Aurentine Constitutional Convention [NSG Senate]

[The Nihilistic view]

Objecting now. I demand the right to institute a hereditary monarchy, even if the dynastic founder must be elected and subsequent monarchs confirmed by a vote in the provincial legislature.

No, that is undemocratic to its core.

Monarchs are not supposed to be democratic, they are their own man to rise above politics and to transcend ideological forces. They are a figure who sets an example for us all.

[Great Nepal]

No, that is undemocratic to its core.

Monarchs are not supposed to be democratic, they are their own man to rise above politics and to transcend ideological forces. They are a figure who sets an example for us all.

That will give them permanent and absolute control over the province for all of eternity, that is simply not acceptable.
(OOC: although I might be able to "forget this" if CMP humiliates the president by defeating current proposal for prime minister in chambers)

[The Nihilistic view]

Monarchs are not supposed to be democratic, they are their own man to rise above politics and to transcend ideological forces. They are a figure who sets an example for us all.

That will give them permanent and absolute control over the province for all of eternity, that is simply not acceptable.
(OOC: although I might be able to "forget this" if CMP humiliates the president by defeating current proposal for prime minister in chambers)

You are going for an elected absolute monarch? Are you mad Bro?

[Old Tyrannia]

Objecting now. I demand the right to institute a hereditary monarchy, even if the dynastic founder must be elected and subsequent monarchs confirmed by a vote in the provincial legislature.

No, that is undemocratic to its core.

Obviously. It's a monarchy.

[Jetan]

Great, so thats fine.
Only other monarchist in the convention is OT, and to my knowledge he hasn't objected to elective monarchy.

Objecting now. I demand the right to institute a hereditary monarchy, even if the dynastic founder must be elected and subsequent monarchs confirmed by a vote in the provincial legislature.

Think of it this way, if the monarchy is the stabilising and uniting force you say it is, the heir of the reigning monarch should have no trouble winning the election on their own. But hereditary is a no-no.

[Battlion]

Objecting now. I demand the right to institute a hereditary monarchy, even if the dynastic founder must be elected and subsequent monarchs confirmed by a vote in the provincial legislature.

You demand that right? You've already been given enough

[Old Tyrannia]

Objecting now. I demand the right to institute a hereditary monarchy, even if the dynastic founder must be elected and subsequent monarchs confirmed by a vote in the provincial legislature.

You demand that right? You've already been given enough

From where I'm standing, the CMP has been forced to give far too much ground already.

[Great Nepal]

You demand that right? You've already been given enough

From where I'm standing, the CMP has been forced to give far too much ground already.

Fine, lets hold a convention's vote. If you win, you get hereditary monarchy if we win, we get chief provincial executive who is regularly elected. Do we have deal?

[Old Tyrannia]

From where I'm standing, the CMP has been forced to give far too much ground already.

Fine, lets hold a convention's vote. If you win, you get hereditary monarchy if we win, we get chief provincial executive who is regularly elected. Do we have deal?

I thought we were trying to move away from just voting on everything?

[Great Nepal]

Fine, lets hold a convention's vote. If you win, you get hereditary monarchy if we win, we get chief provincial executive who is regularly elected. Do we have deal?

I thought we were trying to move away from just voting on everything?

This is exceptional circumstances, we have spent far too much time on division of state... its time to hold a vote and move on.

[Old Tyrannia]

I thought we were trying to move away from just voting on everything?

This is exceptional circumstances, we have spent far too much time on division of state... its time to hold a vote and move on.

We have spent rather more time than strictly necessary on just about every topic, to be fair.

Mainly because the leftists refuse to negotiate or compromise.

[Great Nepal]

This is exceptional circumstances, we have spent far too much time on division of state... its time to hold a vote and move on.

We have spent rather more time than strictly necessary on just about every topic, to be fair.

Which is why we should get a move on... by holding more votes. Which is why, I am suggesting we hold a vote on monarchy issue.

[Battlion]

I don't see why we need to vote, most people want an elected monarch that is below the federal government.

[Great Nepal]

I don't see why we need to vote, most people want an elected monarch that is below the federal government.

To get an official consensus that we can cite.

[Britanno]

*Cough Cough*

Only FSC, Ainin or I have the power to call a vote.

[Battlion]

*Cough Cough*

Only FSC, Ainin or I have the power to call a vote.

Are we going to hold a vote?

[Great Nepal]

*Cough Cough*

Only FSC, Ainin or I have the power to call a vote.

I am simply suggesting we hold a vote.

[Britanno]

Monarchs are not supposed to be democratic, they are their own man to rise above politics and to transcend ideological forces. They are a figure who sets an example for us all.

That will give them permanent and absolute control over the province for all of eternity, that is simply not acceptable.
(OOC: although I might be able to "forget this" if CMP humiliates the president by defeating current proposal for prime minister in chambers)

Great Nepal you are hereby WARNED, this is unacceptable behaviour and more like it will lead to you being removed from the convention.

[Britanno]

I've just come online, give me a minute it catch up people.

[Great Nepal]

That will give them permanent and absolute control over the province for all of eternity, that is simply not acceptable.
(OOC: although I might be able to "forget this" if CMP humiliates the president by defeating current proposal for prime minister in chambers)

Great Nepal you are hereby WARNED, this is unacceptable behaviour and more like it will lead to you being removed from the convention.

I dont think you understand concept of OOC.

[Britanno]

Great Nepal you are hereby WARNED, this is unacceptable behaviour and more like it will lead to you being removed from the convention.

I dont think you understand concept of OOC.

I don't care, this is unacceptable behaviour IC or OOC.

[Great Nepal]

I dont think you understand concept of OOC.

I don't care, this is unacceptable behaviour IC or OOC.

I am certain you dont understand concept of OOC.
RP 101: OOC information can not be used in IC, that is called metagaming.

[Britanno]

I don't care, this is unacceptable behaviour IC or OOC.

I am certain you dont understand concept of OOC.
RP 101: OOC information can not be used in IC, that is called metagaming.

OOC: You are still warned. I'm not using OOC information in IC, up until now I presumed this was like the lobby, OOC.

[The Nihilistic view]

I am certain you dont understand concept of OOC.
RP 101: OOC information can not be used in IC, that is called metagaming.

OOC: You are still warned. I'm not using OOC information in IC, up until now I presumed this was like the lobby, OOC.

OOC: To be honest that is what I thought as well.

[Of the Quendi]

Great Nepal you are hereby WARNED, this is unacceptable behaviour and more like it will lead to you being removed from the convention.

On what grounds. Making backdoor deals isn't illegal.

EDIT: And are you even an Admin? Great Nepal is so what authority do you have to issue warnings?