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The Licentian Isles
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:40 pm

Pesda wrote:Could any one tell me what the proper procedure for questioning the impartiality of a presiding officer is? I don't think that Nihl is being fair in only listing the speeches of four people that are for this confirmation in the OP of the voting thread.


I think you have to motion for it, and then have four/five people second the motion.

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Postby Pesda » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:49 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:
Pesda wrote:Could any one tell me what the proper procedure for questioning the impartiality of a presiding officer is? I don't think that Nihl is being fair in only listing the speeches of four people that are for this confirmation in the OP of the voting thread.


I think you have to motion for it, and then have four/five people second the motion.

Where should I motion it, and will you guys support the motion?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:52 pm

Pesda wrote:Could any one tell me what the proper procedure for questioning the impartiality of a presiding officer is? I don't think that Nihl is being fair in only listing the speeches of four people that are for this confirmation in the OP of the voting thread.


So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:53 pm

Pesda wrote:
The Licentian Isles wrote:
I think you have to motion for it, and then have four/five people second the motion.

Where should I motion it, and will you guys support the motion?


Not sure, to be honest. Best asking one of the admins where the best place for it would be.

I would support it, yes.

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Postby The Licentian Isles » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:55 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Pesda wrote:Could any one tell me what the proper procedure for questioning the impartiality of a presiding officer is? I don't think that Nihl is being fair in only listing the speeches of four people that are for this confirmation in the OP of the voting thread.


So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.


Well, maybe you could consider that the outgoing Vice President (*points at himself*) would be a suitable candidate for making a speech too, especially since it may balance out the views in that speech area a little bit.

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Postby Ainin » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:00 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:
Pesda wrote:Where should I motion it, and will you guys support the motion?


Not sure, to be honest. Best asking one of the admins where the best place for it would be.

I would support it, yes.

PM thread is the place.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:02 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.


Well, maybe you could consider that the outgoing Vice President (*points at himself*) would be a suitable candidate for making a speech too, especially since it may balance out the views in that speech area a little bit.


You can make one with your vote as stated in the OP of course. Although since the VP does not have any role in the appointing of the PM I would not consider it important enough to be listed. The same of course goes for Beta, the deputy PM and the candidate for deputy.

As I have said, it has nothing to do with views it is to do with the positions they hold. This is the same as in any other parliament when dealing with state matters such as the opening of parliament, speeches by heads of state and other matters such as budget day.
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Postby Pesda » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:06 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Pesda wrote:Could any one tell me what the proper procedure for questioning the impartiality of a presiding officer is? I don't think that Nihl is being fair in only listing the speeches of four people that are for this confirmation in the OP of the voting thread.


So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.

All four people going to say nice things about the proposed PM. You gave people who support "aye" a platform that you didn't give people who support "nay". This isn't impartial.
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I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:09 pm

Pesda wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.

All four people going to say nice things about the proposed PM. You gave people who support "aye" a platform that you didn't give people who support "nay". This isn't impartial.

If you saw my speech, I abstained, but you do have a point that I did not speak against the PM candidate per se. It would be appropriate for Nihil to let someone of that mindset do so.
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Postby HumanSanity » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:09 pm

Pesda wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.

All four people going to say nice things about the proposed PM. You gave people who support "aye" a platform that you didn't give people who support "nay". This isn't impartial.

PPUBA applies in the voting thread according to Nihil's own OP. Post and you shall receive seconds.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:10 pm

Pesda wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
So listing the two most important people from the last government and the incoming one is not impartial when they are from the two opposite coalitions is not impartial?

I did not have to let Ainin and MV make a prominent speech (I don't have to let any of you make a speech with your vote) since they are neither the candidate or the pesident proposing the candidate. I thought it would be a nice idea.

What they chose to write is up to them I just wanted to make sure both the old and new government had a chance to represent themselves as they were from different coalitions. If Ainin and MV don't agree with your view then that's not my fault. It's between you and them but I am sorry you feel that way.

