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by The Nihilistic view » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:31 pm


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by Next Washington » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:37 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:I will not sponsor the act due to the fact that there are certain weaknesses in it that can push aurentina into a state of inflation and debt.
You put way too much faith in the people at the helm where even in the most liberal sistem there is that provision that will prohibit the printing of money in order to fund the sovering debt. If a goverment manages to put its own people in the board that it for the monetary sistem.
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by Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:23 am
Next Washington wrote:so, how should this be changed? please offer a solution
also i don't see how the nb would operate "coloured"; i mean their main duty is price stability, and then care about the economy per se
when to make debt is, normally, the decision of the gov, when it passes a budget with a deficit
short-term debt, for the case a CR is enacted, should be handled by the nb
by Ainin » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:29 am
The Nihilistic view wrote:Do we have a bill about freedom of information requests?

by Next Washington » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:31 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Next Washington wrote:so, how should this be changed? please offer a solution
also i don't see how the nb would operate "coloured"; i mean their main duty is price stability, and then care about the economy per se
when to make debt is, normally, the decision of the gov, when it passes a budget with a deficit
short-term debt, for the case a CR is enacted, should be handled by the nb
Thats why i send you a bit up in this tread the link from wikipedia about monetarisation. It is a provision that will prohibit the national bank from purchasing goverment bonds on the primary market. It is a fail safe mechanisam put even in the most liberal laws governing the central banks.
Second no where in the law there is that the central bank should focus on price stability. So they can go with full employment for instance. That will cause inflation.
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by Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:33 am

by Next Washington » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:44 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Next washington you are not right. It is part of the law of every central bank. Well ofmost central banks. Not for everyone. There are still countries in the world that focus on full employment and so on. So it is left to the president to decide in our case.
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by Battlion » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:46 am

Preamble
An Act of the Senate of Aurentina to bring transparency to court proceedings and create a bigger connection to justice with everyday citizens whilst understanding and desiring to protect those who should remain privately involved in court proceedings.
Section I – Right to Deny
1. All Parties involved in a court case shall have the right to appeal to the Judge to restrict the recording of the case throughout its entirety or partly at the beginning of the court session.
2. The Judge may approve the appeal on the following grounds:(a) National Security could be threatened by the recording of the case
3. The Right to Deny shall not be included for the delivery of verdict and/or any sentencing that is to follow.
(b) There is no significant public interest in the recording of the case
(c) Recording would endanger any party involved in a court case
(d) Any Party involved feel that recording would cause distress to themselves
4. The Judge shall explain his reasoning for the approval or rejection of an appeal before starting the trial, which shall be made public following the end of the court session.
Section II – Recording of Court Cases
1. Upon the passage of this act it shall be sufficient and legal for the approved recording of a court case, this shall apply to all courts within Aurentina.
2. “Approved Recording” shall be defined as the action or process of recording sound or a performance for subsequent reproduction or broadcast as approved by a Judge.
3. Any Recording that has not been approved by a Judge shall be subsequently destroyed, with those responsible facing the possibility of removal from the court or further charges as deemed sufficient by a Judge.
Section III – Broadcast of Court Cases
1. All recorded Court cases, entirely or partly, shall be placed online in an archive to be created by the Ministry of Justice.
2. Recorded Court cases, entirely or partly, shall be available for transmission across television networks following a successful bid to the Ministry of Justice.
3. The Ministry of Justice may approve or deny permission for any reason, however must provide a full public statement for doing so within twenty four hours.
Section IV – Review of Transparency
1. The Ministry of Justice shall review and produce a public statement on the amount of recorded cases available in the archive and on the amount of recorded cases that have been broadcast every year.

by Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:55 am

by Next Washington » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:36 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Nihil summed it up well. And there is my answer. And i did not ingore your telegram. Just you are trying to force us to follow a flawed act. And until it is passed we can not do that.
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by Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:08 am
Next Washington wrote:Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Nihil summed it up well. And there is my answer. And i did not ingore your telegram. Just you are trying to force us to follow a flawed act. And until it is passed we can not do that.
I don't force you to do anything
but the nb is so powerful that i, and maybe the other senators too, wanna know whether you're gonna lead it authoritarian or if you're willing to limit your power or not

by Next Washington » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:40 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Next Washington wrote:I don't force you to do anything
but the nb is so powerful that i, and maybe the other senators too, wanna know whether you're gonna lead it authoritarian or if you're willing to limit your power or not
Yes i will have an advisory board and i will work with them. There will be votes and so on. But in the end the signature is to the president of the bank. So he can write that the decision is based on consultations with the advisory board. But still without his signature the decision is non valid. Until that act passes. You should know that.
Althougt i intend to follow with the deals with my advisory board.

