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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:40 am

Belmaria wrote:
Senate President pro Tempore wrote:Ahem, please make sure you read all of the final vote count message.

Sorry...


No problem.

Also, I think Domestic Development applies to the Second Amendment to SIMBEDS.
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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:49 am

Debate has officially started on the Domestic Development Category Section A (in correlation with SASOPA) and will end on Fri Aug 23th, 2013 1:50 pm EDT [UTC-4].
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Postby New Bierstaat » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:49 am

What's on queue for the Domestic Development category?
Other than my ferry bill, of course
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Postby Battlion » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:50 am

New Bierstaat wrote:What's on queue for the Domestic Development category?
Other than my ferry bill, of course


A lot...

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Postby Senate President pro Tempore » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:51 am

New Bierstaat wrote:What's on queue for the Domestic Development category?
Other than my ferry bill, of course


In correlation with SASOPA, we must split DD into 3 parts, as it has 17 bills. This means your act will be in Section C, to be voted on 2 votes from now. Right now, please pay attention only to Section A. You will find all of this if you look at the queue.
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Postby New Bierstaat » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:52 am

So after this vote, we'll proceed immediately to debate on part B?
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Postby Venaleria » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:55 am

New Bierstaat wrote:So after this vote, we'll proceed immediately to debate on part B?


Exactly, and then after that, Part C.
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Postby Venaleria » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:57 am

Attention Senators, the Prime Minister has asked to make a thank you speech for his appointment. I will allow this, on the grounds that all comments are to still go into the lobby afterwards. I urge you to read the speech, as there may also be a copy in the lobby as well. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:59 am

Esteemed Senators of Aurentina,

I stand before you truly humbled by the confidence this Senate has placed in my abilities to serve as Prime Minister of this great nation. I wish to express my deepest gratitude to all of you, whether you voted for me or against me.

Now, I want to look towards the future. President Britanno and I will be finalizing the third government of Aurentina in the coming days, and I look forward to serving with a group of capable and qualified ministers. I hope that this government can benefit Aurentina, and I know that I will work tirelessly to better this fine nation.

Today, I am so grateful for the chance you have given me. I hope that all of you will work with me to help fulfill the full promise of this opportunity.

Thank you for your time.
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Postby Distruzio » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:03 am

Welsh Cowboy wrote:Esteemed Senators of Aurentina,

I stand before you truly humbled by the confidence this Senate has placed in my abilities to serve as Prime Minister of this great nation. I wish to express my deepest gratitude to all of you, whether you voted for me or against me.

Now, I want to look towards the future. President Britanno and I will be finalizing the third government of Aurentina in the coming days, and I look forward to serving with a group of capable and qualified ministers. I hope that this government can benefit Aurentina, and I know that I will work tirelessly to better this fine nation.

Today, I am so grateful for the chance you have given me. I hope that all of you will work with me to help fulfill the full promise of this opportunity.

Thank you for your time.


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Postby New Bierstaat » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:04 am

Ok, I'd like to begin the debate by asking the Senate how thy feel about nationalization of the rail system as mandated by the Railway Act.
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Postby Venaleria » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:05 am

Distruzio wrote:
Welsh Cowboy wrote:Esteemed Senators of Aurentina,

I stand before you truly humbled by the confidence this Senate has placed in my abilities to serve as Prime Minister of this great nation. I wish to express my deepest gratitude to all of you, whether you voted for me or against me.

Now, I want to look towards the future. President Britanno and I will be finalizing the third government of Aurentina in the coming days, and I look forward to serving with a group of capable and qualified ministers. I hope that this government can benefit Aurentina, and I know that I will work tirelessly to better this fine nation.

Today, I am so grateful for the chance you have given me. I hope that all of you will work with me to help fulfill the full promise of this opportunity.

Thank you for your time.


Lifting his glass in solemn salute, Titolli de Medici nods in the direction his new Prime Minister.


Ahem, please read my previous comment.
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Postby Distruzio » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:07 am

Venaleria wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Lifting his glass in solemn salute, Titolli de Medici nods in the direction his new Prime Minister.


Ahem, please read my previous comment.


.... one drink too many it seems. Apologies.
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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:51 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:Ok, I'd like to begin the debate by asking the Senate how thy feel about nationalization of the rail system as mandated by the Railway Act.