All four people going to say nice things about the proposed PM. You gave people who support "aye" a platform that you didn't give people who support "nay". This isn't impartial.


when I decided this last week I did not know what they would do. If they have subsequently taken a position you don't agree with, that is something you need to take up with them not myself.
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Postby Pesda » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:16 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Pesda wrote:All four people going to say nice things about the proposed PM. You gave people who support "aye" a platform that you didn't give people who support "nay". This isn't impartial.

If you saw my speech, I abstained, but you do have a point that I did not speak against the PM candidate per se. It would be appropriate for Nihil to let someone of that mindset do so.

I know you abstained, but it's true that he gave people who are for more attention.
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Postby Pesda » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:19 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Pesda wrote:All four people going to say nice things about the proposed PM. You gave people who support "aye" a platform that you didn't give people who support "nay". This isn't impartial.


when I decided this last week I did not know what they would do. If they have subsequently taken a position you don't agree with, that is something you need to take up with them not myself.
I think you missed the point.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
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Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Pesda » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:25 pm

Okay, I sent the whip Tg to everyone. I will again be watching how you all vote, so be very afraid :twisted:
I expect a high turnout this time- it's important that we make our voices heard and that the new President loses this vote. I will see any rebels and I will ask them for an explanation.
Thank you, and happy voting.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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thats cool i like ireland
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Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby HumanSanity » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:26 pm

Pesda wrote:Okay, I sent the whip Tg to everyone. I will again be watching how you all vote, so be very afraid :twisted:
I expect a high turnout this time- it's important that we make our voices heard and that the new President loses this vote. I will see any rebels and I will ask them for an explanation.
Thank you, and happy voting.

Thank you Pesda.

We've already come out, keep it up guys!
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Postby Ceni » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:40 pm

Voted!
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Postby Pesda » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:53 pm

Ceni wrote:Voted!

Thanks.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
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Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:10 pm

Voted a strong NAY to the PM confirmation.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:47 pm

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Quebec and Atlantic Canada wrote:Voted a strong NAY to the PM confirmation.

Quebec and Atlantic Canada wrote:The Iron Party stands for fascism, dictatorship, totalitarianism, and the abolishment of all the rights and freedoms Aurentinians hold dear. Allowing Distruzio to take charge of the government will result in a new era of terror and tragedy not yet seen by our citizens! All Senators who stand for democracy, who stand for freedom in our country, I URGE you to vote NAY on the abhorrent nomination of Distruzio to the Premiership, lest you want a repeat of the German 1930s!

You do realise Distruzio isn't in the Iron Paty, correct? He's a CMP member. We've already got the ministries we want, you aren't affecting us at all by not voting for him.
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:18 pm

Quebec and Atlantic Canada wrote:Voted a strong NAY to the PM confirmation.


With respect, Senator, I'm curious to know why you think a vote for me would lead to a rise in nazism?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:19 pm

Distruzio wrote:[With respect, Senator, I'm curious to know why you think a vote for me would lead to a rise in nazism?

See above.

I think he somehw got the impression you're in the Iron Party.
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Postby Pesda » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:46 am

Quebec and Atlantic Canada wrote:Voted a strong NAY to the PM confirmation.

Thank you.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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thats cool i like ireland
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Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Pesda » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:08 am

Unicario wrote:
Unicario wrote:I vote NAY on this Prime Minister due to his coalition's continued support for the fascists.


I change my vote to ABSTAIN, since Distruzio represents one of the more moderate Senator choices for Prime Minister.


Oh dear.
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Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Postby Unicario » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:21 am

Pesda wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I change my vote to ABSTAIN, since Distruzio represents one of the more moderate Senator choices for Prime Minister.


Oh dear.


Unless I'm mistaken, party policy is that whips are one-line. It was never specified what kind of whip it was. If the Chairman has an issue with my abstaining, he may inform me personally.

Frankly, I'd much rather have a libertarian monarchist as my Prime Minister, than a fascist. With Distruzio, perhaps we can cooperate better than if we got a godforsaken Fascist.

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Postby New federation janistan » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:23 am

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