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Postby Dragomere » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:49 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:This violates our Neutrality.


Seconded, this is an illegal bill as is any military action taken on the island.

How so?
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:50 pm

Ainin wrote:
Dragomere wrote:I hear that we are having a conflict with "Liberty Isle", so here it goes:
Liberty Isle Reclamation Act
Author: Dragomere [NASA] | Category: ??? | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


RECOGNIZING the constant troubles brought fourth by those on "Liberty Isle";

HEREBY authorizes 30 days of armed combat against "Liberty Isle";

DECLARES that "Liberty Isle" is a possession of Aurentina, and thus falls under all Aurentine laws and juridictions;

DECLARES that any financial lossesduring the war, must be paid by those living on "Liberty Isle".

1. Correct me if I misenterpreted what was going on in the Senate Lobby (on which this bill is based)
2. Sponsor and/or comment.

We don't need to declare war to take terra nullus. We just have to go in.

This is also true.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:50 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Abolition of Alcahol Duty on Pubs
Urgency: High | Author: The Nihilistic View [IP] | Category: Business & Finance
Co-sponsors:

Preamble
Recognizing that the pubs of this nation are struggling to compete with cheap alcohol on offer in supermarkets due to excessive taxation not faced by supermarkets. This has seen many pub closures as either the punters dry up or the pub can no longer make a profit due to the cheaper alternatives.

Believing pubs to the bedrock of Aurentine society and the center of many communities, as one of the few institutions that brings people of different backgrounds and social economic groups together. Thus any cut in taxes should be used to reduce both the cost to the consumer and secure the future of the Pub industry in the future.

Hereby Exempts Pups holding an exemption licence from obligation to pay or follow any taxes or laws set out bellow and passes the Abolition of Alcohol Duty on Pub's into law.


Section 1 -Acquirement of an exemption license

The ministry of Business Safety will be responsible for setting up and running the following national exemption licensing system called the Pub exemption licensing authority (PELA).

Clause 1-The following requirements will all need to be satisfied for a Pub to gain an exemption license.

    a) Must sell draught beer, cider or larger.
    b) Must hold any required Premises licence that designates the business as a pub. As required by current or future legislation regarding the legality of the consumption of alcohol on the premises after sale.
    c) The owner of the premises is required to hold any personal publican's license required by current or future legislation.
    d) Is not hold an off-license.
    e) Does not hold a license designating the premises a Nightclub in accordance with any current or future legislation regarding the regulation of Nightclubs.
    f) Does not hold any license designating the premises as as restaurant thus allowing for the waiting on patrons.

Clause 2 - Following the satisfaction of the entirety of Section 1 Clause 1 the received exemption license will exempt the applying premises from the following.

    a) Payment of regional or national excise duty on Alcohol .
    b) Following of regional or national alcohol minimum pricing laws.
    d) Payment of value added or sales tax on any alcoholic beverages.
    e) Any future tax levied on the sale or purchase of alcoholic beverages on or by a holder of an exemption license.

Clause 3- Passing on of savings.

    a) At least 70% of the saving's of the exemption from taxes must be passed on to the consumer by a reduction in the price of alcoholic beverages served.
    b) Failure to comply with clause 3a will result in immediate suspension of the exemption of the license until such a time as a new pricing plan that complies with the law is presented and approved by the PELA.

:rofl: You didn't even spell alcohol correctly.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:53 pm

Skeckoa wrote:So the ones having health problems are most likely addicted to booze. A price change will not alter the addiction, it would just motivate them to (1) Spend a larger amount of their money on booze or (2) Get it by other means. (Black market, stealing, making their own...)

Wrong. It worked in several countries. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jul/17/minimum-unit-price-alcohol-shelved
Six countries including Canada have introduced minimum pricing for alcohol and we are beginning to see significant benefits. "Real-life experience of minimum pricing in Canada has shown some tremendous results – with a 10% increase in the price of cheapest drinks leading to a 32% reduction in wholly alcohol-related deaths.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:54 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:

:rofl: You didn't even spell alcohol correctly.


How many times did I spell it right?
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:56 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote: :rofl: You didn't even spell alcohol correctly.


How many times did I spell it right?

I don't care. The title of the bill is still incorrect.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:57 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
How many times did I spell it right?

I don't care. The title of the bill is still incorrect.


Is correct if you go to the latest draught.
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:03 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Abolition of Alcahol Duty on Pubs
Urgency: High | Author: The Nihilistic View [IP] | Category: Business & Finance
Co-sponsors:

Preamble
Recognizing that the pubs of this nation are struggling to compete with cheap alcohol on offer in supermarkets due to excessive taxation not faced by supermarkets.

Believing pubs to the bedrock of Aurentine society and the center of many communities, as one of the few institutions that brings people of different backgrounds and social economic groups together.

Hereby Exempts Pups holding an exemption licence from obligation to pay or follow any taxes or laws set out bellow and passes the Abolition of Alcohol Duty on Pub's into law.


Section 1 -Acquirement of an exemption license

The ministry of Business Safety will be responsible for setting up and running the following national exemption licensing system.

Clause 1-The following requirements will all need to be satisfied for a Pub to gain an exemption license.

    a) Must sell draught beer, cider or larger.
    b) Must hold any required Premises licence that designates the business as a pub. As required by current or future legislation regarding the legality of the consumption of alcohol on the premises after sale.
    c) The owner of the premises is required to hold any personal publican's license required by current or future legislation.
    d) Is not hold an off-license.
    e) Does not hold a license designating the premises a Nightclub in accordance with any current or future legislation regarding the regulation of Nightclubs.
    f) Does not hold any license designating the premises as as restaurant thus allowing for the waiting on patrons.

