NSG Senate Lobby: Up for a game of pool? [NSG Senate]

[Yanalia]

Nope.

Then what the hell is going on?

Some believe I will win because the USLP will support me in the second round.

[Britanno]

Prussia

To win the election, you can do it 2 ways:

1) Win round one by getting 50% + 1 of the vote.

2) If nobody gets 50% + 1 in the first round, the top 2 candidates from the first round will go head to head in the second round. The person who gets the most wins.


I currently have 49.5% of the vote, this is still round 1. If I can get 4 more votes without anybody else getting any, then I will have a majority. However, that is unlikely so it will most likely go to the second round, where the USLP are going to support Yanalia, so he will most likely win.

[Battlion]

Admins are saying different things, we won't allow someone who's been on nationstates more than a month but not the forum into this game yet we allow someone who hasn't been on the forum or the website a month with a story which we have no idea is true or not.

It's ridiculous and better rules need to be in place next election or even in general

[Uiiop]

Admins are saying different things, we won't allow someone who's been on nationstates more than a month but not the forum into this game yet we allow someone who hasn't been on the forum or the website a month with a story which we have no idea is true or not.

It's ridiculous and better rules need to be in place next election or even in general

The admins have spoken.

The admins cannot rule against these rules. It's not fair. They are not above the rules

But the rules have purpose. if the following the rules prevent them from serving their purpose then they should be ignored.
The point of the one month rule is to prevent newbies from joining and screwing the experience for everyone else.
The subject is NOT a newbie and if he is ejected then his experience is ruined.

[Battlion]

Admins are saying different things, we won't allow someone who's been on nationstates more than a month but not the forum into this game yet we allow someone who hasn't been on the forum or the website a month with a story which we have no idea is true or not.

It's ridiculous and better rules need to be in place next election or even in general

The admins cannot rule against these rules. It's not fair. They are not above the rules

But the rules have purpose. if the following the rules prevent them from serving their purpose then they should be ignored.
The point of the one month rule is to prevent newbies from joining and screwing the experience for everyone else.
The subject is NOT a newbie and if he is ejected then his experience is ruined.

Say that to the people who have been on the website longer than a month, well longer yet get rejected.

Yet this guy isn't, that isn't fair.

Follow the rules or don't place them

[Oneracon]

By that logic, Dublex's vote counts. He was admitted a month before but then rejected, but he was still a senator, right? And it's impossible to prove he's a fake. But we have a 1 month rule. We need multiple admins to decide, not just one biased toward Yanalia. I shouldn't post here, so I'll go to the lObby.

Rejected means no longer a Senator, so I think you answered your own questions.

And once again, Senator, may I remind you to stop assuming that everyone is out to get you.

[Uiiop]

But the rules have purpose. if the following the rules prevent them from serving their purpose then they should be ignored.
The point of the one month rule is to prevent newbies from joining and screwing the experience for everyone else.
The subject is NOT a newbie and if he is ejected then his experience is ruined.

1.Say that to the people who have been on the website longer than a month, well longer yet get rejected.

2.Yet this guy isn't, that isn't fair.

Follow the rules or don't place them

1. source? i'm pretty sure no one has been rejected like that. If there is evidence and they didn't break the other rules then that should be fixed.
2. I doubt 2 people would lie so much just to get in a RP. He probably has been on longer than a month. No one actually has got any evidence otherwise only conjecture.

[Britanno]

If the admins allow this, then what is to stop both sides creating these puppets and pretending to be ex players?

As for those who argue that it would take too much effort, I managed to find a nation in the boneyard within 10 seconds, so it's not that hard!

[Battlion]

1.Say that to the people who have been on the website longer than a month, well longer yet get rejected.

2.Yet this guy isn't, that isn't fair.

Follow the rules or don't place them

1. source? i'm pretty sure no one has been rejected like that. If there is evidence and they didn't break the other rules then that should be fixed.
2. I doubt 2 people would lie so much just to get in a RP. He probably has been on longer than a month. No one actually has got any evidence otherwise only conjecture.

Username/Nation Name: Falmerheim
Date that you joined the forum: Before the last month don't worry
History of Bans: Zilch
Your Party of Choice: Ind (Independent)

He joined the website on the 19th April I think, yet he got denied cos he'd only just started the forums?

That is why this is unfair

[Valentir]

Good, a new thread.

[Britcan]

He joined the website on the 19th April I think, yet he got denied cos he'd only just started the forums?

That is why this is unfair

Being a Senator only requires that you have been a NationStates Forum member for at least one month and that you do not have an excessive or concerning ban history

Emphasis mine.

