The Red-Greens Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Pesda]

i voted

Thank you.

[Pesda]

Oh dear.

Unless I'm mistaken, party policy is that whips are one-line. It was never specified what kind of whip it was. If the Chairman has an issue with my abstaining, he may inform me personally.

Frankly, I'd much rather have a libertarian monarchist as my Prime Minister, than a fascist. With Distruzio, perhaps we can cooperate better than if we got a godforsaken Fascist.

Signed,
Alexandra von Hohenzollern
Vice Chair

They're putting fascists in their cabinet. I'm sad that anyone can tolerate that. But I'll leave this to the Chairman.

[Unicario]

Unless I'm mistaken, party policy is that whips are one-line. It was never specified what kind of whip it was. If the Chairman has an issue with my abstaining, he may inform me personally.

Frankly, I'd much rather have a libertarian monarchist as my Prime Minister, than a fascist. With Distruzio, perhaps we can cooperate better than if we got a godforsaken Fascist.

Signed,
Alexandra von Hohenzollern
Vice Chair

They're putting fascists in their cabinet. I'm sad that anyone can tolerate that. But I'll leave this to the Chairman.

Unfortunately, necessary evils must be weathered in regards to the betterment of the nation.

[Distruzio]

They're putting fascists in their cabinet. I'm sad that anyone can tolerate that. But I'll leave this to the Chairman.

Unfortunately, necessary evils must be weathered in regards to the betterment of the nation.

The necessary evil being a non fascist liberal traditionalist with the authority to rebuff syncretic revolutionaries such as the fascist element and the willingness to do so BECAUSE of his antidemocratic sentiments.

Suggesting that a push for fascism through democratic channels would meet stern resistance from the CMP and myself.

I apologize in advance in this comment is out of line.

[Unicario]

Unfortunately, necessary evils must be weathered in regards to the betterment of the nation.

The necessary evil being a non fascist liberal traditionalist with the authority to rebuff syncretic revolutionaries such as the fascist element and the willingness to do so BECAUSE of his antidemocratic sentiments.

Suggesting that a push for fascism through democratic channels would meet stern resistance from the CMP and myself.

I apologize in advance in this comment is out of line.

If I wasn't confident in that fact, I would've still voted Nay.

[Apox]

Hello everyone! So I read somewhere that once you've applied you should go over to your party of choice and announce your support. So, here I am!

[The Licentian Isles]

Hello everyone! So I read somewhere that once you've applied you should go over to your party of choice and announce your support. So, here I am!

I'm pulling people from my region into this party without even mentioning it !! Welcome to the party Apox.

[Pesda]

Hello everyone! So I read somewhere that once you've applied you should go over to your party of choice and announce your support. So, here I am!

welcome. Please vote here
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=271811&start=100
There is a whip to vote against the incoming prime minister. Happy voting.

[Pesda]

Total votes from the Red-Greens so far:

Name Vote
Apox Blank
Arcerion Blank
Ceni N
Cosmicus Blank
Desperauex Blank
Euskirribakondara Blank
FreeOlesia Blank
Gaelic Celtia Blank
Gaiaopolis Blank
Higgins and Brown Blank
HumanSanity N
Key West Blank
Kiruri N
Kranstentistan N
Las Brisas Blank
Levivania Blank
LiamHerndon N
Mollary Blank
New federation janistan N
New Matawan Blank
Octuagesimo Octavo Blank
Oneracon N
Onza Blank
Pesda N
Phing Phong Blank
Polvia Blank
Quebec and Atlantic Canada N
Saigonias Blank
St James Blank
Svalbar Blank
The Casseopians N
The Licentian Isles N
The Realm of God Blank
Unicario A
Venaleria Blank
Yanalia Blank

Where N means Nay or against, A means Abstain, and Y means yay or for. So far there have been 11 votes against, one abstain, and no votes for. 24 people have not voted. Like last time, correct me if you see a mistake.

[Unicario]

Chances are that not every party member will vote. We're not a very active party, despite our best efforts otherwise.

[HumanSanity]

Chances are that not every party member will vote. We're not a very active party, despite our best efforts otherwise.

I'm going to make this a second line whip meaning abstentions are allowed. I will not tolerate any votes for the nominee however. Firstly, there is the issue of fascists in government and a libertarian monarchist PM. Second, I will not support a rightist for PM. I'll support a leftist and I'll support a centrist, but I draw the line there personally.

Besides, this would be like asking them to accept an active member of the CP as PM, they'd vote no.

[Maklohi Vai]

Hello everyone! So I read somewhere that once you've applied you should go over to your party of choice and announce your support. So, here I am!

I see we have another NS Sports convert. Good, good.

