NSG Senate Lobby: Up for a game of pool? [NSG Senate]

[Neo Rome Republic]

LGBT rights are a real problem. Gay people don't "think" that they're facing problems. They are facing problems.

And they are trying to force the general population to think like them. Which is what in my opinion creates all those problems. Not to mention the saying that they are biggots and so on does notting to help them.

Wanting to give someone else rights, and to be treated fairly.=/= Forced to think like them.
What's wrong with them, calling the people who want to deny them rights, bigots.
They're simply calling them, for what they ware.

[Britanno]

You know we keep telling them that, but do Conservatives ever actually listen?

That's an awful generalisation. There are many types of conservatism that allow you to support LGBTQ rights.

[Inspector Walter deGroot]

You know we keep telling them that, but do Conservatives ever actually listen?

That's an awful generalisation. There are many types of conservatism that allow you to support LGBTQ rights.

I think he meant social conservatives.

[Neo Rome Republic]

That's an awful generalisation. There are many types of conservatism that allow you to support LGBTQ rights.

I think he meant social conservatives.

Yep Social Conservatives, especially the one's that Can't-Seperate-Their-Religion-from-Politics, Social Conservatives.
I don't feel very bothered or irritated, by Progressive or Liberal Conservatives.

[The Nihilistic view]

Well go and tell that to the world and see how many hearts and minds you change.

So would you support the use of "that's so black" as a statement? There's nothing inherently different about LGBT rights.

Depends how its used, if a white man comes into a room covered in "bling" with a "gangsta" walk talking like he is from the "hood" then the phrase "that's so black" would be an accurate description of what the white man was doing. He was behaving like a black gangsta. Or for example "that's so black" when looking at something coloured black.

When it becomes racist would be if a white man committed a rape and somebody said "that's so black" about the act. That would be a racist stereotype.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

And they are trying to force the general population to think like them. Which is what in my opinion creates all those problems. Not to mention the saying that they are biggots and so on does notting to help them.

Wanting to give someone else rights, and to be treated fairly.=/= Forced to think like them.
What's wrong with them, calling the people who want to deny them rights, bigots.
They're simply calling them, for what they ware.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. And according to me they should do what they want. But i do not support nor will i ever support ralies and so on. For me it is wrong to do that.
And becase it is such their opinion for me they have all the rights they need. I do not see a right that is prohibited on them.

[Inspector Walter deGroot]

You know what fun event we've never had? A hostage crisis.

[Beta Test]

You know what fun event we've never had? A hostage crisis.

I wanna be the victim!

[Britanno]

You know what fun event we've never had? A hostage crisis.

We almost did with Guy Britanno's family, but thankfully they were rescued.

[Belmaria]

You know what fun event we've never had? A hostage crisis.

We almost did with Guy Britanno's family, but thankfully they were rescued.

At the expense of Guy Britanno...

[The Nihilistic view]

You know what fun event we've never had? A hostage crisis.

We almost did with Guy Britanno's family, but thankfully they were rescued.

Yeah by Guy sacrificing himself, not because of the good work of the police. Although is the taking hostage of a sitting president's family not a hostage crisis?

[Britanno]

At the expense of Guy Britanno...

I hear he rise to create as little mess as possible.

[Geilinor]

So would you support the use of "that's so black" as a statement? There's nothing inherently different about LGBT rights.

Depends how its used, if a white man comes into a room covered in "bling" with a "gangsta" walk talking like he is from the "hood" then the phrase "that's so black" would be an accurate description of what the white man was doing. He was behaving like a black gangsta.

But why use a phrase that generalizes an entire group of people in the first place?

[Geilinor]

Wanting to give someone else rights, and to be treated fairly.=/= Forced to think like them.
What's wrong with them, calling the people who want to deny them rights, bigots.
They're simply calling them, for what they ware.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. And according to me they should do what they want. But i do not support nor will i ever support ralies and so on. For me it is wrong to do that.
And becase it is such their opinion for me they have all the rights they need. I do not see a right that is prohibited on them.

In some places, they have all their rights. Such as in Aurentina. In many places, they don't have freedom from discrimination, the right to get their relationships recognized and to get the legal benefits that go along with that, the right to joint adoptions, etc.

