The Classical Monarchist Party: Official HQ [NSG Senate]

[Irredento]

Is Irridento still active?

I am indeed. Why do you ask?

If it's about running for Chairman once more, I would be happy to retake the position if there is support for the idea among the party. I stepped down back in the day because some fairly serious issues in real life were taking up so much time that I just didn't have enough time left over to run the daily affairs of the party, but this is no longer the case, so a return to my old position is definitely a possibility.

Might I ask who else is running? Is it just Maryginia so far?

[Old Tyrannia]

Is Irridento still active?

I am indeed. Why do you ask?

If it's about running for Chairman once more, I would be happy to retake the position if there is support for the idea among the party. I stepped down back in the day because some fairly serious issues in real life were taking up so much time that I just didn't have enough time left over to run the daily affairs of the party, but this is no longer the case, so a return to my old position is definitely a possibility.

Might I ask who else is running? Is it just Maryginia so far?

Maryginia has been nominated, but is yet to accept the nomination. So currently no one is running for Chairman. As such, I think it would be acceptable to extend the nomination period. I'm not free until 2pm today anyway, and presidential elections last 96 hours so we aren't in that much of a hurry. As such, I'll extend nominations to 8:00 pm tonight. If no one declares their intention to run or accepts their nomination by then, I will assume the role of Chairman and Prime Minister/Leader of the Opposition until the end of the first Prime Ministerial term, when we will hold another election.

I suggest any would-be Chairmen also state who they would appoint to the CMP held positions in the Cabinet. Like so:

Culture:
Environment:
Business Safety:

I'd say Maryginia ought to be guaranteed the Business Safety seat, since he bargained for it in the last government with Belmaria and has held a cabinet post in every government thus far with fairly consistent activity. Call it a privilege of his office as Chair of the Libertarian Caucus. I would like to serve as Minister for the Environment if I don't become PM/LotO by default.

On the plus side, we're currently winning the Arch-Usurper elections by a landslide.

[Irredento]

In that case, I will stand.

I would like to have Grand Longueville as our Minister of Culture as his views are very much in line with my own, but only if he can promise to be active, and I would be happy to have our Lord President serve as Minister of the Environment as suggested. As for the Minister of Business Safety, I would prefer to have a distributist such as The Gallant Old Republic in a position that is so strongly linked with the economy, especially as I'll probably be running against Maryginia and his views seem to be more in line with that of the libertarians in the Senate than the CMP as a whole. This would also mean that all the members I appoint to the cabinet are consistently of a Chesterton-inspired High Tory mindset. I feel that the Party could really use a bit more consistency in all areas while still being open to ideological outliers. That said, if the Lord President feels strongly about this issue and if Maryginia stops being so inactive, I'm willing to comply.

As it stands, however...

Culture: Grand Longueville
Environment: Old Tyrannia
Business Safety: The Gallant Old Republic

This is assuming that all of the above members are willing to serve in these positions and can guarantee a decent amount of activity.

[Grand Longueville]

In that case, I will stand.

I would like to have Grand Longueville as our Minister of Culture as his views are very much in line with my own, but only if he can promise to be active, and I would be happy to have our Lord President serve as Minister of the Environment as suggested. As for the Minister of Business Safety, I would prefer to have a distributist such as The Gallant Old Republic in a position that is so strongly linked with the economy, especially as I'll probably be running against Maryginia and his views seem to be more in line with that of the libertarians in the Senate than the CMP as a whole. This would also mean that all the members I appoint to the cabinet are consistently of a Chesterton-inspired High Tory mindset. I feel that the Party could really use a bit more consistency in all areas while still being open to ideological outliers. That said, if the Lord President feels strongly about this issue and if Maryginia stops being so inactive, I'm willing to comply.

As it stands, however...

Culture: Grand Longueville
Environment: Old Tyrannia
Business Safety: The Gallant Old Republic

This is assuming that all of the above members are willing to serve in these positions and can guarantee a decent amount of activity.

Fine show lad! You have my unwavering support.

[Old Tyrannia]

Well, nominations have now been open for around 32 hours, and only one person has declared their intent to run- that being Senator Reinhard Lohengramm von Irredento. As such I have no choice but to declare Irredento Chairman of the Classical Monarchist Party and NFC candidate for Prime Minister by default. I apologize to Celritannia who nominated Maryginia for the role, but since Maryginia has failed to accept the nomination in time and we require a Prime Ministerial candidate for His Excellency Arch-Usurper Schmidt ASAP (I use that term endearingly, Senator Schmidt has been, in my opinion, Aurentina's best president thus far), I cannot accept his candidacy.

Congratulations Chairman Irredento, the first Chairman of the Party to be re-elected Chairman after leaving the post. And very likely soon to be second Classical Monarchist Prime Minister of Aurentina, with the presidential elections still going in our favour- 65-46, a very comfortable majority. Cower before the might of the right-wing political machine!

