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[Next Washington]

i. Committee on Budget
j. Committee on Constitution

Those shouldn't even be in their, the Constitutional Convention is established already and will only be called upon by the government. The Budget is also a government run thing, whoever is in power will create the budget thread.

Next, Senators being in more than one committee can and will create conflicts of interest as one may try to down the other committee to aid his favorite.

Senatorial Committee Act

Category: Senatorial Procedures | Urgency: Moderate | Sponsors:

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Foreword
Being in the senate for some time now, I recognized that our core process, legislation, is often inefficient. I mean that there are many laws proposed by one party and then approved by the same; and often the other parties, their comments and ideas are forgotten.
Therefore I propose founding special commitees for every law category, consisting of representants of all parties, official and unofficial, and everyone who has an idea for a law should be able to inform a committee and this committee shall draft a bill. Also each Minister shall find a place in the Committee(s) relevant for his ministry.

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I.Definitions:
a. In the following, “Committee” shall be defined as:
i. Legislative: As a group of Senators, of those each Senator represents one party of Aurentina. This law does not divide between official and unofficial parties. Not every party has to be represented in the Committee when it wishes not to be so.
ii. Physical: As a separate topic in the forum.
b. In the following, “idea” and “proposal” are defined as inputs given by an individual Senator to the Committee in form of a uncompleted bill or in form of a note explaining the content, reason, effect and relevance to the well-being of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

II. There shall be the following committees:
a. Committee on Health
b. Committee on International Relations
c. Committee on Order
d. Committee on Miscellaneous Topics
e. Committee on Business and Finance
f. Committee on Environment and Energy
g. Committee on Domestic and Development
h. Committee on Senatorial Procedures
i. Committee on Budget

III. To the Senators:
a. Every Senator can be a member of one or more Committee(s).
b. Every Senator can request help from a Committee, inform the Committee about his law idea and expect the Committee to deal with the idea.
c. Every Senator can request additional help from a Committee if he drafts his own bill.
d. Committee members are not elected but sent to the Committee by their party.
e. Every Committee may include Independent Senators, their amount is limitable down to 3 by the Chairman.

IV. To the Committees:
a. Every Committee shall have a Chairman, whose duties and rights are the following:
i. Moderate the discussion between the Committee members.
ii. Make sure every idea brought to the Committee is reviewed.
iii. Set limits concerning time, number of ideas in the queue or frequency of Senatorial requests according to the workload of the Committee.
iv. The Chairman is responsible for the end product (in form of a complete bill).
v. The Chairman shall be elected by the Committee members for a period of two months (adjusted to the national elections), infititive renews.
b. Every Committee must, in the case of a request for help concerning the drafting, writing and checking a proposed idea or bill for possible conflicts with existing laws, work through the following procedure:
i. A Senator request help or information.
ii. The Chairman must give the Senator (the one mentioned in IV.b.i.) information about details that are relevant for the time when his idea is dealt with.
iii. When no other proposal is in the queue, the Chairman must provide the Committee members will all information he received from the Senator (the one mentioned in IV.b.i.).
iv. The Committee shall now discuss the information given, do the required research and draft a bill or, in case an incomplete bill was presented to them, complete the bill.
c. The Committees and their shall be listed in the FAQ thread, in each Senate Chamber as well as in the Coffee Shop thread.

V. Governmental Control
a. Every Committee shall be watched by the executive government of Aurentina; though its independence shall not be threatened.
b. Every Committee member shall be impeachable by the Senate with a 2/3 majority vote; or with a Presidential Approval and a 1/3 vote in Senate.
c. Every Minister can participate in the Committee(s) relevant for his ministry.

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Epilogue
By this step, it is made possible that fewer voices are heared in this legislative process, but the ones that are raised are representing all parties of Aurentina. This (pre-)legislative process shall thereby be made easier, more efficient and more satisfying for the Senate and the people of Aurentina. NO, this process shall not be made exclusive for those committees, as Senators still can propose and draft their own composed laws.

ok, i deleted the contitutional committee

the budget will certainly stay in this bill, as the government, in my view, currently excludes eg the FC's opinion, whereas a committee would include every party's opinion and certainly deliver a better solution than we have now

to the "conflicts of interests": i now made it easier to impeach committee members, so if there'd be such a conflict of interest it could be reported to the gov and be dealt with

[Next Washington]

it has become silent in here... too silent...

[Neo Rome Republic]

it has become silent in here... too silent...

We'll have to change that.

[Belmaria]

Those shouldn't even be in their, the Constitutional Convention is established already and will only be called upon by the government. The Budget is also a government run thing, whoever is in power will create the budget thread.

Next, Senators being in more than one committee can and will create conflicts of interest as one may try to down the other committee to aid his favorite.