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by Battlion » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:27 am
Court Transparency Act
Urgency: Moderate | Author: Battlion [NDP] | Category: Order
Co-sponsors:Tundland [NDP], NEO Rome Republic [NDP], Beta Test [ALM], Britanno [ALM]
Preamble
An Act of the Senate of Aurentina to bring transparency to court proceedings and create a bigger connection to justice with everyday citizens whilst understanding and desiring to protect those who should remain privately involved in court proceedings.
Section I – Right to Deny
1. All Parties involved in a court case shall have the right to appeal to the Judge to restrict the recording of the case throughout its entirety or partly at the beginning of the court session.
2. The Judge may approve the appeal on the following grounds:(a) National Security could be threatened by the recording of the case
3. The Right to Deny shall not be included for the delivery of verdict and/or any sentencing that is to follow.
(b) There is no significant public interest in the recording of the case
(c) Recording would endanger any party involved in a court case
(d) Any Party involved feel that recording would cause distress to themselves
4. The Judge shall explain his reasoning for the approval or rejection of an appeal before starting the trial, which shall be made public following the end of the court session.
Section II – Recording of Court Cases
1. Upon the passage of this act it shall be sufficient and legal for the approved recording of a court case, this shall apply to all courts within Aurentina.
2. “Approved Recording” shall be defined as the action or process of recording sound or a performance for subsequent reproduction or broadcast as approved by a Judge.
3. Any Recording that has not been approved by a Judge shall be subsequently destroyed, with those responsible facing the possibility of removal from the court or further charges as deemed sufficient by a Judge.
Section III – Broadcast of Court Cases
1. All recorded Court cases, entirely or partly, shall be placed online in an archive to be created by the Ministry of Justice.
2. Recorded Court cases, entirely or partly, shall be available for transmission across television networks following a successful bid to the Ministry of Justice.
3. The Ministry of Justice may approve or deny permission for any reason, however must provide a full public statement for doing so within twenty four hours.
Section IV – Review of Transparency
1. The Ministry of Justice shall review and produce a public statement on the amount of recorded cases available in the archive and on the amount of recorded cases that have been broadcast every year.
by Ainin » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:38 am
“The ends you serve that are selfish will take you no further than yourself but the ends you serve that are for all, in common, will take you into eternity.”
― Marcus Garvey
Social Justice Act
Author: PM Alexander Ainin [NDP] | Urgency: High | SIMBEDS: Health
Sponsors: David Sloman [NDP]
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,
Whereas often-abused and unprivileged persons in lower classes of society deserve the protection of the law against discrimination and personal attacks, as mandated by the International Law Act,
Whereas government is the only institution capable of enforcing justice in an uniform and objective fashion,
Whereas the Government of Aurentina believes everyone is born free and equal, as affirmed by our ratification of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and Charter of the United Nations,
Hereby enacts the following into law:
This act may be referred to as the Social Justice Act of 2013, tabled by Prime Minister Alexander Ainin of the New Democratic Party.
Section 0
Homeless person is defined as an actual person (see below) without a permanent residence within Aurentina, but is either a citizen or permanent resident.
Restaurant is defined as a business located in a fixed location larger than 100m2 selling food, drinks or both, and with access to tap water (see below).
Tap water is defined as drinkable water originating from a government-owned water filtration facility.
Actual person is defined as a member of the Homo sapiens family.
Person is defined as an entity prosecutable by law for offences.
Section ISection II
- All restaurants are mandated to offer a glass of tap water to persons at no charge.
- All owners of restaurant owners are mandated to inform its existing staff of the above regulation, and to explain this to all new staff.
- All persons that fail to implementing either clause within 31 days of the act's passage is violation of a statute, a contravention.
- The Ministry of Health shall be mandated to inform all restaurant owners within 10 days of the act's passage, through the Aurentine Postal Service.
- Restaurants that lack addresses shall be given one by the relevant authority, and the Ministry of Health shall have to mail its owners with the provisions of this act within 15 days of the creation of the address.
- The Ministry of the Interior shall be mandated to create and operate night shelters for homeless persons.
- It must build at least one publicly-administered shelter in every census-designated area (see: Aurentine Postal Service Act) for every 10,000 persons (rounded to the nearest ten thousand).
- All shelters must have able to accommodate a minimum of 25 actual persons comfortably, to be verified by the Ministry of Labour each year.
- Shelters must provide an adequate quantity of free food, an unlimited amount of free water, and comfortable bedding to all homeless persons.
- A shelter may only refuse access to a person for the following reasons:
- The person is clearly not a homeless person, which the staff is allowed to verify by asking for an adequate form of identification. If it cannot be presented, the staff may forbid the person from entry at its discretion.
- The person's entry may severely disrupt the public order or may put the staff or residents at risk of bodily or psychological harm.

