New Democratic Party [NSG Senate | HQ]

[Geilinor]

Sorry for the inactivity, I was sick. Thank you to all who voted for me in the DPM election.

[Maklohi Vai]

I declare my intention to run for a ministerial position.

EDIT: I liked FPTP better than preferential voting.

What was wrong with that system again?

Because one person could run and win for multiple seats while some people get left out even though they ran.

[Ainin]

Because one person could run and win for multiple seats

Wouldn't it be simpler to just ban that?

[Maklohi Vai]

Because one person could run and win for multiple seats

Wouldn't it be simpler to just ban that?

I suppose, but that raises issues of people who are actually more preferred for a seat not getting one at all. Ex:

There are 3 seats available (1, 2, 3) and 5 candidates (A, B, C, D, E). The party likes candidate A the most, then candidate B, then candidate C, etc. A is happy with any of the seats, but likes seat 2 the most. B doesn't like seat 3 and suspects A will run for seat 2, so B runs for seat 1. C has to leave town/can only declare early on/doesn't like seat 3, and so doesn't run for 3, but rather seat 1. D is ok with seat 3, and so runs for that, as does E. This leaves us with:

seat 1 candidates: B, C
seat 2 candidates: A
seat 3 candidates: D, E

So even though the party likes C more than D or E, C won't get a spot while D or E will.

EDIT: There's probably also a CGP Grey video on this somewhere. I'm too lazy to go searching.

[Corenea]

Wouldn't it be simpler to just ban that?

I suppose, but that raises issues of people who are actually more preferred for a seat not getting one at all. Ex:

There are 3 seats available (1, 2, 3) and 5 candidates (A, B, C, D, E). The party likes candidate A the most, then candidate B, then candidate C, etc. A is happy with any of the seats, but likes seat 2 the most. B doesn't like seat 3 and suspects A will run for seat 2, so B runs for seat 1. C has to leave town/can only declare early on/doesn't like seat 3, and so doesn't run for 3, but rather seat 1. D is ok with seat 3, and so runs for that, as does E. This leaves us with:

seat 1 candidates: B, C
seat 2 candidates: A
seat 3 candidates: D, E

So even though the party likes C more than D or E, C won't get a spot while D or E will.

EDIT: There's probably also a CGP Grey video on this somewhere. I'm too lazy to go searching.

Hey! You watch CGP Grey videos too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo (First past the Post Problem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE (Alternate Voting Explained)

[The Nihilistic view]

Wouldn't it be simpler to just ban that?

I suppose, but that raises issues of people who are actually more preferred for a seat not getting one at all. Ex:

There are 3 seats available (1, 2, 3) and 5 candidates (A, B, C, D, E). The party likes candidate A the most, then candidate B, then candidate C, etc. A is happy with any of the seats, but likes seat 2 the most. B doesn't like seat 3 and suspects A will run for seat 2, so B runs for seat 1. C has to leave town/can only declare early on/doesn't like seat 3, and so doesn't run for 3, but rather seat 1. D is ok with seat 3, and so runs for that, as does E. This leaves us with:

seat 1 candidates: B, C
seat 2 candidates: A
seat 3 candidates: D, E

So even though the party likes C more than D or E, C won't get a spot while D or E will.

EDIT: There's probably also a CGP Grey video on this somewhere. I'm too lazy to go searching.

*Meanwhile the election draws ever closer*

[Kamchastkia]

I suppose, but that raises issues of people who are actually more preferred for a seat not getting one at all. Ex:

There are 3 seats available (1, 2, 3) and 5 candidates (A, B, C, D, E). The party likes candidate A the most, then candidate B, then candidate C, etc. A is happy with any of the seats, but likes seat 2 the most. B doesn't like seat 3 and suspects A will run for seat 2, so B runs for seat 1. C has to leave town/can only declare early on/doesn't like seat 3, and so doesn't run for 3, but rather seat 1. D is ok with seat 3, and so runs for that, as does E. This leaves us with:

seat 1 candidates: B, C
seat 2 candidates: A
seat 3 candidates: D, E

So even though the party likes C more than D or E, C won't get a spot while D or E will.

EDIT: There's probably also a CGP Grey video on this somewhere. I'm too lazy to go searching.

*Meanwhile the election draws ever closer*

We're only electing the President, this stuff doesn't even need to be done until after the elections.

