NSG Senate Lobby: Up for a game of pool? [NSG Senate]

[Yanalia]

Budget discussion:

Wolf, you don't get to do whatever you want with the nation's money until the Senate says otherwise. The money is not used until the Senate decides to spend it.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Do we seriously have to run a defecit? We are spending 110,000,000,000 pounds on healthcare alone, surely there is room to cut

[Battlion]

Do we seriously have to run a defecit? We are spending 110,000,000,000 pounds on healthcare alone, surely there is room to cut

Yes, In Veterans Affairs for near enough non-existant veterans.

Budget discussion:

Wolf, you don't get to do whatever you want with the nation's money until the Senate says otherwise. The money is not used until the Senate decides to spend it.

Is there anywhere that says the Senate must approve? If we're going with a US style system we're never going to have a budget

[Yanalia]

Do we seriously have to run a defecit? We are spending 110,000,000,000 pounds on healthcare alone, surely there is room to cut

Yes, In Veterans Affairs for near enough non-existant veterans.

Budget discussion:

Wolf, you don't get to do whatever you want with the nation's money until the Senate says otherwise. The money is not used until the Senate decides to spend it.

Is there anywhere that says the Senate must approve? If we're going with a US style system we're never going to have a budget

There is nowhere that says the MoF decides.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Do we seriously have to run a defecit? We are spending 110,000,000,000 pounds on healthcare alone, surely there is room to cut

Yes, In Veterans Affairs for near enough non-existant veterans.

Budget discussion:

Wolf, you don't get to do whatever you want with the nation's money until the Senate says otherwise. The money is not used until the Senate decides to spend it.

Is there anywhere that says the Senate must approve? If we're going with a US style system we're never going to have a budget

Its better to start saving money for them now. Their pensions and benefits will be huge, and we can use the veterans fund like the SS fund in the USA: If any other major projects come up in other departments and we are running a surplus or our expenses arnt great we can transfer funds out of it.

Besides, dont our few veterans deserve some respect?

[Fulflood]

For your convenience:

TOTAL INCOME: £365,348,883,819
TOTAL SPEND: £627,442,350,503 (170.8% of income)

£201,221,789,120 (Work) 32.3%
£117,208,403,094 (Health) 18.8%
£98,927,717,842 (Education) 27.1%
£35,982,987,974 (Infrastructure) 5.7%
£32,345,678,321 (Justice) 5.2%
£28,786,212,672 (Energy) 4.6%
£27,567,232,312 (Infrastructure) 4.4%
£26,456,782,634 (Transport) 4.2%
£18,567,289,258 (Commerce) 3.0%
£14,886,400,927 (Defence) 2.4%
£9,101,807,289 (International Development) 1.5%
£8,767,456,641 (Veteran Affairs) 1.4%
£3,452,678,245 (Business Safety) 0.5%
£1,578,342,863 (Foreign Affairs) 0.2%
£1,567,891,312 (Environment) 0.2%
£1,023,679,999 (Research) 0.2%

Hideous Environment budget IMHO. I also don't know how 3 months worth of veterans get £9bn, but there you go.

Overall though, I like it. Admittedly, I think too much on defence, but I'm always going to think that. I assume one of the infrastructures is Law and Order, is it?

[Yanalia]

For your convenience:

TOTAL SPEND: £365,348,883,819

£201,221,789,120 (Work) 55.1%
£117,208,403,094 (Health) 32.1%
£98,927,717,842 (Education) 27.1%
£35,982,987,974 (Infrastructure) 9.8%
£32,345,678,321 (Justice) 8.9%
£28,786,212,672 (Energy) 7.9%
£27,567,232,312 (Infrastructure) 7.5%
£26,456,782,634 (Transport) 7.2%
£18,567,289,258 (Commerce) 5.1%
£14,886,400,927 (Defence) 4.1%
£9,101,807,289 (International Development) 2.5%
£8,767,456,641 (Veteran Affairs) 2.4%
£3,452,678,245 (Business Safety) 0.9%
£1,578,342,863 (Foreign Affairs) 0.4%
£1,567,891,312 (Environment) 0.4%
£1,023,679,999 (Research) 0.3%

Hideous Environment budget IMHO. I also don't know how 3 months worth of veterans get £9bn, but there you go.

This. Environment and Research need more. Veterans' less.

[Aeken]

For your convenience:

TOTAL SPEND: £365,348,883,819

£201,221,789,120 (Work) 55.1%
£117,208,403,094 (Health) 32.1%
£98,927,717,842 (Education) 27.1%
£35,982,987,974 (Infrastructure) 9.8%
£32,345,678,321 (Justice) 8.9%
£28,786,212,672 (Energy) 7.9%
£27,567,232,312 (Infrastructure) 7.5%
£26,456,782,634 (Transport) 7.2%
£18,567,289,258 (Commerce) 5.1%
£14,886,400,927 (Defence) 4.1%
£9,101,807,289 (International Development) 2.5%
£8,767,456,641 (Veteran Affairs) 2.4%
£3,452,678,245 (Business Safety) 0.9%
£1,578,342,863 (Foreign Affairs) 0.4%
£1,567,891,312 (Environment) 0.4%
£1,023,679,999 (Research) 0.3%

Hideous Environment budget IMHO. I also don't know how 3 months worth of veterans get £9bn, but there you go.