[CTALNH]

hello

[Uiiop]

If the admins allow this, then what is to stop both sides creating these puppets and pretending to be ex players?

As for those who argue that it would take too much effort, I managed to find a nation in the boneyard within 10 seconds, so it's not that hard!

He joined before the elections.
I don't know if someone would do that just to join a RP.
If it really bothers you then ask a mod to check IPs in election periods.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

1. source? i'm pretty sure no one has been rejected like that. If there is evidence and they didn't break the other rules then that should be fixed.
2. I doubt 2 people would lie so much just to get in a RP. He probably has been on longer than a month. No one actually has got any evidence otherwise only conjecture.

Username/Nation Name: Falmerheim
Date that you joined the forum: Before the last month don't worry
History of Bans: Zilch
Your Party of Choice: Ind (Independent)

He joined the website on the 19th April I think, yet he got denied cos he'd only just started the forums?

That is why this is unfair

Agree. He is basically an illegitimate senator. He should not be allowed to join, nor vote

[Uiiop]

1. source? i'm pretty sure no one has been rejected like that. If there is evidence and they didn't break the other rules then that should be fixed.
2. I doubt 2 people would lie so much just to get in a RP. He probably has been on longer than a month. No one actually has got any evidence otherwise only conjecture.

Username/Nation Name: Falmerheim
Date that you joined the forum: Before the last month don't worry
History of Bans: Zilch
Your Party of Choice: Ind (Independent)

He joined the website on the 19th April I think, yet he got denied cos he'd only just started the forums?

That is why this is unfair

Are you concerned about the purpose of the rule or just keeping the rule?

[Britanno]

If the admins allow this, then what is to stop both sides creating these puppets and pretending to be ex players?

As for those who argue that it would take too much effort, I managed to find a nation in the boneyard within 10 seconds, so it's not that hard!

He joined before the elections.
I don't know if someone would do that just to join a RP.
If it really bothers you then ask a mod to check IPs in election periods.

But everyone knew that elections were coming, someone might have just been preparing. Oh and some people probably would waste 10 seconds to join a RP.

[Battlion]

He joined the website on the 19th April I think, yet he got denied cos he'd only just started the forums?

That is why this is unfair

Being a Senator only requires that you have been a NationStates Forum member for at least one month and that you do not have an excessive or concerning ban history

Emphasis mine.

Yes but the other guy hadn't even been on the website a month

[Battlion]

He joined the website on the 19th April I think, yet he got denied cos he'd only just started the forums?

That is why this is unfair

Are you concerned about the purpose of the rule or just keeping the rule?

I understand the rule, I just don't think we can make exceptions based on a story that could be false.

[Britanno]

I'm going offline now, but if I come back on to find that Ikania's vote was counted, I ain't gonna be a happy bunny.

[Bodobol]

If the admins allow this, then what is to stop both sides creating these puppets and pretending to be ex players?

As for those who argue that it would take too much effort, I managed to find a nation in the boneyard within 10 seconds, so it's not that hard!

Again, I'm not sure if this really means anything, but being IRL friends with him, I can vouch for Ikania having a nation prior to his current one.

[Britcan]

Emphasis mine.

Yes but the other guy hadn't even been on the website a month

They claim to have been, with another nation. If MV was satisfied by the evidence they gave then I would say it's not an issue.

[Uiiop]

He joined before the elections.
I don't know if someone would do that just to join a RP.
If it really bothers you then ask a mod to check IPs in election periods.

But everyone knew that elections were coming, someone might have just been preparing. Oh and some people probably would waste 10 seconds to join a RP.

You're suggesting conspiracy when only conjecture exists to support it. IF someone would have tried that they would do more people than just one person
Again if you so want to start a shitstorm...then let's have a mod settle this.

[Bleckonia]

The actions taken by maklohi vai are absolutely disgusting. Overriding set rules to get votes for someone is ludicrous. If that vote is not rendered null, I WILL resign. I cannot participate in an RP where people like mv think they can override set rules.

[Ikania]

If the admins allow this, then what is to stop both sides creating these puppets and pretending to be ex players?

As for those who argue that it would take too much effort, I managed to find a nation in the boneyard within 10 seconds, so it's not that hard!

Again, I'm not sure if this really means anything, but being IRL friends with him, I can vouch for Ikania having a nation prior to his current one.

I can tell you everything about Mojave. From the founding, to the leader, to the geography. I can even link you to a map of my old nation! I'm totally legitimate, and I think there should be an exception.

[Battlion]

Rules are Rules