[Bering]

I would like to announce my intention to run for a ministerial position if we use preferential and specifically for Finance if we use FPTP

[Maklohi Vai]

I suppose, but that raises issues of people who are actually more preferred for a seat not getting one at all. Ex:

There are 3 seats available (1, 2, 3) and 5 candidates (A, B, C, D, E). The party likes candidate A the most, then candidate B, then candidate C, etc. A is happy with any of the seats, but likes seat 2 the most. B doesn't like seat 3 and suspects A will run for seat 2, so B runs for seat 1. C has to leave town/can only declare early on/doesn't like seat 3, and so doesn't run for 3, but rather seat 1. D is ok with seat 3, and so runs for that, as does E. This leaves us with:

seat 1 candidates: B, C
seat 2 candidates: A
seat 3 candidates: D, E

So even though the party likes C more than D or E, C won't get a spot while D or E will.

EDIT: There's probably also a CGP Grey video on this somewhere. I'm too lazy to go searching.

Hey! You watch CGP Grey videos too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo (First past the Post Problem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE (Alternate Voting Explained)

Ah yes, those are the ones.

[Calimera II]

I just posted this in the coffee shop. Can anyone from the party offer some criticism?

Against!

Oh god. Why did you join the Senate?

[Ainin]

((This is an internal draft for now, so please don't comment yet unless you're a member of the NDP))

Thoughts?

Air Safety Regulations Act

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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Forenote
Section 4g of the Aerospace Safety Act is struck out and rendered null and void.

Definitions
Non-regulated aircraft is defined as aircraft that is not prohibited, controlled or restricted (see article titled "Aircraft Restrictions").
Portable electronic device is defined as a series of electrical circuits that involve active electrical components such as vacuum tubes, transistors, diodes and integrated circuits, and associated passive interconnection technologies. Examples include cellular phones, portable computers and handheld calculators with a weight inferior or equal to 15 kilogrammes.
Non-portable electronic device is defined as a series of electrical circuits that involve active electrical components such as vacuum tubes, transistors, diodes and integrated circuits, and associated passive interconnection technologies. Examples include cellular phones, portable computers and handheld calculators with a weight superior to 15 kilogrammes.
Transmitting function is defined as the process of sending and propagating an analogue or digital information signal over a physical point-to-point or point-to-multipoint transmission medium. Examples include WiFi (IEEE 802.11), Near Field Communications (ISO/IEC 18092) and Bluetooth (IEEE 802.15.1).
Airliner is defined as a fixed-wing aircraft as an intended for carrying multiple passengers or cargo in commercial service.
Takeoff is defined as the period of time between the aircraft starting to move on the ground of the aerodrome and the moment it levels off in the air.
Landing is defined as the period of time between the aircraft's airspeed and rate of descent are reduced in order to bring it to touchdown on the ground and the moment it enters the airport apron.
Boarding is defined as the period of time between all the non-absent passengers being seated onboard an airliner and takeoff.
Airport apron is defined as the area of an airport where aircraft are parked, unloaded or loaded, refuelled, or boarded.
Turbulence is defined as the turbulent movement of air masses causing shaking in an airliner for the sole purpose of this act.
Air traffic control is defined as the Civil Aviation Authority-licenced service provided by ground-based controllers who direct aircraft on the ground and through controlled airspace, and/or provide advisory services to aircraft in non-controlled airspace.
Checked luggage is defined as items of luggage stored on airliners in a fashion which makes it inaccessible to passengers onboard.
Hand luggage is defined as items of luggage stored on airliners in a fashion which makes it accessible to passengers onboard.
Airplane mode is defined as a state in which an electronic device emits no signals with the power to disrupt flight, with said powers being WiFi (IEEE 802.11), Near Field Communications (ISO/IEC 18092) and Bluetooth (IEEE 802.15.1), amongst others.

On Portable Electronic Devices

With Transmitting Function
The usage of portable electronic devices with transmitting functions is prohibited during takeoff, landing, and, if the commanding officer onboard the aircraft deems it necessary, at any other time at his or her discretion.
The usage of "airplane mode" during takeoff and landing is authorised, unless told otherwise by the airline or flight crew.
Airlines may implement stricter, but not laxer, regulations on this subject.
Airlines are mandated to clearly and loudly announce this regulation to all passengers onboard, whether through a live or prerecorded announcement. Failure to do so is Endangering Aerospace Safety, a contravention.