Exactly my thought as well.

[Byzantium Imperial]

For your convenience:

TOTAL SPEND: £365,348,883,819

£201,221,789,120 (Work) 55.1%
£117,208,403,094 (Health) 32.1%
£98,927,717,842 (Education) 27.1%
£35,982,987,974 (Infrastructure) 9.8%
£32,345,678,321 (Justice) 8.9%
£28,786,212,672 (Energy) 7.9%
£27,567,232,312 (Infrastructure) 7.5%
£26,456,782,634 (Transport) 7.2%
£18,567,289,258 (Commerce) 5.1%
£14,886,400,927 (Defence) 4.1%
£9,101,807,289 (International Development) 2.5%
£8,767,456,641 (Veteran Affairs) 2.4%
£3,452,678,245 (Business Safety) 0.9%
£1,578,342,863 (Foreign Affairs) 0.4%
£1,567,891,312 (Environment) 0.4%
£1,023,679,999 (Research) 0.3%

Hideous Environment budget IMHO. I also don't know how 3 months worth of veterans get £9bn, but there you go.

This. Environment and Research need more. Veterans' less.

We can cut veterans in half or more down to 4 bil. I also think that we can cut down on health and use the funds to boost research

[Battlion]

Foreign Affairs at 0.4% is shameful, especially if we want to meet the 0.7% Foreign Aid target the Alliance set.

[Fulflood]

Foreign Affairs at 0.4% is shameful, especially if we want to meet the 0.7% Foreign Aid target the Alliance set.

Look under International Development.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Foreign Affairs at 0.4% is shameful, especially if we want to meet the 0.7% Foreign Aid target the Alliance set.

Wait, when did we set this? I never agreed to sneding foreign aide when we are a brand new country

[Battlion]

Foreign Affairs at 0.4% is shameful, especially if we want to meet the 0.7% Foreign Aid target the Alliance set.

Look under International Development.

We need to stop making overlapping ministries...

If we take 0.7% out of ID that brings it below Veterans Affairs despite there being no veterans.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Look under International Development.

We need to stop making overlapping ministries...

If we take 0.7% out of ID that brings it below Veterans Affairs despite there being no veterans.

Nonsense. If there are no veterans, then why am i already incurring massive costs?

[Welsh Cowboy]

Am I being dumb, or does Work get a lot of money? What are they using it for? (Again, I could be forgetting something)

And we have 0 veterans. Sure, put some aside. But that number should be in the 6 figures.

[Battlion]

Definition of Veteran: A person who has had long experience in a particular field, esp. military service: "a veteran of two world wars".

One year is a long experience?

[Yanalia]

Definition of Veteran: A person who has had long experience in a particular field, esp. military service: "a veteran of two world wars".

One year is a long experience?

You mean 3 months.

[Byzantium Imperial]

We will soon have veterans. While we dont need 8 billion, its good to set aside a good amount now. The current proposals for veterans benefits means our budget aint going to be Foreign affairs cheap

[Battlion]

We will soon have veterans. While we dont need 8 billion, its good to set aside a good amount now. The current proposals for veterans benefits means our budget aint going to be Foreign affairs cheap

Why, are we going to war or suddenly jumping through time?

[Yanalia]

We will soon have veterans. While we dont need 8 billion, its good to set aside a good amount now. The current proposals for veterans benefits means our budget aint going to be Foreign affairs cheap

We're setting aside 8 billion dollars?

[Fulflood]

'ang abaat. We seem to have 170.8% of the budget.

[Welsh Cowboy]

Am I being dumb, or does Work get a lot of money? What are they using it for? (Again, I could be forgetting something)

[Wolfmanne]

I'm cutting Veteran's by £7,000,000. You can also presume that we have veterans who served in the British Armed Forces whilst Aurentina was under British control.

[Byzantium Imperial]

We will soon have veterans. While we dont need 8 billion, its good to set aside a good amount now. The current proposals for veterans benefits means our budget aint going to be Foreign affairs cheap

We're setting aside 8 billion dollars?

The original budget had 8 billion pounds.... as minister of Veteran affairs, i admit i dont need anywhere that much money. Maybe 1.2 billion will do fine unless we have a war soon (warplans are all ready by the way, accesible to the president)

[Battlion]

We're setting aside 8 billion dollars?

The original budget had 8 billion pounds.... as minister of Veteran affairs, i admit i dont need anywhere that much money. Maybe 1.2 billion will do fine unless we have a war soon (warplans are all ready by the way, accesible to the president)

1.2 Billion?

We need something in the hundreds of thousands, 3 month veterans they're not even veterans by definition.

I also think it is dangerous for the government to be running a deficit and seem to be willing to do so...