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Postby Belmaria » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:19 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Belmaria wrote:SINCE

WHEN

IS

GAY

A

FUCKING

INSULT?

Since the recorded 1800s

Source?
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Postby Aurentine Office of Corrections » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:23 pm

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Aurentine Office of Corrections wrote:Oh my god a fascist insulted me, I'm about to cry! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING! :P


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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:26 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Of course, who else uses that gay little flag.

SINCE

WHEN

IS

GAY

A

FUCKING

INSULT?


Since I decided his flag was merry.

Although can one really insult an inanimate object?
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:28 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Of course, who else uses that gay little flag.

SINCE

WHEN

IS

GAY

A

FUCKING

INSULT?

When a Fascist and/or Fascist sympathizer, says it is. :p
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:28 pm

Belmaria wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Of course, who else uses that gay little flag.

SINCE

WHEN

IS

GAY

A

FUCKING

INSULT?


Dependin on society the word gay can be considered an insult. For some it is for some is not. You can not change societies.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:34 pm

The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.

In the Anglosphere, this connotation, among younger speakers, has a derisive meaning equivalent to rubbish or stupid (as in "That's so gay."). In this use, the word does not mean "homosexual", so it can be used, for example, to refer to an inanimate object or abstract concept of which one disapproves. This usage can also refer to weakness or unmanliness. When used in these ways, the extent to which it still retains connotations of homosexuality has been debated and harshly criticized.[4][5]
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Postby Ainin » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:35 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:You can not change societies.

No, but it can change itself. Society is something that is in constant evolution.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:36 pm

I find it very disturbing if it's used as an insult. I would prefer if people refrained from using it in such a way.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:39 pm

Belmaria wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Since the recorded 1800s

Source?

A term becomes insulting when it gets used in an insulting manner. It isn't the kindest thing to refer to something you don't like as "gay". It implies that "gayness" is an inherently undesirable characteristic, which it is not.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:39 pm

Beta Test wrote:I find it very disturbing if it's used as an insult. I would prefer if people refrained from using it in such a way.

That's so gay.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:40 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Source?

A term becomes insulting when it gets used in an insulting manner.

It shifted from the 1800s, Faggot and queer to Homo, and currently Gay.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:40 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Beta Test wrote:I find it very disturbing if it's used as an insult. I would prefer if people refrained from using it in such a way.

That's so gay.


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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:41 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:That's so gay.


:bow:

Really?
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:42 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Beta Test wrote:I find it very disturbing if it's used as an insult. I would prefer if people refrained from using it in such a way.

That's so gay.

Again, implies that "gayness" is inherently undesirable. Identity terms shouldn't be used that way. It's the equivalent of saying "that's so black", which I'm sure only racists would be comfortable with.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:43 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:That's so gay.


:bow:

That's so conservative.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:43 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:That's so gay.

Again, implies that "gayness" is inherently undesirable. Identity terms shouldn't be used that way. It's the equivalent of saying "that's so black", which I'm sure only racists would be comfortable with.

Well go and tell that to the world and see how many hearts and minds you change.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:43 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
:bow:

That's so conservative.


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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:47 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Source?

A term becomes insulting when it gets used in an insulting manner. It isn't the kindest thing to refer to something you don't like as "gay". It implies that "gayness" is an inherently undesirable characteristic, which it is not.


Many people identify their sense of self with the problems they have, or think they have.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:49 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
:bow:

That's so conservative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHPltbD-4QA
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:50 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:A term becomes insulting when it gets used in an insulting manner. It isn't the kindest thing to refer to something you don't like as "gay". It implies that "gayness" is an inherently undesirable characteristic, which it is not.


Many people identify their sense of self with the problems they have, or think they have.

LGBT rights are a real problem. Gay people don't "think" that they're facing problems. They are facing problems.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:51 pm

I will say again it depends on the society. In here it has an undesiable characteristics.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Many people identify their sense of self with the problems they have, or think they have.

LGBT rights are a real problem. Gay people don't "think" that they're facing problems. They are facing problems.

You know we keep telling them that, but do Conservatives ever actually listen?
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:52 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Again, implies that "gayness" is inherently undesirable. Identity terms shouldn't be used that way. It's the equivalent of saying "that's so black", which I'm sure only racists would be comfortable with.

Well go and tell that to the world and see how many hearts and minds you change.

So would you support the use of "that's so black" as a statement? There's nothing inherently different about LGBT rights.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:54 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Many people identify their sense of self with the problems they have, or think they have.

LGBT rights are a real problem. Gay people don't "think" that they're facing problems. They are facing problems.


And they are trying to force the general population to think like them. Which is what in my opinion creates all those problems. Not to mention the saying that they are biggots and so on does notting to help them.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:56 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Many people identify their sense of self with the problems they have, or think they have.

LGBT rights are a real problem. Gay people don't "think" that they're facing problems. They are facing problems.


Like I said, You think you have a problem with the use of the word in a manner that has been shown above to have a use that has no homosexual connotations. There is no problem other than that which you seek to make.
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