Without Transmitting Function
The usage of portable electronic devices without transmitting functions is prohibited during takeoff and landing at airports lacking air traffic control and, if the commanding officer onboard the aircraft deems it necessary, at any other time at his or her discretion.
Airlines may implement stricter, but not laxer, regulations on this subject.

Final Note
Non-portable electronic devices are prohibited onboard airliners, unless if it is in checked luggage.

On Seatbelts
The pilot and, if applicable, co-pilot, must wear CAA-approved seatbelts at all times while the aircraft is in motion.
All passengers and other staff must wear CAA-approved seatbelts during takeoff, landing and major turbulence (the latter to be determined by the pilot).
Failure to do either is Endangering Aerospace Safety, a contravention.

Prohibited Items
The following items are prohibited onboard all airliners for all individuals except on-duty Gendarmes, and possessing them onboard or attempting to smuggle them onboard is a felony.

• All items controlled by the Improved Firearms Safety and Licencing Act and the Firearms Licensing and Reasonable Restrictions Act.
• All explosive devices, including but not limited to TNT, Molotov cocktails, grenades, smoke bombs and firecrackers.
• All Class A, B and X drugs as per the Sale of Harmful Substances Act.
• Unauthorised distribution of top secret or strictly confidential files as classified under the Responsible Government Act.

The following items are prohibited onboard all airliners for all individuals except on-duty Gendarmes, and detected items will be confiscated and destroyed.

• Containers of liquids with a volume superior to, not including, 500mL (on domestic flights) and 100mL (on international flights)
• Class C drugs as per the Sale of Harmful Substances Act.
• Electroshock weapons (commonly known as "Tasers") and tools (such as concealed shock devices)
• Live animals, other than vaccinated household pets with a travel licence granted by the Ministry of the Environment, the Animal Protection Force or an Aurentine diplomatic mission.
• Raw meat, unless placed inside crates that cannot be opened by a regular person without recourse to using extreme force (hitting at high speeds, kicking, etc.) or damaging with an object (smashing with a blunt object, forcing open with a crowbar, etc.)
• Specimen of vegetation deemed "invasive" or "dangerous to flora" by the Minister of the Environment.
• Lighters and matches

The following items are prohibited onboard all airliners, except in checked-in luggage.

• Candles
• Tobacco
• Alcohol
• Pepper spray, or other similar products
• Hammers, baseball bats, hockey sticks, wrenches and other blunt objects (at the discretion of the on-duty customs agent)

Aircraft Restrictions

The Aurentine Airspace Control List

• Powered aircraft built prior to, not including, 1940 (all glider aircraft are exempt from this regulation)
• Powered aircraft designed prior to, not including, 1935 (all glider aircraft are exempt from this regulation)
• Aircraft lacking seatbelts for essential staff other than the pilot and/or co-pilot, such as the flight engineer on older aircraft
• Any aircraft capable of supercruising at a speed superior to Mach 1.3
• Decommissioned fighters, bombers and attack helicopters

The Aurentine Airspace Restricted List

• Aircraft built between 1940 and 1960 (single- or double- seater powered aircraft, along with all glider aircraft, are exempt from this regulation)
• Aircraft designed between 1935 and 1950 (single- or double- seater powered aircraft, along with all glider aircraft, are exempt from this regulation)
• Any aircraft lacking seatbelts for passenger and/or non-essential staff (such as air stewards)
• Any aircraft equipped with a functional weapons bay
• Any aircraft capable of supercruising

The Aurentine Airspace Prohibition List

• Any aircraft lacking a radio capable of transmitting and receiving communications from air traffic control
• Any aircraft equipped with a functional weapon
• Airborne early warning and control aircraft
• Any aircraft lacking a seatbelt for the pilot and/or, if applicable, the co-pilot
• Any aircraft equipped with one or more devices capable of controlling the electromagnetic spectrum (electronic warfare)

Exemptions
To be able to operate in Aurentine airspace, a restricted aircraft must register for a renewed-biyearly licence with the Civil Aviation Authority.
To be able to operate in Aurentine airspace, a controlled aircraft must register for a renewed-biyearly licence with the Civil Aviation Authority and notify the Civil Transport Incident Investigation Bureau a minimum of 2 hours prior to each takeoff.
Non-restricted aircraft are to be licenced yearly by the CAA.
Aircraft operated by the Commonwealth Armed Forces and Aurentine National Gendarmerie are exempt from the Aurentine Airspace Control, Restricted and Prohibited Lists.
Operating a prohibited aircraft without being a member of the aforementioned organisations on official duty is operating an unsafe aircraft - aggravated, a felony.
Operating a restricted or controlled aircraft without appropriate permissions is operating an unsafe aircraft, a delict.
Aircraft operated by any non-military service of the Government of Aurentina are exempt from the Aurentine Airspace Prohibition List. However, such aircraft will be considered part of the Blacklist and must be registered with the CAA and CTIIB (see above clause).

