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Postby The Truth and Light » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:16 pm

Pizza will be ready in a few minutes. So excited.

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Postby Seitonjin » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:17 pm

Bodobol wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:Downer endings are a necessity in dystopias. Realism.


I know... ;_;

I think I'm going to read Animal Farm next.

I thought you would read Animal Farm prior to 1984...
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Postby Ordenburg » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:17 pm

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Why is this always what happens when my thoughts become words; the truth rests in the extremes, and facts alone do not adequately describe the truth.

It's not you. It's my brain not wrapping around philosophy. I can't into philosophy.


And I think too much, and there are times, when I try to explain my thoughts to people, pure logic does not have the desired effect. It does not tear into their minds like a cruel blade like it does mine, and in my attempts to explain it I often fail.
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Postby Belligerent Alcoholics » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:18 pm

Grenartia wrote:You don't feel safe? The only even remotely transphobic person on here in the last hour was Gallup, and he appears to have left as soon as Luv started talking about liking women with penises. You have no reason not to feel safe, and you're coming across as little more than a special snowflake, who can't bear to have their ideas fairly criticized.

The mindset I see with that one reminds me of the SJWs on Tumblr.

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Sorry sorry.
It's just that they are far to forceful and far too... ecstatic.

No need to apologise. :p
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:18 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
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Boe Jiden is awesome.


Indeed he is. That's why I chose him as my running mate. :p

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Grenartia wrote:I don't know why, but things like that seem to come naturally to me. Like I was born to solve problems or something. :unsure:

Maybe that's just what the Lord had in mind for you? :hug:


I believe so. :hug:
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Postby Thafoo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:18 pm

Bodobol wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:Downer endings are a necessity in dystopias. Realism.


I know... ;_;

I think I'm going to read Animal Farm next.

I loved Animal Farm. Among my favorites.

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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:19 pm

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Coffee Cakes wrote:Quite honestly, it's the reason I'm not involved with any of them.
George Takei though, despite being Buddhist, has done a good job on his FB page to be mindful that there are a number of Christans/churches that are supportive.

It's great that George points that out, because they often get drowned out by the likes of Westboro. The campus minister at my alma mater (not a priest, thanks to the priest shortage) has done his best to make that Newman Center a place where LGBT+ Catholics feel totally welcomed, at least among that congregation.
That said, I understand why so many of our LGBT+ brothers and sisters turn away from faith. I wish they wouldn't write it off completely, but I do get it.

Coffee Cakes wrote:One of my favorite lines I've ever read was an inbox from another NSer back in the day, who's fairly involved in his church and a devout Christian. He told me the reason he still embraces faith is: "God wouldn't create a person to hate them for a trait He built them with. God sees people in need of love, and as a loving deity, it wouldn't be in His nature to condemn a portion of humanity to Hell for a trait which cannot be helped, and He wants to love His children and be loved back, whatever their orientation."
I dunno why, but that quote has really stuck with me over the last 2 years.

Whoever that is, he's doing it right.

Coffee Cakes wrote:Also, oddly, between online and offline, my gay/bi friends are on the whole more proportionately Christian than the straights are. It's like 75% of my gay/bi friends are Christian compared to about 55% of my straight friends.

That's the opposite of what society would have you believe. :p

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The individual denominations need to be on the receiving end of a heave-ho.
Churches should be buildings where people can come together to fellowship and learn, but they should be interchangeable in an ideal situation.
Unfortunately, peaceful denominationalism is the best we have, and it sure beats the hell outta wars between the churches.

Yeah, I'd rather not see a return to the Wars of Religion either.


I wish they wouldn't write it off either, but sadly, to them, it seems really the only option at times... and who could blame them?
If all you're hearing is an echo chamber of "God hates you" why would you believe after hearing it for so long?

That would be Vellosia. He's really a fascinating person to talk to.

That is the opposite for sure, but that's why I get a weird sort of joy out of it, if that makes sense.

And agreed. Religious war is stupid.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:19 pm

Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:
Grenartia wrote:You don't feel safe? The only even remotely transphobic person on here in the last hour was Gallup, and he appears to have left as soon as Luv started talking about liking women with penises. You have no reason not to feel safe, and you're coming across as little more than a special snowflake, who can't bear to have their ideas fairly criticized.

The mindset I see with that one reminds me of the SJWs on Tumblr.

I am right here. :(

I mean I get it if you didn't like my ideas, but I think all of this is a little uncalled for. I tried to end the discussion, I told you I wasn't enjoying it, then you go and prove my point by calling me names. What exactly do you want from me? I didn't even call you trans*phobic. What is it?
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:19 pm

I'm debating whether to stay a bit longer, or go watch something before going to bed.

Choices choices.

I hate choices. I wish I had an extra brain to do all the deciding.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:19 pm

Ordenburg wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:It's not you. It's my brain not wrapping around philosophy. I can't into philosophy.


And I think too much, and there are times, when I try to explain my thoughts to people, pure logic does not have the desired effect. It does not tear into their minds like a cruel blade like it does mine, and in my attempts to explain it I often fail.

It happens to the best of us ole chap :3
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Seitonjin wrote:Sorry sorry.
It's just that they are far to forceful and far too... ecstatic.

