TET: What Have You Learned Today?

[DesAnges]

3rd choice? This could put them over the iPhone if they play their cards right and the i6(7) goes the same way as the i5(6).

Have Android smartphones not become rather dominant already in the current market?

Aye. I was implying that would put the WP into 2nd, behind Android's market.

[Divair]

Because now Microsoft will pump money into the Lumia brand.

I just hope they will continue to do it in Finland.

There's no reason to waste a lot of money either moving all the employees and offices (all 30k of them) or firing them (in which case, why not just buy the patents and brands?)

[Divair]

3rd choice? This could put them over the iPhone if they play their cards right and the i6(7) goes the same way as the i5(6).

Have Android smartphones not become rather dominant already in the current market?

Unfortunately.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Bah, Nightkill - red in a name should not mean 'do not play with'. That's wacist. Or something.

[Jetan]

I just hope they will continue to do it in Finland.

There's no reason to waste a lot of money either moving all the employees and offices (all 30k of them) or firing them (in which case, why not just buy the patents and brands?)

The thing is, even those jobs staying here had more to do with Nokia's image than anything else. Which Microsoft doesn't need to think about. And we aren't exactly a cheap country to do business in.

[Divair]

There's no reason to waste a lot of money either moving all the employees and offices (all 30k of them) or firing them (in which case, why not just buy the patents and brands?)

The thing is, even those jobs staying here had more to do with Nokia's image than anything else. Which Microsoft doesn't need to think about. And we aren't exactly a cheap country to do business in.

I don't see Microsoft wasting money moving 30k people or outsourcing them.

[Hurdegaryp]

Have Android smartphones not become rather dominant already in the current market?

Unfortunately.

I do not see what's so unfortunate about it, since it stopped Apple from becoming the only relevant player in the smartphone scene.

[DesAnges]

Bah, Nightkill - red in a name should not mean 'do not play with'. That's wacist. Or something.

I propse we start the Anti-Nathi Abuse League.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Bah, Nightkill - red in a name should not mean 'do not play with'.

Quite odd, especially when you consider how the red light means exactly the opposite.

[Jetan]

The thing is, even those jobs staying here had more to do with Nokia's image than anything else. Which Microsoft doesn't need to think about. And we aren't exactly a cheap country to do business in.

I don't see Microsoft wasting money moving 30k people or outsourcing them.

It would definately be cheaper in long run though, but hey, fingers crossed.

[Divair]

Unfortunately.

I do not see what's so unfortunate about it, since it stopped Apple from becoming the only relevant player in the smartphone scene.

Given that I'd take an iPhone over an Android phone, I don't see the issue.

[Divair]

I don't see Microsoft wasting money moving 30k people or outsourcing them.

It would definately be cheaper in long run though, but hey, fingers crossed.

You have to remember this is Microsoft we're talking about. They have offices everywhere.

[Ethel mermania]

Because now Microsoft will pump money into the Lumia brand.

Also means that they now have the capabilities to make hardware to match Samsung and Apple, meaning Windows Phones become more of a player.

i liked nokia as a seperate finnish company. RIP, nokia.

[Jetan]

Also means that they now have the capabilities to make hardware to match Samsung and Apple, meaning Windows Phones become more of a player.

i liked nokia as a seperate finnish company. RIP, nokia.

Nokia still exists separately from Microsoft, only the phone division was sold.

[Divair]

i liked nokia as a seperate finnish company. RIP, nokia.

Nokia still exists separately from Microsoft, only the phone division was sold.

Now it's more of a mapping/research/networking company. They're still worth billions. I wouldn't be surprised if they started their own brand of phones (Android? new OS?) later on too.

[Aequalitia]

Unfortunately.

I do not see what's so unfortunate about it, since it stopped Apple from becoming the only relevant player in the smartphone scene.

Indeed. A private monopoly is always bad. So competition is always better then a private monopoly.

And Android is just better!

[Ethel mermania]

i liked nokia as a seperate finnish company. RIP, nokia.

Nokia still exists separately from Microsoft, only the phone division was sold.

phone division was the biggest moneymaker. but i am glad to hear it was not the whole compqany.

[Jetan]

Nokia still exists separately from Microsoft, only the phone division was sold.

Now it's more of a mapping/research/networking company. They're still worth billions.

Yeah. What's funny is that this isn't the first time stuff like this has happened either (altought the scale is unprecedented, obviously), Nokia used to make everything from sheets to rubber boots and tires.

[Divair]

Now it's more of a mapping/research/networking company. They're still worth billions.

Yeah. What's funny is that this isn't the first time stuff like this has happened either (altought the scale is unprecedented, obviously), Nokia used to make everything from sheets to rubber boots and tires.

All of the large Japanese/Korean tech manufacturers used to do produce random products before they went into tech, too.

[Jetan]

Nokia still exists separately from Microsoft, only the phone division was sold.

phone division was the biggest moneymaker. but i am glad to hear it was not the whole compqany.

Actually, the phone division has been making loss for several years now.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

I do not see what's so unfortunate about it, since it stopped Apple from becoming the only relevant player in the smartphone scene.

Indeed. A private monopoly is always bad. So competition is always better then a private monopoly.

And Android is just better!

Besides, a monopoly leads to limited options for the patrons.

[Divair]

phone division was the biggest moneymaker. but i am glad to hear it was not the whole compqany.

Actually, the phone division has been making loss for numerous years now.

The consequence of sitting on Symbian for so long. Been turning around since Elop waltzed in and dumped Symbian.

[The Holy Therns]

'Tis an odd feeling when my friends start consulting me on questions about linguistics, history and philosophy.

Silly fools, I'm not clever.

[Hurdegaryp]

I do not see what's so unfortunate about it, since it stopped Apple from becoming the only relevant player in the smartphone scene.

Given that I'd take an iPhone over an Android phone, I don't see the issue.

So when in doubt, you would go hipster without a second thought? This disappoints me.

[San Leggera]

I managed to restring a guitar and only screw up twice! Go me!