Fifth Amendment to the International Law Act
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth hereby ratifies:

• Annexes 1-19 of the Chicago Convention on International Civil Aviation

First Amendment to the Transport Safety Act
Event data recorders must record, as a minimum, the 30 minutes prior to a vehicle- or power-disabling crash. Failing to do so is a delict for the company or other person that owns the vehicle.

[The Nihilistic view]

Seems more like declaring war on heritage aircraft to me.

[Ainin]

Seems more like declaring war on heritage aircraft to me.

Read the first line of the post.

[The Nihilistic view]

Seems more like declaring war on heritage aircraft to me.

Read the first line of the post.

Has nothing to do with my impression.

[Kamchastkia]

((This is an internal draft for now, so please don't comment yet unless you're a member of the NDP))

[Kamchastkia]

((This is an internal draft for now, so please don't comment yet unless you're a member of the NDP))

Thoughts?

Air Safety Regulations Act

---

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

Forenote
Section 4g of the Aerospace Safety Act is struck out and rendered null and void.

Definitions
Portable electronic device is defined as a series of electrical circuits that involve active electrical components such as vacuum tubes, transistors, diodes and integrated circuits, and associated passive interconnection technologies. Examples include cellular phones, portable computers and handheld calculators with a weight inferior or equal to 15 kilogrammes.
Non-portable electronic device is defined as a series of electrical circuits that involve active electrical components such as vacuum tubes, transistors, diodes and integrated circuits, and associated passive interconnection technologies. Examples include cellular phones, portable computers and handheld calculators with a weight superior to 15 kilogrammes.
Transmitting function is defined as the process of sending and propagating an analogue or digital information signal over a physical point-to-point or point-to-multipoint transmission medium. Examples include WiFi (IEEE 802.11), Near Field Communications (ISO/IEC 18092) and Bluetooth (IEEE 802.15.1).
Airliner is defined as a fixed-wing aircraft as an intended for carrying multiple passengers or cargo in commercial service.
Takeoff is defined as the period of time between the aircraft starting to move on the ground of the aerodrome and the moment it levels off in the air.
Landing is defined as the period of time between the aircraft's airspeed and rate of descent are reduced in order to bring it to touchdown on the ground and the moment it enters the airport apron.
Boarding is defined as the period of time between all the non-absent passengers being seated onboard an airliner and takeoff.
Airport apron is defined as the area of an airport where aircraft are parked, unloaded or loaded, refuelled, or boarded.
Turbulence is defined as the turbulent movement of air masses causing shaking in an airliner for the sole purpose of this act.
Air traffic control is defined as the Civil Aviation Authority-licenced service provided by ground-based controllers who direct aircraft on the ground and through controlled airspace, and/or provide advisory services to aircraft in non-controlled airspace.
Checked luggage is defined as items of luggage stored on airliners in a fashion which makes it inaccessible to passengers onboard.
Hand luggage is defined as items of luggage stored on airliners in a fashion which makes it accessible to passengers onboard.

On Portable Electronic Devices

With Transmitting Function
The usage of portable electronic devices with transmitting functions is prohibited during takeoff, landing, and, if the commanding officer onboard the aircraft deems it necessary, at any other time at his or her discretion.
Airlines may implement stricter, but not laxer, regulations on this subject.
Airlines are mandated to clearly and loudly announce this regulation to all passengers onboard, whether through a live or prerecorded announcement. Failure to do so is Endangering Aerospace Safety, a contravention.

