The National Liberal Party HQ [NSG Senate]

[Lamaredia]

I still feel like it should be 57.5%, like the Swedish system.

As stated before, I wouldn't go further than 40% (and that's like lowering my standards in taxation). But, it doesn't really matter at this point because a compromise has been reached in the budget debate

Why wouldn't you want to go higher than that?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

As stated before, I wouldn't go further than 40% (and that's like lowering my standards in taxation). But, it doesn't really matter at this point because a compromise has been reached in the budget debate

Why wouldn't you want to go higher than that?

Are we in massive debt? No. Are we having a huge deficit? No. I don't see why we should have such high rates; I am a person who believes in what Mr. Thomas Jefferson said about government.
But, as I said before, I don't see why are we wasting our energies debating about a tax rate, knowing that another one has been decided on.

[Lamaredia]

Why wouldn't you want to go higher than that?

Are we in massive debt? No. Are we having a huge deficit? No. I don't see why we should have such high rates; I am a person who believes in what Mr. Thomas Jefferson said about government.
But, as I said before, I don't see why are we wasting our energies debating about a tax rate, knowing that another one has been decided on.

Sweden isn't in a massive debt, nor a huge deficit, but we pay this amount because we have a much higher standard of living than the US haves. Even if you pay 57.5% in taxes you can still live fairly luxurious.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Are we in massive debt? No. Are we having a huge deficit? No. I don't see why we should have such high rates; I am a person who believes in what Mr. Thomas Jefferson said about government.
But, as I said before, I don't see why are we wasting our energies debating about a tax rate, knowing that another one has been decided on.

Sweden isn't in a massive debt, nor a huge deficit, but we pay this amount because we have a much higher standard of living than the US haves. Even if you pay 57.5% in taxes you can still live fairly luxurious.

Oh so that's the goal? Ok, how about if we have a 90% tax rate so we can buy mansions to everyone?

[New Corenea]

58%? Yout're only getting 42 cents a dollar. Rich people can't create jobs on just 42 cents a dollar

[Lamaredia]

58%? Yout're only getting 42 cents a dollar. Rich people can't create jobs on just 42 cents a dollar

Read up on Sweden's economy (Which is better than the US per capita) and then get back to me on how they can't create jobs.

[Lamaredia]

Sweden isn't in a massive debt, nor a huge deficit, but we pay this amount because we have a much higher standard of living than the US haves. Even if you pay 57.5% in taxes you can still live fairly luxurious.

Oh so that's the goal? Ok, how about if we have a 90% tax rate so we can buy mansions to everyone?

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but that has nothing to do with what I said at all. Why are you trying to mimic the american model, when the Swedish model is proven to be marginally better? We pay more taxes, but we have better lives. The rich should pay high taxes, and the poor should pay lower. That's just how it is.

EDIT: I'm going to bed.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Oh so that's the goal? Ok, how about if we have a 90% tax rate so we can buy mansions to everyone?

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but that has nothing to do with what I said at all. Why are you trying to mimic the american model, when the Swedish model is proven to be marginally better? We pay more taxes, but we have better lives. The rich should pay high taxes, and the poor should pay lower. That's just how it is.

EDIT: I'm going to bed.

Luxury, Senator, is not a basic right. I am sorry to give you this harsh reality.
Anyway, like I said before, I am not settling for anything higher than 40%. I am guessing we are talking at this point about party platform, because I just would like to remind everyone that a compromise has been reached.

[Lamaredia]

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but that has nothing to do with what I said at all. Why are you trying to mimic the american model, when the Swedish model is proven to be marginally better? We pay more taxes, but we have better lives. The rich should pay high taxes, and the poor should pay lower. That's just how it is.

EDIT: I'm going to bed.

Luxury, Senator, is not a basic right. I am sorry to give you this harsh reality.
Anyway, like I said before, I am not settling for anything higher than 40%. I am guessing we are talking at this point about party platform, because I just would like to remind everyone that a compromise has been reached.

If we can get a stable economy with good standards of living for everyone, then why shouldn't we aim for it? Why settle for less, when we can have more?

[New Corenea]

Conveniently looking over the unemployment rate bigger than America and also looking over that Sweden is a welfare state that still implemented market economy.
It can also be that the population of Sweden is small at around 10 million while America have around 300 million.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Luxury, Senator, is not a basic right. I am sorry to give you this harsh reality.
Anyway, like I said before, I am not settling for anything higher than 40%. I am guessing we are talking at this point about party platform, because I just would like to remind everyone that a compromise has been reached.

If we can get a stable economy with good standards of living for everyone, then why shouldn't we aim for it? Why settle for less, when we can have more?

I am not saying that there shouldn't be high standards of living, luxury and good standards of living are completely different things, sir. 40% no more, that's my position.

[New Corenea]

Me too. Up to 40% is my highest, nothing more.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Me too. Up to 40% is my highest, nothing more.

Thank you Senator I am glad that this party has members that truly believe in low taxation.
With that said, I would like to request the Chairman that this party has a debate about its current platform in the area of taxation.

[New Corenea]

We're like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz in a Mccain dominated Republican Party

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

We're like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz in a Mccain dominated Republican Party

I know right?

[New Corenea]

We're like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz in a Mccain dominated Republican Party

I know right?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I know right?

[New Corenea]

You know, can we BE any more like Joey and Chandler from Friends

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

You know, can we BE any more like Joey and Chandler from Friends

I don't really watch that show

[Battlion]

The current party policy in brief terms is the lowest amount of taxation required unless demand requires higher, I see this is a balance.

Finally regarding the Sweden discussion, I go along the principle of if you want nice things provided by government you need to pay for them.

[New Corenea]

Go to youtube and look up friends joey and chandler. One of the best buds ever!

[Battlion]

Also, can we keep on topic

Not on TV shows

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Go to youtube and look up friends joey and chandler. One of the best buds ever!

I watched a video. We should be them!

[New Corenea]

I got one, if you want luxury, you have to pay for it yourself.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I got one, if you want luxury, you have to pay for it yourself.

Exactly. Luxury should not be a right, but a privilege. Luxury is not in the "good/excellent standards of living"; let's not get both terms intertwined.