NSG Senate Lobby: Up for a game of pool? [NSG Senate]

[Maklohi Vai]

Thank you for clearing that up. I agree that he should have posted his ban history in his app, but a TG is better than nothing.

And still acceptable. Ugh. Wish Malokhi Vai would un-excuse himself from the argument and just end this all.

*recuse

Definition of recuse: Excuse oneself from a case because of a possible conflict of interest or lack of impartiality.

The conflict of interest is that I'm the admin who originally accepted him.

I mean to say that in your original application, you did not disclose your ban history.

Ah, I understand now. Should I have mentioned it? I guess so.

Yes, you should have.

[Bodobol]

Well said my fellow Senator!

Thanks, Val. I'm also a bit sad about how you never posted on the Napoleon RP. But thank you. Who else is with me? I'm all for taking useless horsecrap and arguing out of the government.

I just find it unfair that Ikania has been denied acceptance into the NSG Senate. Yes, he did have a DEAT, but MV knew this and still accepted him. And for those who don't believe Ikania is Mojave, I have previously vouched for him.

[Great Nepal]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

[The Republic of Llamas]

Yurp. We should re-write the rules for clarity.

OH and off topic : Hi Llamas! What party are you in?

PC. Hi! Napoleon was re-booted again, here in case you want to join: dft.ba/-Napoleon

Who else says scrw an individual vote and wants to let Ikania re-apply after two weeks?

[Ikania]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

Thank you Nepal. Now, can I join? Or can I not?

[Fulflood]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

I personally disagree.

[Bodobol]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

I completely agree with you.

[Valentir]

It is clear we have to do a lot of reforms after this election. So many damn loopholes........

[Maklohi Vai]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

I personally disagree.

On the first or second sentence?

[Battlion]

I think the admins need to clarify their rules, over the last few things so many things have been brought into question.

So I ask nicely that the admins convene and actually AGREE on rules instead of waiting for problems to happen and then lead to things like this.

[Jetan]

It is clear we have to do a lot of reforms after this election. So many damn loopholes........

Agreed.

[Ainin]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

But the DEAT was the result of a single instance of moderator action, which was a 24hr ban for spamming TET, and then unknowingly posting with a puppet.

Some people here have some awful records, but have never been DEATed, and making a fuss over this one is just plain unfair.

[Great Nepal]

I think the admins need to clarify their rules, over the last few things so many things have been brought into question.

So I ask nicely that the admins convene and actually AGREE on rules instead of waiting for problems to happen and then lead to things like this.

It is not needed, these kind of incidents happen rarely and when they do we manage to agree on it.

[The Republic of Llamas]

It is clear we have to do a lot of reforms after this election. So many damn loopholes........

Join me in writing reform bills, my friend! After the way I revitalized my new region of Nesapo, let's see if I can do it with Aurentina...

OOC: I choose a new name for my senator; Henry Clay. 'Cause I like that guy a lot, all with the compromises that almost prevented 700,000 deaths, plus there's the American System.

[Ikania]

I think the admins need to clarify their rules, over the last few things so many things have been brought into question.

So I ask nicely that the admins convene and actually AGREE on rules instead of waiting for problems to happen and then lead to things like this.

It is not needed, these kind of incidents happen rarely and when they do we manage to agree on it.

... Even though there are two of these incidents at debate right now.

[Valentir]

It is clear we have to do a lot of reforms after this election. So many damn loopholes........

Join me in writing reform bills, my friend! After the way I revitalized my new region of Nesapo, let's see if I can do it with Aurentina...

OOC: I choose a new name for my senator; Henry Clay. 'Cause I like that guy a lot, all with the compromises that almost prevented 700,000 deaths, plus there's the American System.

Never written a bill before. I guess I can help.

[Great Nepal]

I am going to change my vote to allow him, MV knew about the DEAT and accepted him. That decision should stand although with note that no one with DEAT should be accepted in future.

But the DEAT was the result of a single instance of moderator action, which was a 24hr ban for spamming TET, and then unknowingly posting with a puppet.

Some people here have some awful records, but have never been DEATed, and making a fuss over this one is just plain unfair.

For me, DEAT is equivalent to being sentenced to life in prison but being released on parole. That one record overshadows everything else, except hanging (DoS).

[Great Nepal]

It is not needed, these kind of incidents happen rarely and when they do we manage to agree on it.

... Even though there are two of these incidents at debate right now.

No, there is one.
No one took suggestion that people shouldn't be allowed to change vote seriously.

[Ikania]

But the DEAT was the result of a single instance of moderator action, which was a 24hr ban for spamming TET, and then unknowingly posting with a puppet.

Some people here have some awful records, but have never been DEATed, and making a fuss over this one is just plain unfair.

For me, DEAT is equivalent to being sentenced to life in prison but being released on parole. That one record overshadows everything else, except hanging (DoS).

DoS is denial of service, right? Your ip could be blocked from NS?

[Bodobol]

But the DEAT was the result of a single instance of moderator action, which was a 24hr ban for spamming TET, and then unknowingly posting with a puppet.

Some people here have some awful records, but have never been DEATed, and making a fuss over this one is just plain unfair.

For me, DEAT is equivalent to being sentenced to life in prison but being released on parole. That one record overshadows everything else, except hanging (DoS).

Except that's not everyone's definition.

And I take back what I said about agreeing with you on the DEAT'ing. I think the overall record and offenses should matter more than the DEAT.

[Bodobol]

For me, DEAT is equivalent to being sentenced to life in prison but being released on parole. That one record overshadows everything else, except hanging (DoS).

DoS is denial of service, right? Your ip could be blocked from NS?

Delete on Sight. Same thing.

[Ikania]

DoS is denial of service, right? Your ip could be blocked from NS?

Delete on Sight. Same thing.

Oh. So, lemme classify.
Warning: Ticket.
Forumban: Holding Cell.
Long Forumban: Jail time.
Delete: Life Sentence.
DoS: 100,000 Bounty.

[Ainin]

But the DEAT was the result of a single instance of moderator action, which was a 24hr ban for spamming TET, and then unknowingly posting with a puppet.

Some people here have some awful records, but have never been DEATed, and making a fuss over this one is just plain unfair.

For me, DEAT is equivalent to being sentenced to life in prison but being released on parole. That one record overshadows everything else, except hanging (DoS).

That's a completely arbitrary scale.

Take, for example...

Person A has gotten 2 7-day bans in 2 years for flaming.
Person B got a 6hr ban for spamming moderation, and was DEATed for asking what he did wrong.

Is person A or B a worse offender?

[The Republic of Llamas]

Join me in writing reform bills, my friend! After the way I revitalized my new region of Nesapo, let's see if I can do it with Aurentina...

OOC: I choose a new name for my senator; Henry Clay. 'Cause I like that guy a lot, all with the compromises that almost prevented 700,000 deaths, plus there's the American System.

Never written a bill before. I guess I can help.

Let's do this. *Puts on cool shades* There needs to be a smiley for that...

[Maklohi Vai]

Never written a bill before. I guess I can help.

Let's do this. *Puts on cool shades* There needs to be a smiley for that...

There is