I'm all for it.
Nevertheless, i think that we should mandate the railway to be operating off electricity by 2020, not any further, as Global Warming would be already partially irreversible by 2035.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:54 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Ok, I'd like to begin the debate by asking the Senate how thy feel about nationalization of the rail system as mandated by the Railway Act.

I'm all for it.
Nevertheless, i think that we should mandate the railway to be operating off electricity by 2020, not any further, as Global Warming would be already partially irreversible by 2035.


Logical fallacy.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:56 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:I'm all for it.
Nevertheless, i think that we should mandate the railway to be operating off electricity by 2020, not any further, as Global Warming would be already partially irreversible by 2035.


Logical fallacy.

Which logical fallacy and how?
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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:57 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:I'm all for it.
Nevertheless, i think that we should mandate the railway to be operating off electricity by 2020, not any further, as Global Warming would be already partially irreversible by 2035.


Logical fallacy.


How so? You deem impossible that some effects could be irreversible, but not all?

Regarding the Protection of Religious Freedom for Minors Act, i think it should be added that no minor under the age of 12 should take part in any religious activity.

Question: does Aurentine have a standing or conscription army?
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Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:59 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Logical fallacy.

Which logical fallacy and how?


Well if indeed global warming is because of us it is always reversible if we take the right steps such as planing new forests to soak up the carbon etc. The world once had far higher levels of CO2 etc in the atmosphere than now.

By saying which I take it you have found more than one?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:01 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Logical fallacy.


How so? You deem impossible that some effects could be irreversible, but not all?

Regarding the Protection of Religious Freedom for Minors Act, i think it should be added that no minor under the age of 12 should take part in any religious activity.

Question: does Aurentine have a standing or conscription army?

"So you want to ban children going to church?" asked Boris whilst thinking "Why am I not surprised you are a communist."


"What you mean does the country have a standing army, if so is it volunteer or conscript?"
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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:02 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Which logical fallacy and how?


Well if indeed global warming is because of us it is always reversible if we take the right steps such as planing new forests to soak up the carbon etc. The world once had far higher levels of CO2 etc in the atmosphere than now.

By saying which I take it you have found more than one?


Senator, i was speaking considering the current events, which are enough to make me believe what i states, i.e. that by 2035 the pollution of the biosphere would be permanent regarding some effects on the climate and/or biodiversity.
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
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Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:03 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Logical fallacy.


How so? You deem impossible that some effects could be irreversible, but not all?

Regarding the Protection of Religious Freedom for Minors Act, i think it should be added that no minor under the age of 12 should take part in any religious activity.

Question: does Aurentine have a standing or conscription army?


No way, that would be taking a right away from a person to exercise religion.
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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:03 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:
How so? You deem impossible that some effects could be irreversible, but not all?

Regarding the Protection of Religious Freedom for Minors Act, i think it should be added that no minor under the age of 12 should take part in any religious activity.

Question: does Aurentine have a standing or conscription army?

So you want to ban children going to church?


What you mean does the country have a standing army, if so is it volunteer or conscript?


Yes.

Yes, i would like to know that.
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby Sahrani DR » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:04 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:
How so? You deem impossible that some effects could be irreversible, but not all?

Regarding the Protection of Religious Freedom for Minors Act, i think it should be added that no minor under the age of 12 should take part in any religious activity.

Question: does Aurentine have a standing or conscription army?


No way, that would be taking a right away from a person to exercise religion.


I think that persons under the age of 12 lack the maturity to decide whether or not they are willing to worship.
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:05 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:So you want to ban children going to church?


What you mean does the country have a standing army, if so is it volunteer or conscript?


Yes.

Yes, i would like to know that.


That is outrageous. We cannot tell people what to do in these cases. The government would be having too much control over people's lives.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:06 pm

Sahrani DR wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Well if indeed global warming is because of us it is always reversible if we take the right steps such as planing new forests to soak up the carbon etc. The world once had far higher levels of CO2 etc in the atmosphere than now.

By saying which I take it you have found more than one?


Senator, i was speaking considering the current events, which are enough to make me believe what i states, i.e. that by 2035 the pollution of the biosphere would be permanent regarding some effects on the climate and/or biodiversity.


Well sorry to inform you its not, in our short life times it may appear to be permanent but in the life of the planet it most defiantly is not permanent although we may not be around to see it change.
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