No need to apologise. :p
Forceful? They exiled anyone from Massachusetts Bay who wasn't a Puritan. That's a little more than forceful.
As for ecstatic, they seemed way too repressed in so many ways to be ecstatic.

They were ecstatic about their repressive attitudes :p
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Postby Bodobol » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:20 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Bodobol wrote:
I know... ;_;

I think I'm going to read Animal Farm next.

I thought you would read Animal Farm prior to 1984...


I had to read 1984 for school. That's why I read it first.

Thafoo wrote:
Bodobol wrote:
I know... ;_;

I think I'm going to read Animal Farm next.

I loved Animal Farm. Among my favorites.


I have a feeling I'll like it, seeing as how I really liked 1984 overall.

Goddamn typos.
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Postby Jolthig » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:20 pm

Well we finally got a little rain the past few days, but they were only occasional showers. And we got the first preview of fall. It has been chilly the past few days and the coldest night is coming tonight. Then, it's going to warm up again here.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:21 pm

Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:
Grenartia wrote:You don't feel safe? The only even remotely transphobic person on here in the last hour was Gallup, and he appears to have left as soon as Luv started talking about liking women with penises. You have no reason not to feel safe, and you're coming across as little more than a special snowflake, who can't bear to have their ideas fairly criticized.

The mindset I see with that one reminds me of the SJWs on Tumblr.


SJW?
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Postby Luveria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:21 pm

Lordieth wrote:I'm debating whether to stay a bit longer, or go watch something before going to bed.

Choices choices.

I hate choices. I wish I had an extra brain to do all the deciding.

I often wish someone else would make those decisions for me, because I would prefer someone makes the right choice for me and I have no choice in the matter, than to have the freedom to make the wrong choice on my own.
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Postby Thafoo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:21 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:The mindset I see with that one reminds me of the SJWs on Tumblr.

I am right here. :(

Really? Last I checked, you told us twice that you were leaving. This is akin to a movie bad guy saying, "I'll shoot you! I'm not afraid! I'll do it! I'll do it this time! I'll do it this time!"

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Postby Thafoo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:22 pm

Bodobol wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:I thought you would read Animal Farm prior to 1984...


I had to read 1984 for school. That's why I read it first.

A Wichita school would have you read 1984? That's strange.

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Postby Seitonjin » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:22 pm

Bodobol wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:I thought you would read Animal Farm prior to 1984...


I had to read 1984 for school. That's why I read it first.

Thafoo wrote:I loved Animal Farm. Among my favorites.


I have a feeling I'll like it, seeing as how I really liked 1984 overall.

Goddamn typos.

Well, Animal Farm is almost like a predecessor to 1984 in my interpretations.
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Postby Bodobol » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:22 pm

Jolthig wrote:Well we finally got a little rain the past few days, but they were only occasional showers. And we got the first preview of fall. It has been chilly the past few days and the coldest night is coming tonight. Then, it's going to warm up again here.


It's rained/stormed every day here for the past few days (it's been raining all day today and doesn't show any signs of letting up), and today was really cool. I enjoy the weather, actually.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:23 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:The mindset I see with that one reminds me of the SJWs on Tumblr.


SJW?


Social Justice Warrior maybe? :unsure:
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Postby Bodobol » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:23 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Bodobol wrote:
I had to read 1984 for school. That's why I read it first.

A Wichita school would have you read 1984? That's strange.


I was originally going to read The Diary of Anne Frank, but then I realized how utterly boring reading some random girl's diary really is.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:23 pm

Thafoo wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:I am right here. :(

Really? Last I checked, you told us twice that you were leaving. This is akin to a movie bad guy saying, "I'll shoot you! I'm not afraid! I'll do it! I'll do it this time! I'll do it this time!"

I never said I was leaving. I said I was leaving that particular tangent. Can we like talk about what everyone had for dinner or something?
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Postby Lordieth » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:24 pm

Luveria wrote:
Lordieth wrote:I'm debating whether to stay a bit longer, or go watch something before going to bed.

Choices choices.

I hate choices. I wish I had an extra brain to do all the deciding.

I often wish someone else would make those decisions for me, because I would prefer someone makes the right choice for me and I have no choice in the matter, than to have the freedom to make the wrong choice on my own.


It's not so much about the choice being right or wrong, it's more about not having to take all the responsibilty for it. My problem is I see so many choices that I get overwhelmed and don't know what to do, so I end up most of the time doing nothing, because there are too many thing I want to do.

The kind of choices I struggle with aren't what you'd classify as right or wrong, but decisions in how I should spend my personal time.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:24 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
SJW?


Social Justice Warrior maybe? :unsure:

*cringes*

They say some good things. But it doesn't seem to help.
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Postby DesAnges » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
SJW?


Social Justice Warrior maybe? :unsure:

That's the one.

Some of the stuff they come out with is funny. Your weight being the 2nd most unchangeable genetic trait after height is my personal favourite.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:26 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Social Justice Warrior maybe? :unsure:

*cringes*

They say some good things. But it doesn't seem to help.


From the vibes I've seen, the intentions are good, but the methods could be better.
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