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The Licentian Isles
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:43 am

Haelunor wrote:Hello fellow red-greens. I went innactive for a while, but I think that I will be more active for the time being, and wish to rejoin the party.

Edit: Actually, I have a few questions, the first being, who is actually in control of the government?

Edit: Figured it out, we lost to a libertarian monarchist coalition.


To be fair to them, there are a few moderates and centrists in there who won't object to some compromise.

And they have fascists. Yeah, that happened.

We do intend to be quite a strong opposition though; this isn't going to be an easy term for President Schmidt and Prime Minister de Medici, if we can turn our words into actions.

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Postby Pesda » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:57 am

Haelunor wrote:Hello fellow red-greens. I went innactive for a while, but I think that I will be more active for the time being, and wish to rejoin the party.

Edit: Actually, I have a few questions, the first being, who is actually in control of the government?

Edit: Figured it out, we lost to a libertarian monarchist coalition.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:25 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:And they have fascists. Yeah, that happened.

We joined the NFC? The hell? I wish someone had told any fucking member of the Iron Party. Or any member of any NFC party.
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Haelunor
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Postby Haelunor » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:04 am

So, when do we get to officially form an Opposition?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:30 am

viewtopic.php?p=17651203#p17651203

There is important information in the Progress Coalition thread. Please click the link above.
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:24 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The Licentian Isles wrote:And they have fascists. Yeah, that happened.

We joined the NFC? The hell? I wish someone had told any fucking member of the Iron Party. Or any member of any NFC party.


I never said you were in the coalition, I said you were working with them, which you were last time I checked

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:31 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:I never said you were in the coalition, I said you were working with them, which you were last time I checked

We voted for their candidate to stop the Left from taking power, one time. We haven't talked since then. I'd hardly call that "working with them."
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Postby Alouite » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:27 pm

How do I join?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:32 pm

Alouite wrote:How do I join?

You sell your soul to Jill Stein.
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Postby Skeckoa » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:18 pm

Hey Lefties! So, I have noticed that the left tends to support my bills more than my own party at times. Also, i want feedback and this is one of the more active ProgCoa parties so yep! So seeing as that the Family Initiative Act will most likely fail, I propose this as a better alternative:

Aurentina Family Tax Rebate Act
Author: Squecoa (LPA); Sponsors: Union of the West (RefP),

I. Definitions
“Minor” is defined as a person of legal residence below the age of 18.
"Parents" is defined as the person, or people, who are registered legal guardians of the minor(s).
“£” is defined as a Great Britain Pound Sterling.

II. Parents shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A yearly tax rebate of £400 per minor under the care and living in the same residential unit as the parents.
aa. The following table should be used in cases where there is more than one child under the care of a parent, or multiple parents

    1 child..... £400
    2 children.....£950
    3 children.....£1500
    4 children.....£2200
    5 or more children.....£600 per child
b. These amounts of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. These amounts stay constant even if the rebate is greater than the amount required in the form of taxes from the family.
d. Parents living in different residential units who share custody of a child do not both garner these benefits. Only the primary caretaker takes these benefits in a case as such.
e. In cases where the child in question achieves the age of majority, as according to Aurentine law, the sum of £400 shall be awarded to the parents for the portion of the year in which the child was legally dependent, and under the custody of the parent.

III. Fraud
a. Knowingly or willingly complying with false or falsely manipulated information will be treated as a delict taken part by all those involved with the recording of the necessary information.


Second draft, any suggestions... I am keeping it universal for now... but that can easily change.
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Postby HumanSanity » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:20 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Alouite wrote:How do I join?

You sell your soul to Jill Stein.

Alouite: welcome to the party. We'll have a mentor with you shortly
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:20 pm

HumanSanity wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You sell your soul to Jill Stein.

Alouite: welcome to the party. We'll have a mentor with you shortly

You know it was funny
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Postby Skeckoa » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:21 pm

HumanSanity wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You sell your soul to Jill Stein.
Alouite: welcome to the party. We'll have a mentor with you shortly
Hey.. you! I have a mission. I think we have the chance to get some cheap land for our energy things... TG me homey.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:18 am

If anyone wants to be the Shadow Minister of Health (Phoca switched) or the Shadow Minister of the Environment, go to the Progress Coalition thread and declare your intentions. We need to fill the positions ASAP.
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Postby Minarchist States » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:32 am

Skeckoa wrote:Hey Lefties!


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Postby Pesda » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:14 pm

MV made me shadow minister of the environment. Yay. But I don't want the position for ever and I would appreciate if one of you asks for it.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:53 pm

I'm finding the Libertarians voting against IUPA to be quite amusing
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:54 pm

Oneracon wrote:I'm finding the Libertarians voting against IUPA to be quite amusing


I find it amusing that you think its amusing. :D

Scotch?
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:55 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:I'm finding the Libertarians voting against IUPA to be quite amusing

I find it amusing that you think its amusing. :D

Scotch?

Oh no thanks, I'm trying to stick to wine nowadays. Supposed to have all those health benefits.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:56 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:I find it amusing that you think its amusing. :D

Scotch?

Oh no thanks, I'm trying to stick to wine nowadays. Supposed to have all those health benefits.


Not to mention it's classier.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:56 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:I find it amusing that you think its amusing. :D

Scotch?

Oh no thanks, I'm trying to stick to wine nowadays. Supposed to have all those health benefits.


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Postby Oneracon » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:57 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Oh no thanks, I'm trying to stick to wine nowadays. Supposed to have all those health benefits.


Death is a health benefit!

From some perspectives, sure. :lol:
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Postby Minarchist States » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:59 pm

Oneracon wrote:I'm finding the Libertarians voting against IUPA to be quite amusing


The official recommendation is tto abstain. Check our thread for details.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:00 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
Oneracon wrote:I'm finding the Libertarians voting against IUPA to be quite amusing


The official recommendation is tto abstain. Check our thread for details.

How per se is the law harmful to private companies? :eyebrow:
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Postby Minarchist States » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:15 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:
The official recommendation is tto abstain. Check our thread for details.

How per se is the law harmful to private companies? :eyebrow:


Where it says that private entities aren't allowed to track people on the web, that pretty much destroys the ability to pick up info from site activity to render advertisements online. Neither does it specify exemptions from products that are specifically designed to do just that. There is more.
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