[Kouralia]

the right-wing political machine!

Stop your presses Lennon, you call me mister Bill O'Reilly
When it comes to squashing limeys: I come recommended highly

[Dangelia]

Culture: Grand Longueville
Environment: Old Tyrannia
Business Safety: The Gallant Old Republic

[The Nihilistic view]

If I may say the noises coming out of this party as are going to make it mighty hard to vote in a CMP PM.

On the point of inactivity, it bemuses me how a senator who has recently been back from a very long period of inactivity can call a senator who regularly is active (I know this because we TG and RP together) inactive. In fact until today Maryginia was the last one of the two active having been online several days since the 8th which was the last time Irredento was on.

On a second point, the NFC won't be happy with a PM who did not vote for the coalition in the election. I personally won't be voting for a PM candidate who can't be bothered to make a short trip to a polling station to support the side he seeks to be PM of.

[Beta Test]

If I may say the noises coming out of this party as are going to make it mighty hard to vote in a CMP PM.

On the point of inactivity, it bemuses me how a senator who has recently been back from a very long period of inactivity can call a senator who regularly is active (I know this because we TG and RP together) inactive. In fact until today Maryginia was the last one of the two active having been online several days since the 8th which was the last time Irredento was on.

On a second point, the NFC won't be happy with a PM who did not vote for the coalition in the election. I personally won't be voting for a PM candidate who can't be bothered to make a short trip to a polling station to support the side he seeks to be PM of.

As the VP candidate of the NFC, I also believe that someone who did not vote for the coalition does not deserve the nomination for Prime Minister. If they can't support their own presidential candidate, then I see no reason why they should be nominated by that president to be the PM.

[The Nihilistic view]

The same applies for Grand Longueville, he needs to vote if we are to be happy with him holding a ministry. He has been active over the election. If you are in this coalition you have duty, a duty to support that coalition in elections. You should not expect to get ministries and executive positions unless you support the coalition candidate with votes.

I hope your all having a lovely day though.

[Grand Longueville]

If I may say the noises coming out of this party as are going to make it mighty hard to vote in a CMP PM.

On the point of inactivity, it bemuses me how a senator who has recently been back from a very long period of inactivity can call a senator who regularly is active (I know this because we TG and RP together) inactive. In fact until today Maryginia was the last one of the two active having been online several days since the 8th which was the last time Irredento was on.

On a second point, the NFC won't be happy with a PM who did not vote for the coalition in the election. I personally won't be voting for a PM candidate who can't be bothered to make a short trip to a polling station to support the side he seeks to be PM of.

What noises are these and who is this senator that you're talking of in the second paragraph?

[Kouralia]

If you are in this coalition you have duty, a duty to support that coalition in elections

So, I don't actually have to vote for NB?

[Old Tyrannia]

If I may say the noises coming out of this party as are going to make it mighty hard to vote in a CMP PM.

Sir, are you suggesting that the NFC break its electoral pact with the CMP, effectively, expel the CMP from the Coalition?

On the point of inactivity, it bemuses me how a senator who has recently been back from a very long period of inactivity can call a senator who regularly is active (I know this because we TG and RP together) inactive. In fact until today Maryginia was the last one of the two active having been online several days since the 8th which was the last time Irredento was on.

That is totally out of line. Irredento had his reasons for his long absence, and responsibly resigned from his posts before leaving. Since returning he has been more than sufficiently active. Maryginia is indeed generally quite active, and I do believe Irredento's comments were unfair although I believe they were prompted by misconception rather than any ill will. However the fact is he has been absent for the last 36 hours in which nominations for the chairman's position have taken place, and President Schmidt specifically asked us to select a Prime Minister as quickly as possible. I have only done so through the established protocol for choosing new leaders of the Party.

On a second point, the NFC won't be happy with a PM who did not vote for the coalition in the election. I personally won't be voting for a PM candidate who can't be bothered to make a short trip to a polling station to support the side he seeks to be PM of.

You assume that Irredento has not voted yet because he does not plan to. I am sure he will do so in good time, especially as I now request as Lord President that he does so.

However, I suggest that since the CMP has been promised the Premiership by the President, in the event that Irredento fails to be confirmed by the Senate as Prime Minister I should be second choice, since I am clearly active and cannot be accused of wasting any time in voting for Tom Schmidt as President. And if I become Prime Minister, I assure you I will not look kindly on anyone who rejected my CMP compatriot.

[Beta Test]

If you are in this coalition you have duty, a duty to support that coalition in elections

So, I don't actually have to vote for NB?

Silence!

[The Nihilistic view]

If you are in this coalition you have duty, a duty to support that coalition in elections

So, I don't actually have to vote for NB?

