The National Liberal Party HQ [NSG Senate]

[The Nihilistic view]

May I just say, this is the end of the matter.

If you want to discuss it further TG me, now let's get back to discussing the proposals.

Debate will end on the 13th, that is plenty of time I think we're agreed on that?

So, the third proposal I have not looked into like the first two, I had to work yesterday so could not be on much. but I do think from what I have seen It is a better way of making sure most of the money is spent on what it was intended for.

[Battlion]

May I just say, this is the end of the matter.

If you want to discuss it further TG me, now let's get back to discussing the proposals.

Debate will end on the 13th, that is plenty of time I think we're agreed on that?

So, the third proposal I have not looked into like the first two, I had to work yesterday so could not be on much. but I do think from what I have seen It is a better way of making sure most of the money is spent on what it was intended for.

Exactly, whilst also cutting down the administration budget of welfare by moving systems online.

[The Nihilistic view]

So, the third proposal I have not looked into like the first two, I had to work yesterday so could not be on much. but I do think from what I have seen It is a better way of making sure most of the money is spent on what it was intended for.

Exactly, whilst also cutting down the administration budget of welfare by moving systems online.

After reading the posts on the last few pages, really I can't think of anything useful to add that has not already been said.

EDIT: It just remains to discuss specifics such as what products/shops should be barred on the card.

[Battlion]

•100 per cent blocked EBT cards from being used in casinos
•40 per cent blocked other types of gaming businesses, including
poker rooms, bingo halls and horse or dog tracks
•40 per cent blocked adult entertainment clubs, massage
parlours, businesses that sell alcohol (night clubs, bars, saloons
or taverns), as well as bail bondsmen and tattoo or piercing
parlours, tobacco and cannabis shops
•20 per cent blocked cruise ships, firearms and ammunition
dealers, psychic readers and spas and salons

These are the figures for the EBT card used in the USA.

[The Nihilistic view]

•100 per cent blocked EBT cards from being used in casinos
•40 per cent blocked other types of gaming businesses, including
poker rooms, bingo halls and horse or dog tracks
•40 per cent blocked adult entertainment clubs, massage
parlours, businesses that sell alcohol (night clubs, bars, saloons
or taverns), as well as bail bondsmen and tattoo or piercing
parlours, tobacco and cannabis shops
•20 per cent blocked cruise ships, firearms and ammunition
dealers, psychic readers and spas and salons

These are the figures for the EBT card used in the USA.

So how can something be 40% blocked? Or is this 40% of states blocked its use for for betting on horses for example.

[Battlion]

•100 per cent blocked EBT cards from being used in casinos
•40 per cent blocked other types of gaming businesses, including
poker rooms, bingo halls and horse or dog tracks
•40 per cent blocked adult entertainment clubs, massage
parlours, businesses that sell alcohol (night clubs, bars, saloons
or taverns), as well as bail bondsmen and tattoo or piercing
parlours, tobacco and cannabis shops
•20 per cent blocked cruise ships, firearms and ammunition
dealers, psychic readers and spas and salons

These are the figures for the EBT card used in the USA.

So how can something be 40% blocked? Or is this 40% of states blocked its use for for betting on horses for example.

States

[The Nihilistic view]

So how can something be 40% blocked? Or is this 40% of states blocked its use for for betting on horses for example.

States

Ok, well to my thinking everything mentioned above should be barred apart from Hair salons, a clean tidy appearance is crucial to making a good impression at a job interview. Everything else is just a luxury.

[Battlion]

States

Ok, well to my thinking everything mentioned above should be barred apart from Hair salons, a clean tidy appearance is crucial to making a good impression at a job interview. Everything else is just a luxury.

We don't have to block anything if we didn't want to but I thought it'd alleviate some fears over the UC...

Does anyone else have any comments?

[The Nihilistic view]

Ok, well to my thinking everything mentioned above should be barred apart from Hair salons, a clean tidy appearance is crucial to making a good impression at a job interview. Everything else is just a luxury.

We don't have to block anything if we didn't want to but I thought it'd alleviate some fears over the UC...

Does anyone else have any comments?

So if your not stopping people buy certain items with the money what is the point of the cards? Its just pointless bureaucracy then for the sake of it.

[New Corenea]

You know, I'm going to leave the NLP because I felt that it's becoming more as a party of government rather than the party of liberty. I'm going to join or create a different party that'll suit my interest.

[Seitonjin]

May I suggest policies regarding retirement age and education?

[The Nihilistic view]

May I suggest policies regarding retirement age and education?

Of course, I understand that Britt leadership style is for members to feel they can contribute and suggest ideas when ever they want. I am interested to hear your ideas.

[Battlion]

We don't have to block anything if we didn't want to but I thought it'd alleviate some fears over the UC...

Does anyone else have any comments?

So if your not stopping people buy certain items with the money what is the point of the cards? Its just pointless bureaucracy then for the sake of it.

Transition to digital and it is more cost effective, but really I do want to have those blocks in there.

You know, I'm going to leave the NLP because I felt that it's becoming more as a party of government rather than the party of liberty. I'm going to join or create a different party that'll suit my interest.

I am sad you are leaving us, I wish you the best of luck in all that you do.

May I suggest policies regarding retirement age and education?

Sure go ahead, I'll update one of the OP's to include current debates/discussions etc

[Seitonjin]

May I suggest policies regarding retirement age and education?

Of course, I understand that Britt leadership style is for members to feel they can contribute and suggest ideas when ever they want. I am interested to hear your ideas.

First up education, mainly because I am figuring out welfare bits for retirement and new blah.

