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If we were to reboot the Senate as a Baltic nation, what name should the NDP have?

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Soviet Canuckistan
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:00 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Avinaa wrote:Yeah, what does the Ministry of Research do exactly....


Just watch what I do.

So pretty much nothing.
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America Libertaria
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Postby America Libertaria » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:54 am

I'd like to join the New Democrats, please.

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Avinaa
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Postby Avinaa » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:58 am

America Libertaria wrote:I'd like to join the New Democrats, please.

You may! Hello, and welcome! :D

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America Libertaria
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Postby America Libertaria » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:05 am

Avinaa wrote:
America Libertaria wrote:I'd like to join the New Democrats, please.

You may! Hello, and welcome! :D


Thanks! Also, do we have any laws in Aurentina which injects money into the economy when the GDP falls below a certain level? I I greatly believe that this would be necessary safety net to guarantee economic growth.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:49 am

America Libertaria wrote:
Avinaa wrote:You may! Hello, and welcome! :D


Thanks! Also, do we have any laws in Aurentina which injects money into the economy when the GDP falls below a certain level? I I greatly believe that this would be necessary safety net to guarantee economic growth.

No, we don't, because there's no automatic mechanism which varies our IC GDP.
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Great Franconia and Verana
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:02 pm

Hey all, i have been sitting as an independent for a couple months now, but would like to become more active in the Senate.
Looking at all the current parties, i feel that the New Democrats are the best aligned with my own views.
I would very much like to join the Party if possible.
Thanks!

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:07 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Hey all, i have been sitting as an independent for a couple months now, but would like to become more active in the Senate.
Looking at all the current parties, i feel that the New Democrats are the best aligned with my own views.
I would very much like to join the Party if possible.
Thanks!

Welcome to the party.
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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:08 pm

Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:14 pm

Corenea wrote:Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?

Yes, the New Democratic Party currently forms the Official Opposition in the House.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:Hey all, i have been sitting as an independent for a couple months now, but would like to become more active in the Senate.
Looking at all the current parties, i feel that the New Democrats are the best aligned with my own views.
I would very much like to join the Party if possible.
Thanks!

Welcome to the party.

Thank you
Time for a signature edit!
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:24 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
America Libertaria wrote:
Thanks! Also, do we have any laws in Aurentina which injects money into the economy when the GDP falls below a certain level? I I greatly believe that this would be necessary safety net to guarantee economic growth.

No, we don't, because there's no automatic mechanism which varies our IC GDP.


As Treasurer I will be producing figures for the last term withing the week in my report.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:28 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:No, we don't, because there's no automatic mechanism which varies our IC GDP.


As Treasurer I will be producing figures for the last term withing the week in my report.

Speaking of time for a signature edit, why does yours still say NLP in it?
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:32 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
As Treasurer I will be producing figures for the last term withing the week in my report.

Speaking of time for a signature edit, why does yours still say NLP in it?

He's nostalgic about that party.
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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:34 pm

Beta Test wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Speaking of time for a signature edit, why does yours still say NLP in it?

He's nostalgic about that party.

Maybe you should change the party name of ALM to Aurentine Liberal Party... (I used to be in the NLP but I felt that the NLP was too centrist for my taste which is why I moved to Reform)

just a thought, could be a suggestion
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:37 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:No, we don't, because there's no automatic mechanism which varies our IC GDP.


As Treasurer I will be producing figures for the last term withing the week in my report.

Great, thank you. I was talking about the admin approved national GDP figures, actually, but it's good to hear you're on top of that.

EDIT: Could this read as snotty? It's not meant that way, sorry.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:07 pm

Corenea wrote:
Beta Test wrote:He's nostalgic about that party.

Maybe you should change the party name of ALM to Aurentine Liberal Party... (I used to be in the NLP but I felt that the NLP was too centrist for my taste which is why I moved to Reform)

just a thought, could be a suggestion

Or we could rename it the Progressive Conservative Party...
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:09 pm

Corenea wrote:
Beta Test wrote:He's nostalgic about that party.

Maybe you should change the party name of ALM to Aurentine Liberal Party... (I used to be in the NLP but I felt that the NLP was too centrist for my taste which is why I moved to Reform)

just a thought, could be a suggestion

I have thought about that plenty, but then it would share an acronym with...

...Australian Labor Party. Ugghhhh.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:30 pm

Corenea wrote:Isn't the New Democratic Party a real party in Canada, competing against the Liberal Party and the Conservative Party?


Yup.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:32 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Corenea wrote:Maybe you should change the party name of ALM to Aurentine Liberal Party... (I used to be in the NLP but I felt that the NLP was too centrist for my taste which is why I moved to Reform)

just a thought, could be a suggestion

Or we could rename it the Progressive Conservative Party...


The OP of the ALM claims that all centrists are welcome. Calling it a "Progressive Conservative party" could make it seem less "moderate."
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:38 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Or we could rename it the Progressive Conservative Party...


The OP of the ALM claims that all centrists are welcome. Calling it a "Progressive Conservative party" could make it seem less "moderate."