by Britanno » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:43 am
Ainin wrote:(Image)
“The ends you serve that are selfish will take you no further than yourself but the ends you serve that are for all, in common, will take you into eternity.”
― Marcus Garvey
Social Justice Act
Author: PM Alexander Ainin [NDP] | Urgency: High | SIMBEDS: Health
Sponsors: David Sloman [NDP]
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,
Whereas often-abused and unprivileged persons in lower classes of society deserve the protection of the law against discrimination and personal attacks, as mandated by the International Law Act,
Whereas government is the only institution capable of enforcing justice in an uniform and objective fashion,
Whereas the Government of Aurentina believes everyone is born free and equal, as affirmed by our ratification of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and Charter of the United Nations,
Hereby enacts the following into law:
This act may be referred to as the Social Justice Act of 2013, tabled by Prime Minister Alexander Ainin of the New Democratic Party.
Section 0
Homeless person is defined as an actual person (see below) without a permanent residence within Aurentina, but is either a citizen or permanent resident.
Restaurant is defined as a business located in a fixed location larger than 100m2 selling food, drinks or both, and with access to tap water (see below).
Tap water is defined as drinkable water originating from a government-owned water filtration facility.
Actual person is defined as a member of the Homo sapiens family.
Person is defined as an entity prosecutable by law for offences.
Section ISection II
- All restaurants are mandated to offer a glass of tap water to persons at no charge.
- All owners of restaurant owners are mandated to inform its existing staff of the above regulation, and to explain this to all new staff.
- All persons that fail to implementing either clause within 31 days of the act's passage is violation of a statute, a contravention.
- The Ministry of Health shall be mandated to inform all restaurant owners within 10 days of the act's passage, through the Aurentine Postal Service.
- Restaurants that lack addresses shall be given one by the relevant authority, and the Ministry of Health shall have to mail its owners with the provisions of this act within 15 days of the creation of the address.
- The Ministry of the Interior shall be mandated to create and operate night shelters for homeless persons.
- It must build at least one publicly-administered shelter in every census-designated area (see: Aurentine Postal Service Act) for every 10,000 persons (rounded to the nearest ten thousand).
- All shelters must have able to accommodate a minimum of 500 comfortably, and separated into permanent and temporary sections, to be verified by the Ministry of Labour each year.
- Shelters must provide an adequate quantity of free food, an unlimited amount of free water, and comfortable bedding to all homeless persons.
- A shelter may only refuse access to a person for the following reasons:
- The person is clearly not a homeless person, which the staff is allowed to verify by asking for an adequate form of identification. If it cannot be presented, the staff may forbid the person from entry at its discretion.
- The person's entry may severely disrupt the public order or may put the staff or residents at risk of bodily or psychological harm.

