New Democratic Party [NSG Senate | HQ]

[People Who Say Ni]

I don't support everything Gillard/Rudd did. Their immigration policies, early stance on gay marriage and excessive expenditure were horrible. The problem is that I find the CURRENT ALP to be better than the CURRENT LNP.
Supporting a party for historical reasons is stupid, because the Menzies LNP had a social and economic position similar to today's ALP, both of which have drifted to the right.

[Beta Test]

I don't support everything Gillard/Rudd did. Their immigration policies, early stance on gay marriage and excessive expenditure were horrible. The problem is that I find the CURRENT ALP to be better than the CURRENT LNP.

Well yeah that's your politics. Even though I named my reason for supporting the LNP, I still prefer the LNP to the ALP.

[People Who Say Ni]

The pathetic behavior of those in the party and the sheer stupidity of many of their other ideas.

I'm not quite sure what you're referencing here. If you're talking about the Rudd/Gillard backstabbing, it is no different to that of the Turnbull/Abbott divide - not to mention, there is talk of Julie Bishop challenging Abbott as leader of the LNP. There are idiots allthroughout the LNP: the minister Against the Environment who didn't believe in climate change until he became minister, the minister for Ruining the Internet who refuses to listen to the millions of Australians who prefer a FTTP NBN, the Minister For Pharmaceutical Income (health) who openly insults "lefties" and the aboriginals or the minister for Nautical Discrimination who refuses to even discuss his policies. Not to mention the disgusting behavior of senator Cory Bernadi, the Cardboard-Rudd incident or the fact that Abbott was the first opposition leader of the century to get expelled from the parliament (and the countless times he tried to run from the parliament in order to nullify a vote). Also, I'm genuinely interested in hearing some of these stupid ideas.

[Kamchastkia]

It's like this land is run by labour or liberal, but don't get it twisted they're the same as the criminals

@ the two bickering australians. :3

[Ikania]

Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?

Yeah. But the Canadian NDP sucks

[Geilinor]

Turnbull never had the chance to lead the country. The Menzies-Holt days echoed the current ALP political compass position and Fraser said himself that Abbott is the most dangerous politician in Aussie history.

Bob Hawke and Paul Keating flooded our economy, created universal healthcare and are widely regarded as the best government the country ever had. Julia Gillard issued reforms in almost every sector, from health, education, infrastructure and the internet. The "leaders" of our country now seem to be more interested in wrecking the place than anything else. Abbott's entire election campaign hinged on stopping boat people( a ghastly policy which doesn't even work), replacing the carbon tax with the direct action plan which PAYS polluters with our taxes instead, trying to save money on a better broadband policy which is not only 40 times slower than the ALPs, but, when adding up maintenance costs, is MORE expensive as well. Kevin Rudd's government saved us from the GFC, having us as the only country which was effected not to have had a significant environmental impact. If Labor (who can't spell) just sat around and did nothing for the entire term, their economic skills (with the exception of the mining tax blowout) should have gotten them a re-election on that basis ALONE. Remember that Abbott is himself a boat person with an openly gay sister, and he won't even fight for basic marriage equality. I believe in the shinier of two turds, Beta, and if you take the time to read this little article, I'm sure you'll agree that there is no excrement duller than the Liberal Party Of Australia (who can spell, but don't know how to use a dictionary.)

I never said Abbott did I?

If you support the Liberals on a national level, that's support for Abbott as PM too.

[Beta Test]

I never said Abbott did I?

If you support the Liberals on a national level, that's support for Abbott as PM too.

1) Your quote is broken.
2) Support for the party does not equate to support for the leader.

[The Scientific States]

Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?

Yeah. But the Canadian NDP sucks

The Federal NDP is good, some of the provincial NDP's are bad.

The NDP under Layton was great. I'm not a big fan of Mulclair.

[Beta Test]

The pathetic behavior of those in the party and the sheer stupidity of many of their other ideas.

I'm not quite sure what you're referencing here. If you're talking about the Rudd/Gillard backstabbing, it is no different to that of the Turnbull/Abbott divide - not to mention, there is talk of Julie Bishop challenging Abbott as leader of the LNP. There are idiots allthroughout the LNP: the minister Against the Environment who didn't believe in climate change until he became minister, the minister for Ruining the Internet who refuses to listen to the millions of Australians who prefer a FTTP NBN, the Minister For Pharmaceutical Income (health) who openly insults "lefties" and the aboriginals or the minister for Nautical Discrimination who refuses to even discuss his policies. Not to mention the disgusting behavior of senator Cory Bernadi, the Cardboard-Rudd incident or the fact that Abbott was the first opposition leader of the century to get expelled from the parliament (and the countless times he tried to run from the parliament in order to nullify a vote). Also, I'm genuinely interested in hearing some of these stupid ideas.