[Inspector Walter deGroot]

I was thinking of like something from Flashpoint (a great show, by the way), where a crazy man takes folks hostage, and the tensions escalate to the point a police sniper has to kill the troubled man.

[The Nihilistic view]

Depends how its used, if a white man comes into a room covered in "bling" with a "gangsta" walk talking like he is from the "hood" then the phrase "that's so black" would be an accurate description of what the white man was doing. He was behaving like a black gangsta.

But why use a phrase that generalizes an entire group of people in the first place?

Because its easier than writing an essay an the subject. People joke around you know, its quite normal.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

In some places, they have all their rights. Such as in Aurentina. In many places, they don't have freedom from discrimination, the right to get their relationships recognized and to get the legal benefits that go along with that, the right to joint adoptions, etc.

First it was an OOC statement. Where i live they have all the rights they need to have from civil liberties. The right to marry is not prohibited but there is no legal standing for such a marriage. Also over 70% of the general population is against that. Not to mention about adoptions. Even more is against that.
About discrimation you can not tell a person what to think. He finds it repulsive and you can not make him like it. EVER. No law will prevent someone from disliking that act. They are free to do what they like in their private life. I only hate becase they are intrisive in the lifes of people. I know of casses where my friends have been hit on by gays or lesbians and despite their addement no they always got like you are such a biggot for not even trying. That makes it for people to be even more repulsive. I have always said do what you want but never interfere in the life of someone like they do.
Also i have heard of situations about LGBT groops teaching children that they are free to choise their own sex? WHAT? That is something I WILL NEVER put up with in life. The gennes and sex are given to you from birth. No way around that.
And least. They can not make people like what they are doing. And by endless attemts to try and make them think people are becoming even more repulsive.

[Geilinor]

In some places, they have all their rights. Such as in Aurentina. In many places, they don't have freedom from discrimination, the right to get their relationships recognized and to get the legal benefits that go along with that, the right to joint adoptions, etc.

First it was an OOC statement. Where i live they have all the rights they need to have from civil liberties. The right to marry is not prohibited but there is no legal standing for such a marriage. Also over 70% of the general population is against that. Not to mention about adoptions. Even more is against that.
About discrimation you can not tell a person what to think. He finds it repulsive and you can not make him like it. EVER. No law will prevent someone from disliking that act. They are free to do what they like in their private life. I only hate becase they are intrisive in the lifes of people. I know of casses where my friends have been hit on by gays or lesbians and despite their addement no they always got like you are such a biggot for not even trying. That makes it for people to be even more repulsive. I have always said do what you want but never interfere in the life of someone like they do.
Also i have heard of situations about LGBT groops teaching children that they are free to choise their own sex? WHAT? That is something I WILL NEVER put up with in life. The gennes and sex are given to you from birth. No way around that.
.

1. Where you live? You've said that you live in Macedonia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia
2. You can't force a person to think a certain way, but you can try to educate them about your cause.
3. You're going to need evidence about intrusions into the lives of others. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count for much. Anecdotes can be made up.
4. Your friends could have said what their sexual orientations were.
5. Gender reassignment surgery exists.

[Geilinor]

But why use a phrase that generalizes an entire group of people in the first place?

Because its easier than writing an essay an the subject. People joke around you know, its quite normal.

Try jokes not based on generalizations and misconceptions next time, okay?

[Neo Rome Republic]

In some places, they have all their rights. Such as in Aurentina. In many places, they don't have freedom from discrimination, the right to get their relationships recognized and to get the legal benefits that go along with that, the right to joint adoptions, etc.

First it was an OOC statement. Where i live they have all the rights they need to have from civil liberties. The right to marry is not prohibited but there is no legal standing for such a marriage. Also over 70% of the general population is against that. Not to mention about adoptions. Even more is against that.
About discrimation you can not tell a person what to think. He finds it repulsive and you can not make him like it. EVER. No law will prevent someone from disliking that act. They are free to do what they like in their private life. I only hate becase they are intrisive in the lifes of people. I know of casses where my friends have been hit on by gays or lesbians and despite their addement no they always got like you are such a biggot for not even trying. That makes it for people to be even more repulsive. I have always said do what you want but never interfere in the life of someone like they do.
Also i have heard of situations about LGBT groops teaching children that they are free to choise their own sex? WHAT? That is something I WILL NEVER put up with in life. The gennes and sex are given to you from birth. No way around that.
And least. They can not make people like what they are doing. And by endless attemts to try and make them think people are becoming even more repulsive.