I suggest something similar to Finland's education system. In this case, the teachers will be paid not only at the same ranks as doctors, they would be trained to be of the same rank. This also means the student will have an obligation to go to school to recieve this level of education.

Concerning the level. This form of education will cater the needs of the gifted and those that use alternative methods in order to learn. Now to make sure that every student does not feel left out, the student would be given the freedom to choose whether or not they want to stay in the regular curriculum or chose the other two. As I am not an expert at this and this is just a rough outline without sources I may use other methods.

Now this does mean that every student must go to school.

Universities? Not yet. I'll dabble on it later as well.

[The National Liberal Party]

Current Debates & Discussions
Please be aware that you may need to read further for any debate or discussion from the links provided.

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Citizens Dividend (Economic & Finance)
Young Aurentine Card (Youth)
Prepaid Benefit Cards/Universal Credit Amendments (Welfare)

Here is the current discussion/debate list, for now I want to cap it at 5 discussions/debates so we don't get clogged up.

Seitonjin, if you want me to add your proposals could you give me a name to put it under?

[The Nihilistic view]

So if your not stopping people buy certain items with the money what is the point of the cards? Its just pointless bureaucracy then for the sake of it.

Transition to digital and it is more cost effective, but really I do want to have those blocks in there.

It is not as secure when it comes to protecting personal information, in my mind the two have always canceled each other out. I think that including blocks would make it the first of its kind in the EU that I can think of off the top of my head.

[Seitonjin]

Current Debates & Discussions
Please be aware that you may need to read further for any debate or discussion from the links provided.

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Citizens Dividend (Economic & Finance)
Young Aurentine Card (Youth)
Prepaid Benefit Cards/Universal Credit Amendments (Welfare)

Here is the current discussion/debate list, for now I want to cap it at 5 discussions/debates so we don't get clogged up.

Seitonjin, if you want me to add your proposals could you give me a name to put it under?

There are three but the main on I want to be cleared up is Education.

Aurentine Educational Reforms.

[Battlion]

Transition to digital and it is more cost effective, but really I do want to have those blocks in there.

It is not as secure when it comes to protecting personal information, in my mind the two have always canceled each other out. I think that including blocks would make it the first of its kind in the EU that I can think of off the top of my head.

I'm not entirely sure on that, but it's a system the UK is currently consulting on rolling out for their new Universal Credit.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I hereby resign to my membership to the National Liberal Party. I would like to thank the respective authorities of the party for letting me be part of this political party. Adieu

[The Nihilistic view]

It is not as secure when it comes to protecting personal information, in my mind the two have always canceled each other out. I think that including blocks would make it the first of its kind in the EU that I can think of off the top of my head.

I'm not entirely sure on that, but it's a system the UK is currently consulting on rolling out for their new Universal Credit.

They won't do it though, too many votes are with those on benefits for that not to lose an election.

[Battlion]

I'm not entirely sure on that, but it's a system the UK is currently consulting on rolling out for their new Universal Credit.

They won't do it though, too many votes are with those on benefits for that not to lose an election.

Actually, I believe they would.

Whilst they have capped benefits already, they (like I do) believe this to be increasingly promising for a way of distributing benefits. It all depends on if the Department for Work and Pensions can get it done before 2015.

Doubt they'd lose an election for making the welfare system more sustainable.

I hereby resign to my membership to the National Liberal Party. I would like to thank the respective authorities of the party for letting me be part of this political party.

It's a shame, good luck in what you do.

[The Nihilistic view]

They won't do it though, too many votes are with those on benefits for that not to lose an election.

Actually, I believe they would.

Whilst they have capped benefits already, they (like I do) believe this to be increasingly promising for a way of distributing benefits. It all depends on if the Department for Work and Pensions can get it done before 2015.

Doubt they'd lose an election for making the welfare system more sustainable.

There are too many on welfare it became a large vote winner for Labour.

Back to the matter at hand I just thought, What if we make the Young aurentine card a national card for everyone that also acts as the benefit card? Halve the cost of the program and means the young who often have a much higher unemployment rate don't have to carry two cards around.

[Battlion]

Actually, I believe they would.

Whilst they have capped benefits already, they (like I do) believe this to be increasingly promising for a way of distributing benefits. It all depends on if the Department for Work and Pensions can get it done before 2015.

Doubt they'd lose an election for making the welfare system more sustainable.

There are too many on welfare it became a large vote winner for Labour.

Back to the matter at hand I just thought, What if we make the Young aurentine card a national card for everyone that also acts as the benefit card? Halve the cost of the program and means the young who often have a much higher unemployment rate don't have to carry two cards around.

It's an interesting concept, but then we would have to store more information on the young people and it would make it very confusing.

I'm not sure one card could have as many functions as we want, it'd simply be another card and I don't think it'd be too much of an issue to carry both

[Seitonjin]

(OMG YUS COMPUTER... I CAN SOURCE THINGS NAO >:3)

[The Nihilistic view]

There are too many on welfare it became a large vote winner for Labour.

Back to the matter at hand I just thought, What if we make the Young aurentine card a national card for everyone that also acts as the benefit card? Halve the cost of the program and means the young who often have a much higher unemployment rate don't have to carry two cards around.

It's an interesting concept, but then we would have to store more information on the young people and it would make it very confusing.

I'm not sure one card could have as many functions as we want, it'd simply be another card and I don't think it'd be too much of an issue to carry both

I don't know about more, it would be one database instead of two separate ones like it will e at the moment. Will there be an electronic chip in the Young Aurentine card?