by The Nihilistic view » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:47 am
Britanno wrote:Ainin wrote:(Image)
“The ends you serve that are selfish will take you no further than yourself but the ends you serve that are for all, in common, will take you into eternity.”
― Marcus Garvey
Social Justice Act
Author: PM Alexander Ainin [NDP] | Urgency: High | SIMBEDS: Health
Sponsors: David Sloman [NDP]
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,
Whereas often-abused and unprivileged persons in lower classes of society deserve the protection of the law against discrimination and personal attacks, as mandated by the International Law Act,
Whereas government is the only institution capable of enforcing justice in an uniform and objective fashion,
Whereas the Government of Aurentina believes everyone is born free and equal, as affirmed by our ratification of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and Charter of the United Nations,
Hereby enacts the following into law:
This act may be referred to as the Social Justice Act of 2013, tabled by Prime Minister Alexander Ainin of the New Democratic Party.
Section 0
Homeless person is defined as an actual person (see below) without a permanent residence within Aurentina, but is either a citizen or permanent resident.
Restaurant is defined as a business located in a fixed location larger than 100m2 selling food, drinks or both, and with access to tap water (see below).
Tap water is defined as drinkable water originating from a government-owned water filtration facility.
Actual person is defined as a member of the Homo sapiens family.
Person is defined as an entity prosecutable by law for offences.
Section ISection II
- All restaurants are mandated to offer a glass of tap water to persons at no charge.
- All owners of restaurant owners are mandated to inform its existing staff of the above regulation, and to explain this to all new staff.
- All persons that fail to implementing either clause within 31 days of the act's passage is violation of a statute, a contravention.
- The Ministry of Health shall be mandated to inform all restaurant owners within 10 days of the act's passage, through the Aurentine Postal Service.
- Restaurants that lack addresses shall be given one by the relevant authority, and the Ministry of Health shall have to mail its owners with the provisions of this act within 15 days of the creation of the address.
- The Ministry of the Interior shall be mandated to create and operate night shelters for homeless persons.
- It must build at least one publicly-administered shelter in every census-designated area (see: Aurentine Postal Service Act) for every 10,000 persons (rounded to the nearest ten thousand).
- All shelters must have able to accommodate a minimum of 500 comfortably, and separated into permanent and temporary sections, to be verified by the Ministry of Labour each year.
- Shelters must provide an adequate quantity of free food, an unlimited amount of free water, and comfortable bedding to all homeless persons.
- A shelter may only refuse access to a person for the following reasons:
- The person is clearly not a homeless person, which the staff is allowed to verify by asking for an adequate form of identification. If it cannot be presented, the staff may forbid the person from entry at its discretion.
- The person's entry may severely disrupt the public order or may put the staff or residents at risk of bodily or psychological harm.
I completely support section two, but why only restaurants on section one? Why not all food and drink businesses?

by Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:03 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Britanno wrote:
I completely support section two, but why only restaurants on section one? Why not all food and drink businesses?
Don't you think having a minimum 500 bed building for homeless people in every 10,000 person area is a gross waste of money? I know the UK has about 2,500 sleeping rough every night out of 60+ million people. According to Ainin we have 2 million homeless on our streets. Or 1 in 20!

by The Nihilistic view » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:06 pm
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:The Nihilistic view wrote:
Don't you think having a minimum 500 bed building for homeless people in every 10,000 person area is a gross waste of money? I know the UK has about 2,500 sleeping rough every night out of 60+ million people. According to Ainin we have 2 million homeless on our streets. Or 1 in 20!
Completly agree with nihil. Talk about a way to waste money. in 20 homeless? Realy?
As a bit of more cost cuts in order to make it viable i think that 100 beds are more the enough. Are we a nation that has soo many homeless? I think not.

by Britanno » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:20 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Don't you think having a minimum 500 bed building for homeless people in every 10,000 person area is a gross waste of money? I know the UK has about 2,500 sleeping rough every night out of 60+ million people. According to Ainin we have 2 million homeless on our streets. Or 1 in 20!
God you're right. How did I miss that?
by Ainin » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:22 pm

by Geilinor » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:38 pm
Teacher Minimum Pay Act
Urgency: Mild | Author: Geilinor [NDP] | Category: Education
Co-sponsors:
Preamble
An Act of the Senate of Aurentina to regulate the wages of teachers under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Education and ensure that educators are properly renumerated for their services to the children of Aurentina.
Section I – Definitions
1. "Teacher" shall be defined as a person formally accredited and qualified to provide education to pupils.
2. "Full-time" shall be defined as spending a minimum of 40 hours per week performing work-related duties.
Section II – Provisions
1. All full-time teachers under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Education shall receive a minimum pay of £35,000 per year, adjusted annually for inflation.
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