I was right, the Conservatives are getting angry about gay marriage, this calls for a celebration!!! BOOZE FOR EVERYONE!!!

[The Nihilistic view]

Because its easier than writing an essay an the subject. People joke around you know, its quite normal.

Try jokes not based on generalizations and misconceptions next time, okay?

But that's so.....................

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[Geilinor]

First it was an OOC statement. Where i live they have all the rights they need to have from civil liberties. The right to marry is not prohibited but there is no legal standing for such a marriage. Also over 70% of the general population is against that. Not to mention about adoptions. Even more is against that.
About discrimation you can not tell a person what to think. He finds it repulsive and you can not make him like it. EVER. No law will prevent someone from disliking that act. They are free to do what they like in their private life. I only hate becase they are intrisive in the lifes of people. I know of casses where my friends have been hit on by gays or lesbians and despite their addement no they always got like you are such a biggot for not even trying. That makes it for people to be even more repulsive. I have always said do what you want but never interfere in the life of someone like they do.
Also i have heard of situations about LGBT groops teaching children that they are free to choise their own sex? WHAT? That is something I WILL NEVER put up with in life. The gennes and sex are given to you from birth. No way around that.
And least. They can not make people like what they are doing. And by endless attemts to try and make them think people are becoming even more repulsive.

I was right, the Conservatives are getting angry about gay marriage, this calls for a celebration!!! BOOZE FOR EVERYONE!!!

CHEERS!

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

1. Where you live? You've said that you live in Macedonia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia
2. You can't force a person to think a certain way, but you can try to educate them about your cause.
3. You're going to need evidence about intrusions into the lives of others. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count for much. Anecdotes can be made up.
4. Your friends could have said what their sexual orientations were.
5. Gender reassignment surgery exists.

1. As you can see for yourself i am not talking out of the blue. Myself always say that you can do what you like in your private life. Just do not try to force someone to like. And for me an attempt to try and make something like it is not is an attempt to force it. I do not care about gays and what they do. But i do mind if they try to interfere in my life.
If someone is gay we can be friends but i do not want to even think about something more.
2. A person already has developed its opinion. You only make him lose time and as such he does not want to even consider it.
3 and 4 are one and the same. The intrusion i mentioned is that. And they said that.
5. Exstremly against it. And that is what i will always be against in those rights as they call them.
That is my opinion. I accept yours and i do not attempt to make you change it. Don't try to do that with mine.

[Kamchastkia]

I was thinking of like something from Flashpoint (a great show, by the way), where a crazy man takes folks hostage, and the tensions escalate to the point a police sniper has to kill the troubled man.

The first episode of Flashpoint was probably the worst. Just saying.

[Belmaria]

1. Where you live? You've said that you live in Macedonia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia
2. You can't force a person to think a certain way, but you can try to educate them about your cause.
3. You're going to need evidence about intrusions into the lives of others. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count for much. Anecdotes can be made up.
4. Your friends could have said what their sexual orientations were.
5. Gender reassignment surgery exists.

1. As you can see for yourself i am not talking out of the blue. Myself always say that you can do what you like in your private life. Just do not try to force someone to like. And for me an attempt to try and make something like it is not is an attempt to force it. I do not care about gays and what they do. But i do mind if they try to interfere in my life.
If someone is gay we can be friends but i do not want to even think about something more.
2. A person already has developed its opinion. You only make him lose time and as such he does not want to even consider it.
3 and 4 are one and the same. The intrusion i mentioned is that. And they said that.
5. Exstremly against it. And that is what i will always be against in those rights as they call them.
That is my opinion. I accept yours and i do not attempt to make you change it. Don't try to do that with mine.

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