Senatorial Committee Act

Category: Senatorial Procedures | Urgency: Moderate | Sponsors:

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Foreword
Being in the senate for some time now, I recognized that our core process, legislation, is often inefficient. I mean that there are many laws proposed by one party and then approved by the same; and often the other parties, their comments and ideas are forgotten.
Therefore I propose founding special commitees for every law category, consisting of representants of all parties, official and unofficial, and everyone who has an idea for a law should be able to inform a committee and this committee shall draft a bill. Also each Minister shall find a place in the Committee(s) relevant for his ministry.

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I.Definitions:
a. In the following, “Committee” shall be defined as:
i. Legislative: As a group of Senators, of those each Senator represents one party of Aurentina. This law does not divide between official and unofficial parties. Not every party has to be represented in the Committee when it wishes not to be so.
ii. Physical: As a separate topic in the forum.
b. In the following, “idea” and “proposal” are defined as inputs given by an individual Senator to the Committee in form of a uncompleted bill or in form of a note explaining the content, reason, effect and relevance to the well-being of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

II. There shall be the following committees:
a. Committee on Health
b. Committee on International Relations
c. Committee on Order
d. Committee on Miscellaneous Topics
e. Committee on Business and Finance
f. Committee on Environment and Energy
g. Committee on Domestic and Development
h. Committee on Senatorial Procedures
i. Committee on Budget

III. To the Senators:
a. Every Senator can be a member of one or more Committee(s).
b. Every Senator can request help from a Committee, inform the Committee about his law idea and expect the Committee to deal with the idea.
c. Every Senator can request additional help from a Committee if he drafts his own bill.
d. Committee members are not elected but sent to the Committee by their party.
e. Every Committee may include Independent Senators, their amount is limitable down to 3 by the Chairman.

IV. To the Committees:
a. Every Committee shall have a Chairman, whose duties and rights are the following:
i. Moderate the discussion between the Committee members.
ii. Make sure every idea brought to the Committee is reviewed.
iii. Set limits concerning time, number of ideas in the queue or frequency of Senatorial requests according to the workload of the Committee.
iv. The Chairman is responsible for the end product (in form of a complete bill).
v. The Chairman shall be elected by the Committee members for a period of two months (adjusted to the national elections), infititive renews.
b. Every Committee must, in the case of a request for help concerning the drafting, writing and checking a proposed idea or bill for possible conflicts with existing laws, work through the following procedure:
i. A Senator request help or information.
ii. The Chairman must give the Senator (the one mentioned in IV.b.i.) information about details that are relevant for the time when his idea is dealt with.
iii. When no other proposal is in the queue, the Chairman must provide the Committee members will all information he received from the Senator (the one mentioned in IV.b.i.).
iv. The Committee shall now discuss the information given, do the required research and draft a bill or, in case an incomplete bill was presented to them, complete the bill.
c. The Committees and their shall be listed in the FAQ thread, in each Senate Chamber as well as in the Coffee Shop thread.

V. Governmental Control
a. Every Committee shall be watched by the executive government of Aurentina; though its independence shall not be threatened.
b. Every Committee member shall be impeachable by the Senate with a 2/3 majority vote; or with a Presidential Approval and a 1/3 vote in Senate.
c. Every Minister can participate in the Committee(s) relevant for his ministry.

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Epilogue
By this step, it is made possible that fewer voices are heared in this legislative process, but the ones that are raised are representing all parties of Aurentina. This (pre-)legislative process shall thereby be made easier, more efficient and more satisfying for the Senate and the people of Aurentina. NO, this process shall not be made exclusive for those committees, as Senators still can propose and draft their own composed laws.

ok, i deleted the contitutional committee

the budget will certainly stay in this bill, as the government, in my view, currently excludes eg the FC's opinion, whereas a committee would include every party's opinion and certainly deliver a better solution than we have now

to the "conflicts of interests": i now made it easier to impeach committee members, so if there'd be such a conflict of interest it could be reported to the gov and be dealt with

Add me as a sponsor!

[Next Washington]

it has become silent in here... too silent...

We'll have to change that.

TROLOLOLOLO.....LOLOLO

thanks, Belmaria

what d'ya say 'bout my bill?

Senatorial Committee Act

Category: Senatorial Procedures | Urgency: Moderate | Sponsors: Belmaria

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Foreword
Being in the senate for some time now, I recognized that our core process, legislation, is often inefficient. I mean that there are many laws proposed by one party and then approved by the same; and often the other parties, their comments and ideas are forgotten.
Therefore I propose founding special commitees for every law category, consisting of representants of all parties, official and unofficial, and everyone who has an idea for a law should be able to inform a committee and this committee shall draft a bill. Also each Minister shall find a place in the Committee(s) relevant for his ministry.