Nobody has to, but you know that is the condition of your continued stay as MoI. You just don't have a committed duty.

[Kouralia]

So, I don't actually have to vote for NB?

Silence!

Make me.

[Beta Test]

Silence!

Make me.

*takes MoI position*

There!

[Kouralia]

So, I don't actually have to vote for NB?

Nobody has to, but you know that is the condition of your continued stay as MoI. You just don't have a committed duty.

Says the person who has no authority over me.

[Grand Longueville]

The same applies for Grand Longueville, he needs to vote if we are to be happy with him holding a ministry. He has been active over the election. If you are in this coalition you have duty, a duty to support that coalition in elections. You should not expect to get ministries and executive positions unless you support the coalition candidate with votes.

I hope your all having a lovely day though.

With all due respect, my vote belongs to me. It will not be ruled by some coalition that I never wanted to be a part of anyway! That said, I have voted for Sen. Schmidt.

[Kouralia]

Make me.

*takes MoI position*

There!

*Takes it back*

Nuh-uh

[Beta Test]

*takes MoI position*

There!

*Takes it back*

Nuh-uh

You can't steal that I own it!

[Kouralia]

*Takes it back*

Nuh-uh

You can't steal that I own it!

*Looks at the door to the Minister of the Interior's Office*
"Alfred Wintle... Nope, don;t see your name on it anywhere."

[The Nihilistic view]

If I may say the noises coming out of this party as are going to make it mighty hard to vote in a CMP PM.

Sir, are you suggesting that the NFC break its electoral pact with the CMP, effectively, expel the CMP from the Coalition?

On the point of inactivity, it bemuses me how a senator who has recently been back from a very long period of inactivity can call a senator who regularly is active (I know this because we TG and RP together) inactive. In fact until today Maryginia was the last one of the two active having been online several days since the 8th which was the last time Irredento was on.

That is totally out of line. Irredento had his reasons for his long absence, and responsibly resigned from his posts before leaving. Since returning he has been more than sufficiently active. Maryginia is indeed generally quite active, and I do believe Irredento's comments were unfair although I believe they were prompted by misconception rather than any ill will. However the fact is he has been absent for the last 36 hours in which nominations for the chairman's position have taken place, and President Schmidt specifically asked us to select a Prime Minister as quickly as possible. I have only done so through the established protocol for choosing new leaders of the Party.

On a second point, the NFC won't be happy with a PM who did not vote for the coalition in the election. I personally won't be voting for a PM candidate who can't be bothered to make a short trip to a polling station to support the side he seeks to be PM of.

You assume that Irredento has not voted yet because he does not plan to. I am sure he will do so in good time, especially as I now request as Lord President that he does so.

However, I suggest that since the CMP has been promised the Premiership by the President, in the event that Irredento fails to be confirmed by the Senate as Prime Minister I should be second choice, since I am clearly active and cannot be accused of wasting any time in voting for Tom Schmidt as President. And if I become Prime Minister, I assure you I will not look kindly on anyone who rejected my CMP compatriot.

That is a total strawmaning of my point. I never said anywhere that it should not be a CMP candidate, but that it should not be a candidate that has not voted yet has been online and failed to vote yet expects and has had the time to argue a case to be your PM candidate.

And so you would think that would make him understanding to those who have not been online for a mere two day's wouldn't you? But it seem's not. If you believe it unfair, why not raise it at the time?

Again, if we dispense with the straw for a minute, I don't believe those failing to get out and vote should get a seat. Though threatening those how take a principled stand does not really indicate to me that you are the right candidate for PM in that event. But your party has several others who either have voted or have not been online that would make much better Pm's, people that don't silence opposition with threats. You know making threats on a misrepresentation of another's position is never a good idea.

As you say, you were promised the PM position but as you also know you were promised this in return for your votes. If' you fill you positions with people who did not vote, clearly you would not be fully holding up your side of the coalition agreement.

[Beta Test]

You can't steal that I own it!

*Looks at the door to the Minister of the Interior's Office*
"Alfred Wintle... Nope, don;t see your name on it anywhere."

*is defeated*

[The Nihilistic view]

The same applies for Grand Longueville, he needs to vote if we are to be happy with him holding a ministry. He has been active over the election. If you are in this coalition you have duty, a duty to support that coalition in elections. You should not expect to get ministries and executive positions unless you support the coalition candidate with votes.

I hope your all having a lovely day though.

With all due respect, my vote belongs to me. It will not be ruled by some coalition that I never wanted to be a part of anyway! That said, I have voted for Sen. Schmidt.

I never said you had to vote. You don't, but if you want a position then you really ought to vote for it. Trying to take a position yet not voting is not going to sit with the rest of the coalition or the Iron party, who earn theirs by voting.