Without Transmitting Function

Final Note
Non-portable electronic devices are prohibited onboard aircraft, unless if it is in checked luggage

On Seatbelts

Aircraft Restrictions

The Aurentine Airspace Blacklist

• Powered aircraft built prior to, not including, 1940 (all glider aircraft are exempt from this regulation)
• Powered aircraft designed prior to, not including, 1935 (all glider aircraft are exempt from this regulation)
• Aircraft lacking seatbelts for essential staff other than the pilot and/or co-pilot, such as the flight engineer on older aircraft
• Any aircraft capable of supercruising at a speed superior to Mach 1.3
• Decommissioned fighters, bombers and attack helicopters

The Aurentine Airspace Restricted List

• Aircraft built between 1940 and 1960 (single- or double- seater powered aircraft, along with all glider aircraft, are exempt from this regulation)
• Aircraft designed between 1935 and 1950 (single- or double- seater powered aircraft, along with all glider aircraft, are exempt from this regulation)
• Any aircraft lacking seatbelts for passenger and/or non-essential staff (such as air stewards)
• Any aircraft equipped with a functional weapons bay
• Any aircraft capable of supercruising

The Aurentine Airspace Absolute Prohibition List

• Any aircraft lacking a radio capable of transmitting and receiving communications from air traffic control
• Any aircraft equipped with a functional weapon
• Airborne early warning and control aircraft
• Any aircraft lacking a seatbelt for the pilot and/or, if applicable, the co-pilot
• Any aircraft equipped with one or more devices capable of controlling the electromagnetic spectrum (electronic warfare)

Exemptions
To be able to operate in Aurentine airspace, a blacklisted aircraft must register for a renewed-biyearly licence with the Civil Aviation Authority and notify the Civil Transport Incident Investigation Bureau a minimum of 2 hours prior to each takeoff.
To be able to operate in Aurentine airspace, a restricted aircraft must register for a renewed-biyearly licence with the Civil Aviation Authority.
The licence should only be granted for a) aircraft intended to serve in demonstrations, such as airshows or b) unique utility aircraft that have no similar modern replacements.
Non-restricted aircraft are to be licenced yearly by the CAA.
Aircraft operated by the Commonwealth Armed Forces and Aurentine National Gendarmerie are exempt from the Aurentine Airspace Blacklist, Restricted List and Absolute Prohibited List.
Aircraft operated by any non-military service of the Government of Aurentina are exempt from the Aurentine Airspace Absolute Prohibition List. However, such aircraft will be considered part of the Blacklist and must be registered with the CAA and CTIIB (see above clause).

Fourth Amendment to the International Law Act
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth hereby ratifies:

• Annexes 1-19 of the Chicago Convention on International Civil Aviation

Isn't this undermining the authority of the air investigation service (whatever it's called), and its authority to set up guidelines on how aircraft are to legally operate inside Aurentina?

[Ainin]

Isn't this undermining the authority of the air investigation service (whatever it's called), and its authority to set up guidelines on how aircraft are to legally operate inside Aurentina?

*psst*
Come to IRC.

[Maklohi Vai]

Only 4 people have declared their intentions to run for ministries so far. What we'll do is have a 48 hour election between those 4 candidates, and during that timespan other people can declare that they want to run for positions as well. The 4 candidates will get the top four picks, and then the other 4 picks will go to the next batch.

For voting please list the candidates in order of preference, 1-4. Any vote that is not in this format will not be counted. The candidates are Maklohi Vai, Ainin, Bering, and Kamchastkia. Candidates may vote.

I vote as such:
1. Maklohi Vai
2. Ainin
3. Bering
4. Kamchastkia

[Ainin]

1. Ainin
2. Maklohi Vai
3. Kamchastkia
4. Bering

I had to use a coin flip simulator for 3 and 4. >.>

[Neo Rome Republic]

Is it too late to declare candidacy for a ministry?

[Maklohi Vai]

Is it too late to declare candidacy for a ministry?

Nope, go right ahead! You just won't be able to enter the first pot because you're late.

[People Who Say Ni]

1. Maklohi Vai
2. Ainin
3. Bering
4. Kamchastkia

[Kamchastkia]

1. Ainin
2. Kamchastkia
3. Maklohi Vai
4. Bering

[Neo Rome Republic]

Is it too late to declare candidacy for a ministry?

Nope, go right ahead! You just won't be able to enter the first pot because you're late.

Okay, I wish to run for the Minister of Telecomm. position.

[Maklohi Vai]

Nope, go right ahead! You just won't be able to enter the first pot because you're late.

Okay, I wish to run for the Minister of Telecomm. position.

You just announce a general candidacy, not for a specific office. Whoever finishes first in the voting gets to pick first.