of the Senate if we leave the Coalition

why we? ok, our party is the largest, but it sounds like we control everything...

[Fulflood]

Well in that case, the current idea is too small for a majority.
While adding the Libertarians would give us a ''slight majority'', I refuse to support any coalition with Libertarians, if that is the idea I will oppose it.
The current Coalition is fine, we have a clear majority, over 60%, no coalition is perfect Brit, there will always be some factions you don't agree with, as much as you'd like to.

Most people in the party are against adding in the Libertarians, so the current model will fail

I'd be just about OK with it, I just think there are clearly better options such as the Red-Greens. It's a shame there's no good centre-right party anymore.

[Britanno]

Out of interest, if, say, the MSP were also added in, would you support it?

By the way, all those percentages are out of date. The senate has 711 members.

[Bering]

We loose a third of the Senate if we leave the Coalition

why we? ok, our party is the largest, but it sounds like we control everything...

I meant we loose a third of the senate as possible allies

[Britanno]

I'd be just about OK with it, I just think there are clearly better options such as the Red-Greens. It's a shame there's no good centre-right party anymore.

Indeed, but there are few active ones left.

[Bering]

Most people in the party are against adding in the Libertarians, so the current model will fail

I'd be just about OK with it, I just think there are clearly better options such as the Red-Greens. It's a shame there's no good centre-right party anymore.

Honestly IF the Far-Left does get really crazy we could probably convince the Market Socialists and Red-Greens to form a Coalition with us and from there we could find a few more parties to gain the needed majority

[Next Washington]

Out of interest, if, say, the MSP were also added in, would you support it?

By the way, all those percentages are out of date. The senate has 711 members.

711??? i only counted 355, so the half...

who has more? as this could mean our current coalition could be below 50%...

(i didn't count the independent senators)

[New Zepuha]

At this point in time I'm not sure leaving the ProgCoa is the best idea.

[Bering]

At this point in time I'm not sure leaving the ProgCoa is the best idea.

I think everyone here except Britanno (and maybe a few others) agree

[Britanno]

Out of interest, if, say, the MSP were also added in, would you support it?

By the way, all those percentages are out of date. The senate has 711 members.

711??? i only counted 355, so the half...

who has more? as this could mean our current coalition could be below 50%...

(i didn't count the independent senators)

I went through all the applications threads (with a bit if help from Fulflood) and there were 711 senators.

[Britanno]

At this point in time I'm not sure leaving the ProgCoa is the best idea.

I think everyone here except Britanno (and maybe a few others) agree

Indeed, only 3 currently support our withdrawal.

[Bering]

711??? i only counted 355, so the half...

who has more? as this could mean our current coalition could be below 50%...

(i didn't count the independent senators)

I went through all the applications threads (with a bit if help from Fulflood) and there were 711 senators.

Not all of them are still Senators
You realize that right?

[Bering]

I think everyone here except Britanno (and maybe a few others) agree

Indeed, only 3 currently support our withdrawal.

I don't mean to be pushy but could you respond to my response to your reasons?
it is one post from the top of this page

[Britanno]

Not all of them are still Senators
You realize that right?

Some are inactive yes, but inactivity doesn't mean you are no longer a senator.

[Next Washington]

At this point in time I'm not sure leaving the ProgCoa is the best idea.

i, personally, am not for really leaving it... but re-thinking it...

[Next Washington]

Not all of them are still Senators
You realize that right?

Some are inactive yes, but inactivity doesn't mean you are no longer a senator.

in this party are more than 100 senators, since im here there are about 10 active...

[Bering]

Some are inactive yes, but inactivity doesn't mean you are no longer a senator.

in this party are more than 100 senators, since im here there are about 10 active...

Yeah, honestly counting people who are no longer active and no longer listed as Senators is a bad idea

[Divair]

What makes you so sure that the centre-right doesn't want to work with you?

So the CMP, Reform, and the libertarians would go for this platform in its entirety?

I'll take that as a "no".

[Bering]

So the CMP, Reform, and the libertarians would go for this platform in its entirety?

I'll take that as a "no".

That's probably a safe bet

[New Democratic Party of Aurentina]

Last vote counted. The council has ruled in favour of the ProgCo unanimously.

[Bering]

Last vote counted. The council has ruled in favour of the ProgCo unanimously.

One for each of you

[Britanno]

We have a government now, that we dominate AND with the size of the coaltion we will not have to worry about losing that.

What is to stop a MSP-NDP-NCP-SLP-RefP coalition from winning an election?

Still not sure how they hurt us seeing as they mostly toe the line and if they get too crazy we can put them down, they know they will not be able to get into the government without this coalition and understand that it is better than getting the Right-Wingers in charge.

You are missing the point, without a centrist coalition, extremists will get into government no matter what. If the right wings, fascists get in, if the left wins, communists get in. I want to stop either from getting into government, because I think keeping moderates in and extremists out is important.

How can you be sure? Will the parties involved agree to our current Party Platform?

As said before, the idea would be to have an economic platform where neither side would have to sacrifice or compromise their beliefs and would be solely based around the things they agree on.

Which as stated before fails to give us the majority and none of the jump out as too similar to us. On the other hand the Market Socialists and Red-Greens are fairly close allies ideologically speaking.

I could deal with the MSP, but some of the RGs are way took left wing.