Yes. Besides that, the ProgCons were a major party at one stage in the senate and I wouldn't feel right claiming heritage from them when the two are largely unrelated, despite ideological similarities.
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Postby People Who Say Ni » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:48 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Corenea wrote:Maybe you should change the party name of ALM to Aurentine Liberal Party... (I used to be in the NLP but I felt that the NLP was too centrist for my taste which is why I moved to Reform)

just a thought, could be a suggestion

I have thought about that plenty, but then it would share an acronym with...

...Australian Labor Party. Ugghhhh.


Hey, the ALP has produced much greater leaders than the LNP ever will
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:49 pm

People Who Say Ni wrote:
Beta Test wrote:I have thought about that plenty, but then it would share an acronym with...

...Australian Labor Party. Ugghhhh.


Hey, the ALP has produced much greater leaders than the LNP ever will

Not true. Liberals have produced Menzies, Holt, Fraser, Howard and Turnbull.
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Postby People Who Say Ni » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:00 pm

Beta Test wrote:
People Who Say Ni wrote:
Hey, the ALP has produced much greater leaders than the LNP ever will

Not true. Menzies, Holt, Fraser, Howard and Turnbull


Turnbull never had the chance to lead the country. The Menzies-Holt days echoed the current ALP political compass position and Fraser said himself that Abbott is the most dangerous politician in Aussie history. Howard, on the other hand, was good at keeping unemployment rates low, but not much else. Do you remember workchoices? Or any of countless Hawke-Keating era policies he repealed?

Bob Hawke and Paul Keating flooded our economy, created universal healthcare and are widely regarded as the best government the country ever had. Julia Gillard issued reforms in almost every sector, from health, education, infrastructure and the internet. The "leaders" of our country now seem to be more interested in wrecking the place than anything else. Abbott's entire election campaign hinged on stopping boat people( a ghastly policy which doesn't even work), replacing the carbon tax with the direct action plan which PAYS polluters with our taxes instead, trying to save money on a better broadband policy which is not only 40 times slower than the ALPs, but, when adding up maintenance costs, is MORE expensive as well. Kevin Rudd's government saved us from the GFC, having us as the only country which was effected not to have had a significant environmental impact. If Labor (who can't spell) just sat around and did nothing for the entire term, their economic skills (with the exception of the mining tax blowout) should have gotten them a re-election on that basis ALONE. Remember that Abbott is himself a boat person with an openly gay sister, and he won't even fight for basic marriage equality. I believe in the shinier of two turds, Beta, and if you take the time to read this little article, I'm sure you'll agree that there is no excrement duller than the Liberal Party Of Australia (who can spell, but don't know how to use a dictionary.)
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Postby Corenea » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:02 pm

Didn't the Liberal Party tried to raise the debt ceiling yet the Labour Party tries to prevent that from happening?
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Postby People Who Say Ni » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:05 pm

Corenea wrote:Didn't the Liberal Party tried to raise the debt ceiling yet the Labour Party tries to prevent that from happening?

It was more like this:
Media: "Have you fixed the debt crisis yet, Tony?"
Tony: "Oh yes."
Media: "What did you do?"
Tony: "We increased the debt."
Media: "You increased the debt?"

Also, the debt ceiling raise can be kinda attributed to the Greens.
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:08 pm

People Who Say Ni wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Not true. Menzies, Holt, Fraser, Howard and Turnbull


Turnbull never had the chance to lead the country. The Menzies-Holt days echoed the current ALP political compass position and Fraser said himself that Abbott is the most dangerous politician in Aussie history.

Bob Hawke and Paul Keating flooded our economy, created universal healthcare and are widely regarded as the best government the country ever had. Julia Gillard issued reforms in almost every sector, from health, education, infrastructure and the internet. The "leaders" of our country now seem to be more interested in wrecking the place than anything else. Abbott's entire election campaign hinged on stopping boat people( a ghastly policy which doesn't even work), replacing the carbon tax with the direct action plan which PAYS polluters with our taxes instead, trying to save money on a better broadband policy which is not only 40 times slower than the ALPs, but, when adding up maintenance costs, is MORE expensive as well. Kevin Rudd's government saved us from the GFC, having us as the only country which was effected not to have had a significant environmental impact. If Labor (who can't spell) just sat around and did nothing for the entire term, their economic skills (with the exception of the mining tax blowout) should have gotten them a re-election on that basis ALONE. Remember that Abbott is himself a boat person with an openly gay sister, and he won't even fight for basic marriage equality. I believe in the shinier of two turds, Beta, and if you take the time to read this little article, I'm sure you'll agree that there is no excrement duller than the Liberal Party Of Australia (who can spell, but don't know how to use a dictionary.)

:palm: :palm: :palm:
I never said Abbott did I? Your problem and the problem of millions of other Internet users is your obsessions with hating on Abbott, who I admit is not the best leader the party has had. Of all the Gillard and Rudd "achievements" you listed, they are completely overshadowed by the pathetic behavior of those in the party and the sheer stupidity of many of their other ideas. I support the Liberal Party for historical reasons and unlike most Labor Party supporters, like yourself, I don't accept every single thing my party does as being right.
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