It's not fair on Malcolm to compare his dumping to Rudd's, at least he graciously accepted the situation and moved on. Julie Bishop as Liberal leader? I doubt that will happen, I don't think she has the desire. The Environment Minister is like Abbott in that he is unfairly hated upon. We don't need this NBN, as I've said before and actually I agree the Health Minister seems a bit dumb.

Cory Bernardi does not represent the Liberal Party at all and I wouldn't be surprised if he jumped ship to Family First shortly.

[Ainin]

Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?

Yeah. But the Canadian NDP sucks

u wot m8

[People Who Say Ni]

We don't need this NBN

Sure about that?

If anything, Aurentina needs one as well.

[Beta Test]

Ever heard of spoilers?

EDIT: Thank you.

As I go back to my original point, there's no outstanding need for one.

[People Who Say Ni]

Ever heard of spoilers?

EDIT: Thank you.

As I go back to my original point, there's no outstanding need for one.

But the LNP will install one anyway, which will be more expensive, up to 40 times slower, provide no revenue and wont help business as much at the alps

[Beta Test]

Ever heard of spoilers?

EDIT: Thank you.

As I go back to my original point, there's no outstanding need for one.

But the LNP will install one anyway, which will be more expensive, up to 40 times slower, provide no revenue and wont help business as much at the alps

As far as I know, it won't be more expensive.

[Geilinor]

As I go back to my original point, there's no outstanding need for one.

It will bring jobs and benefits in the future. http://www.zdnet.com/labor-wins-industry-speaks-1339305869/ That's the point of investments. Money now, returns later.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?

Yeah. But the Canadian NDP sucks

The BC NDP certainly do.

[Beta Test]

As I go back to my original point, there's no outstanding need for one.

It will bring jobs and benefits in the future. http://www.zdnet.com/labor-wins-industry-speaks-1339305869/ That's the point of investments. Money now, returns later.

I guess. But still, it costs so bleeding much.

[People Who Say Ni]

It will bring jobs and benefits in the future. http://www.zdnet.com/labor-wins-industry-speaks-1339305869/ That's the point of investments. Money now, returns later.

I guess. But still, it costs so bleeding much.

NBNco is a government organisation which intends to make a profit off the NBN. Have a look at Sortius' article here about FTTP vs FTTN. There are a loot of good articles on the internet about the pros and cons of the NBN.

Also, the NBN will stop Australia's internet speeds being lower on average than most 3rd world countries.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Yeah. But the Canadian NDP sucks

The Federal NDP is good, some of the provincial NDP's are bad.

The NDP under Layton was great. I'm not a big fan of Mulclair.

False, all of the NDP is bad.

[Ainin]

The Federal NDP is good, some of the provincial NDP's are bad.

The NDP under Layton was great. I'm not a big fan of Mulclair.

False, all of the NDP is bad.

>.> no u r

[The Nihilistic view]

We don't need this NBN

Sure about that?

If anything, Aurentina needs one as well.

Man do you ever stop going on about how the government should pay for you to get stupidly fast broadband? Last time I checked one does not need 400 mb broadband to survive. I have 20 mb/s here at uni and everything loads virtually instantly, I would not pay for 400 mb/s if I was a billionaire. It's just ridiculously excessive.

[New Bierstaat]

Sure about that?

If anything, Aurentina needs one as well.

Man do you ever stop going on about how the government should pay for you to get stupidly fast broadband? Last time I checked one does not need 400 mb broadband to survive. I have 20 mb/s here at uni and everything loads virtually instantly, I would not pay for 400 mb/s if I was a billionaire. It's just ridiculously excessive.

Haven't you been banned from this thread like 10 times?

[Ainin]

Metre Act

---

Author: Ainin [NDP] | Urgency: Low | SIMBEDS: Business and Finance
Sponsors: Maklohi Vai [NDP], Unicario [RG]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Declaring:

"Metre" (m) is a unit of length to be as long as defined by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, currently being the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.
"Kilogramme" (kg) is a unit of weight to be defined as the same as the weight as the International Prototype Kilogram, as determined by the International Bureau for Weights and Measures.
"Litre" (l) is a unit of volume to be defined as equal to 1/1000 cubic metre.

Ratifying the Metre Convention of 1875,

Hereby enacts the Metre Act.

[Maklohi Vai]

I'll sponsor.

[Unicario]

Metre Act

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Declaring:

"Metre" (m) is a unit of length to be as long as defined by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, currently being the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.
"Kilogramme" (kg) is a unit of weight to be defined as the same as the weight as the International Prototype Kilogram, as determined by the International Bureau for Weights and Measures.
"Litre" (l) is a unit of volume to be defined as equal to 1/1000 cubic metre.

Ratifying the Metre Convention of 1875,

Hereby enacts the Metre Act.

Sponsor.

((Even if I have to convert it. ))