[Pesda]

Chances are that not every party member will vote. We're not a very active party, despite our best efforts otherwise.

I'm going to make this a second line whip meaning abstentions are allowed. I will not tolerate any votes for the nominee however. Firstly, there is the issue of fascists in government and a libertarian monarchist PM. Second, I will not support a rightist for PM. I'll support a leftist and I'll support a centrist, but I draw the line there personally.

Besides, this would be like asking them to accept an active member of the CP as PM, they'd vote no.

What's the difference between a one, two, and three line whip?

[Pesda]

Chances are that not every party member will vote. We're not a very active party, despite our best efforts otherwise.

I was not expecting 100% turnout, but this is just bad. After this is all over we should go back to planning for increasing activity.

[Apox at the NSG Senate]

Apox has voted nay on the PM Confirmation bill. Question - Would it be possible to use this nation which is exactly the same ICly as my original for all my NSG Senate stuff?

[HumanSanity]

Apox has voted nay on the PM Confirmation bill. Question - Would it be possible to use this nation which is exactly the same ICly as my original for all my NSG Senate stuff?

Ok, so that actually an admin question. You can contact them here NSG Senate Administrators. My gut feeling is yes but it is better to check.

Or just wait for one of them to show up, I'd give it 3 hours.

[Oneracon]

Apox has voted nay on the PM Confirmation bill. Question - Would it be possible to use this nation which is exactly the same ICly as my original for all my NSG Senate stuff?

Just keep in mind that in the Senate you are not your nation, but rather a senator living in a sort of copy of the real world (where our fictional country exists). The senator doesn't have to be who you are OOC, but they are distinct from your NS nation.

[Pesda]

Apox has voted nay on the PM Confirmation bill.

Thank you.

[Yttribia]

Hi there! I feel honored to be with fellow environmental comrades and support you all the way.

[Pesda]

Hi there! I feel honored to be with fellow environmental comrades and support you all the way.

Do you wish to join us?

[Red-Greens]

Final votes from our party up here Again if you see a mistake tell me.

Name Vote
Apox N
Arcerion Blank
Ceni N
Cosmicus Blank
Desperauex Blank
Euskirribakondara N
FreeOlesia N
Gaelic Celtia Blank
Gaiaopolis Blank
Higgins and Brown N
HumanSanity N
Key West Blank
Kiruri N
Kranstentistan N
Las Brisas N
Levivania Blank
LiamHerndon N
Mollary Blank
New federation janistan N
New Matawan Blank
Octuagesimo Octavo Blank
Oneracon N
Onza Blank
Pesda N
Phing Phong Blank
Polvia Blank
Quebec and Atlantic Canada N
Saigonias Blank
St James Blank
Svalbar Blank
The Casseopians N
The Licentian Isles N
The Realm of God Blank
Unicario A
Venaleria Blank
Yanalia Blank

Where Y means yay or for, A means abstain, and N means nay or against.
So, if I can count, that's 19 (53%) people who didn't vote, noone voted for, one (3%) abstained, and 16 (44%) voted against out of a total of 36 members. That's the same amount of people that voted in the Presidential election. This shows that Red-Greens are as willing to vote in the Prime minister election as they are in the Presidential, which implies that we're able to get out about 17 members whenever there's a party whip. We'll see if that pattern continues. In the mean time we need to develop a stratergy to increase turnout in the long term. Telegrams can only do so much, we need new ideas to increase turnout and general activity. I hope that the central committee can restart talks on this. If any of you have any ideas or comments, please do tg the Red-Green account.
On an other note, sincere thanks to those of you who did vote against the new Prime Minister. We may have lost in the end, but we did put up a fight. Our sixteen votes were the majority of the 27 nays in total, so no one can point fingers at us and say we did badly. Lets continue to stand for what we believe in, and work to become an effective party that has more influence on whichever government that's in power. We could have done better this time, yes, but we can do better in the future. That's what's important and I hope that you will fully support the party's effort to become stronger.
Thank you.
-Pesda, Chief whip

[Yttribia]

Hi there! I feel honored to be with fellow environmental comrades and support you all the way.

Do you wish to join us?

Of course!

[Pesda]

Do you wish to join us?

Of course!

A warm welcome, then. Please do keep active and post in this thread every now and then.

[Oneracon]

So due to exams approaching rather quickly, I'm looking for someone who will be my proxy for the next few weeks as the new government begins to implement its legislative agenda.

Reposting this.

[Haelunor]

Hello fellow red-greens. I went innactive for a while, but I think that I will be more active for the time being, and wish to rejoin the party.

Edit: Actually, I have a few questions, the first being, who is actually in control of the government?

Edit: Figured it out, we lost to a libertarian monarchist coalition.