---

I.Definitions:
a. In the following, “Committee” shall be defined as:
i. Legislative: As a group of Senators, of those each Senator represents one party of Aurentina. This law does not divide between official and unofficial parties. Not every party has to be represented in the Committee when it wishes not to be so.
ii. Physical: As a separate topic in the forum.
b. In the following, “idea” and “proposal” are defined as inputs given by an individual Senator to the Committee in form of a uncompleted bill or in form of a note explaining the content, reason, effect and relevance to the well-being of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

II. There shall be the following committees:
a. Committee on Health
b. Committee on International Relations
c. Committee on Order
d. Committee on Miscellaneous Topics
e. Committee on Business and Finance
f. Committee on Environment and Energy
g. Committee on Domestic and Development
h. Committee on Senatorial Procedures
i. Committee on Budget

III. To the Senators:
a. Every Senator can be a member of one or more Committee(s).
b. Every Senator can request help from a Committee, inform the Committee about his law idea and expect the Committee to deal with the idea.
c. Every Senator can request additional help from a Committee if he drafts his own bill.
d. Committee members are not elected but sent to the Committee by their party.
e. Every Committee may include Independent Senators, their amount is limitable down to 3 by the Chairman.

IV. To the Committees:
a. Every Committee shall have a Chairman, whose duties and rights are the following:
i. Moderate the discussion between the Committee members.
ii. Make sure every idea brought to the Committee is reviewed.
iii. Set limits concerning time, number of ideas in the queue or frequency of Senatorial requests according to the workload of the Committee.
iv. The Chairman is responsible for the end product (in form of a complete bill).
v. The Chairman shall be elected by the Committee members for a period of two months (adjusted to the national elections), infititive renews.
b. Every Committee must, in the case of a request for help concerning the drafting, writing and checking a proposed idea or bill for possible conflicts with existing laws, work through the following procedure:
i. A Senator request help or information.
ii. The Chairman must give the Senator (the one mentioned in IV.b.i.) information about details that are relevant for the time when his idea is dealt with.
iii. When no other proposal is in the queue, the Chairman must provide the Committee members will all information he received from the Senator (the one mentioned in IV.b.i.).
iv. The Committee shall now discuss the information given, do the required research and draft a bill or, in case an incomplete bill was presented to them, complete the bill.
c. The Committees and their shall be listed in the FAQ thread, in each Senate Chamber as well as in the Coffee Shop thread.

V. Governmental Control
a. Every Committee shall be watched by the executive government of Aurentina; though its independence shall not be threatened.
b. Every Committee member shall be impeachable by the Senate with a 2/3 majority vote; or with a Presidential Approval and a 1/3 vote in Senate.
c. Every Minister can participate in the Committee(s) relevant for his ministry.

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Epilogue
By this step, it is made possible that fewer voices are heared in this legislative process, but the ones that are raised are representing all parties of Aurentina. This (pre-)legislative process shall thereby be made easier, more efficient and more satisfying for the Senate and the people of Aurentina. NO, this process shall not be made exclusive for those committees, as Senators still can propose and draft their own composed laws.

[Neo Rome Republic]

We'll have to change that.

TROLOLOLOLO.....LOLOLO

what d'ya say 'bout my bill?

It sux, like all de Right-wing. (Kidding)
Why should I sponsor it though, my party and coalition can pass whatever bill we want, what do I have to gain, by sponsoring your bill?

[Next Washington]

TROLOLOLOLO.....LOLOLO

what d'ya say 'bout my bill?

It sux, like all de Right-wing. (Kidding)

better than the communists taking over the world (kidding too)

[Next Washington]

TROLOLOLOLO.....LOLOLO

what d'ya say 'bout my bill?

It sux, like all de Right-wing. (Kidding)
Why should I sponsor it though, my party and coalition can pass whatever bill we want, what do I have to gain, by sponsoring your bill?

you're like the Democrats in the us: you don't think in the long run

what if one day, the opposition overtakes the senate and we should pass a budget? we'll have exact the same situation like we had in the us now, only because you don't want to negotiate and draft and pass bills that no party except the procoas support...

again, those committees are just a second way to draft laws, but a way better one, in my eyes, because within the committees the goal should be that every party can contribute, share their ideas and a small group of experts draft a law that most, if not all, parties can live with

[Neo Rome Republic]

It sux, like all de Right-wing. (Kidding)
Why should I sponsor it though, my party and coalition can pass whatever bill we want, what do I have to gain, by sponsoring your bill?

you're like the Democrats in the us: you don't think in the long run

what if one day, the opposition overtakes the senate and we should pass a budget? we'll have exact the same situation like we had in the us now, only because you don't want to negotiate and draft and pass bills that no party except the procoas support...

When that time comes then Ill compromise, until then, it's a Liberal/Socialist party up in this b***h!!!

[Next Washington]

you're like the Democrats in the us: you don't think in the long run

what if one day, the opposition overtakes the senate and we should pass a budget? we'll have exact the same situation like we had in the us now, only because you don't want to negotiate and draft and pass bills that no party except the procoas support...

When that time comes, then Ill compromise until then, it's a Liberal/Socialist party up in this b***h!!!

[Neo Rome Republic]

When that time comes, then Ill compromise until then, it's a Liberal/Socialist party up in this b***h!!!

Well then, I don't really see the point to having a super-majority, if it can't pass whatever laws it feels necessary to.

[Next Washington]

Well then, I don't really see the point to having a super-majority, if it can't pass whatever laws it feels necessary to.

it can, also with my bill approved

remember: those committees would only be a second way

so they can surely pass every law they want, but if it's drafted by a committee also the opposition will like it as their opinion is included

[Neo Rome Republic]

Well then, I don't really see the point to having a super-majority, if it can't pass whatever laws it feels necessary to.

it can, also with my bill approved

remember: those committees would only be a second way

so they can surely pass every law they want, but if it's drafted by a committee also the opposition will like it as their opinion is included

So what does it do, simply create discussion groups?
I'm not really concerned with what the opposition wants, atm.

[Next Washington]

it can, also with my bill approved

remember: those committees would only be a second way

so they can surely pass every law they want, but if it's drafted by a committee also the opposition will like it as their opinion is included

So what does it do, simply create discussion groups?
I'm not really concerned with what the opposition wants, atm.

"atm"???

you should be, 1) that's the idea of democracy and 2) things can turn around... and i wonder how you and your party would like to be treated...

[Byzantium Imperial]

you're like the Democrats in the us: you don't think in the long run

what if one day, the opposition overtakes the senate and we should pass a budget? we'll have exact the same situation like we had in the us now, only because you don't want to negotiate and draft and pass bills that no party except the procoas support...

When that time comes then Ill compromise, until then, it's a Liberal/Socialist party up in this b***h!!!

Thats the spirit of democracy!

[Neo Rome Republic]

When that time comes then Ill compromise, until then, it's a Liberal/Socialist party up in this b***h!!!

Thats the spirit of democracy!

If it's legal, it's permissible.

[The Nihilistic view]

The consitution I believe declared that, and the alcohol bill did. Age of majority is 16.

Just checked the Sale of Harmful Substances Act. Apparently the age of majority is 18. Thanks, this really saved me lots of trouble.

It's not, actually. There are several glaring loopholes if you use that act that render it useless. First off that its not a properly decleared age of majority.

[Neo Rome Republic]

So what does it do, simply create discussion groups?
I'm not really concerned with what the opposition wants, atm.

"atm"???

you should be, 1) that's the idea of democracy and 2) things can turn around... and i wonder how you and your party would like to be treated...

Ill worry about that ''detail'', when I have to face it, right now I do not.

[Ainin]

So what does it do, simply create discussion groups?
I'm not really concerned with what the opposition wants, atm.

"atm"???

you should be, 1) that's the idea of democracy and 2) things can turn around... and i wonder how you and your party would like to be treated...

(ATM stands for At The Moment, btw)

[Next Washington]

"atm"???

you should be, 1) that's the idea of democracy and 2) things can turn around... and i wonder how you and your party would like to be treated...

Ill worry about that ''detail'', when I have to face it, right now I do not.

you could face it.. like the dems face the gop now

[Byzantium Imperial]

Just checked the Sale of Harmful Substances Act. Apparently the age of majority is 18. Thanks, this really saved me lots of trouble.

It's not, actually. There are several glaring loopholes if you use that act that render it useless. First off that its not a properly decleared age of majority.

Well, either 2 amendments need to be drawn up to fix constitution/alcohol, one amendment to SHSA, or a new bill entirely defining it.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Ill worry about that ''detail'', when I have to face it, right now I do not.

you could face it.. like the dems face the gop now

Oh well. If it happens, it happens. For now take advantage of the moment, while it's still here.

[Belmaria]

"atm"???

you should be, 1) that's the idea of democracy and 2) things can turn around... and i wonder how you and your party would like to be treated...

Ill worry about that ''detail'', when I have to face it, right now I do not.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

[Neo Rome Republic]

Ill worry about that ''detail'', when I have to face it, right now I do not.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

Beg your pardon?

[Byzantium Imperial]

Ill worry about that ''detail'', when I have to face it, right now I do not.

you could face it.. like the dems face the gop now

If and when that time comes, our senate has a fine tradition what to do in impasses: violence on the senate floor.
Fascist militarists for the win!