Clause 2 - Following the satisfaction of the entirety of Section 1 Clause 1 the received exemption license will exempt the applying premises from the following.

    a) Payment of regional or national excise duty on Alcohol .
    b) Following of regional or national alcohol minimum pricing laws.
    d) Payment of value added or sales tax on any alcoholic beverages.
    e) Any future tax levied on the sale or purchase of alcoholic beverages on or by a holder of an exemption license.


Not yet finished but comments welcome.


Updated slightly.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:55 am

Dragomere wrote:I hear that we are having a conflict with "Liberty Isle", so here it goes:
Liberty Isle Reclamation Act
Author: Dragomere [NASA] | Category: ??? | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


RECOGNIZING the constant troubles brought fourth by those on "Liberty Isle";

HEREBY authorizes 30 days of armed combat against "Liberty Isle";

DECLARES that "Liberty Isle" is a possession of Aurentina, and thus falls under all Aurentine laws and juridictions;

DECLARES that any financial lossesduring the war, must be paid by those living on "Liberty Isle".

1. Correct me if I misenterpreted what was going on in the Senate Lobby (on which this bill is based)
2. Sponsor and/or comment.


Imperialism.


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Postby Next Washington » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:13 am

hello, i'm new to the senate, here's my first draft of a proposal... please also excuse any grammatical mistakes, i'm from austria

Reforming Education In Higher School Act

Urgency:moderate | Author: Next Washington [NDP] | Category: Domestic Development


Preamble

This bill shall guarantee higher student satisfaction and better education by allowing students to partially choose their subjects in higher grades.
In the following, "higher grades" is defined as the time from the nineth (9th) school year to the twelveth (12th) school year.

I. In higher grades, certain hours of school subjects per shall be defined as essential and as choosable.
a. Maths: Essential: 3 hours per week
b. English: Essential: 3 hours per week
c. History: Essential: 2 hours per week
d. Politics: Essential: 2 hours per week
e. Geography and Economy: Essential: 2 hours per week
f. Science: Essential: 2 hours per week

II. Summing up, essential hours per week make 14 hours per week. The choosable subjects shall make up the rest of the weekly school hours defined for each grade.
a. For the 9th grade: Total: 28 hours, Choosable 14 hours
b. For the 10th grade: Total: 29 hours, Choosable 15 hours
c. For the 11th grade: Total 31 hours, Choosable 17 hours
d. For the 12th grade: Total 30 hours, Choosable 16 hours

III. The choosable subjects shall be the following:
a. Maths
b. English
c. History
d. Politics
e. Geography and Economy
f. Biology
g. Chemistry
h. Physics
i. Physical Education
j. Music - Science
k. Music - Instrument
l. Informatics
m. Philosophy
n. Psychology
o. Foreign Language - German
p. Foreign Language - Spanish
q. Foreign Language - Japanese
r. Foreign Language - French
s. Foreign Language - Russian

IV. The choice of the subjects is done by each student. The student may regard the following:
a. The maximum amount of hours per week of one subject must be 10 hours.
b. The minimum amount of subjects must be 7.
c. The school districts are responsible for the teachers. External teachers may be hired for subjects.


should i probably write the points in full sentences?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:50 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Dragomere wrote:I hear that we are having a conflict with "Liberty Isle", so here it goes:
Liberty Isle Reclamation Act
Author: Dragomere [NASA] | Category: ??? | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


RECOGNIZING the constant troubles brought fourth by those on "Liberty Isle";

HEREBY authorizes 30 days of armed combat against "Liberty Isle";

DECLARES that "Liberty Isle" is a possession of Aurentina, and thus falls under all Aurentine laws and juridictions;

DECLARES that any financial lossesduring the war, must be paid by those living on "Liberty Isle".

1. Correct me if I misenterpreted what was going on in the Senate Lobby (on which this bill is based)
2. Sponsor and/or comment.


Imperialism.

How? Liberty Isle was an uninhabited island presumably within Aurentina's boundaries.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:50 pm

Do we currently have a law on organ donation? If not, I'm thinking of writing one establishing an opt-out system.
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Postby Unicario » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:59 pm

Next Washington wrote:hello, i'm new to the senate, here's my first draft of a proposal... please also excuse any grammatical mistakes, i'm from austria

Reforming Education In Higher School Act

Urgency:moderate | Author: Next Washington [NDP] | Category: Domestic Development


Preamble

This bill shall guarantee higher student satisfaction and better education by allowing students to partially choose their subjects in higher grades.
In the following, "higher grades" is defined as the time from the nineth (9th) school year to the twelveth (12th) school year.

I. In higher grades, certain hours of school subjects per shall be defined as essential and as choosable.
a. Maths: Essential: 3 hours per week
b. English: Essential: 3 hours per week
c. History: Essential: 2 hours per week
d. Politics: Essential: 2 hours per week
e. Geography and Economy: Essential: 2 hours per week
f. Science: Essential: 2 hours per week

II. Summing up, essential hours per week make 14 hours per week. The choosable subjects shall make up the rest of the weekly school hours defined for each grade.
a. For the 9th grade: Total: 28 hours, Choosable 14 hours
b. For the 10th grade: Total: 29 hours, Choosable 15 hours
c. For the 11th grade: Total 31 hours, Choosable 17 hours
d. For the 12th grade: Total 30 hours, Choosable 16 hours

III. The choosable subjects shall be the following:
a. Maths
b. English
c. History
d. Politics
e. Geography and Economy
f. Biology
g. Chemistry
h. Physics
i. Physical Education
j. Music - Science
k. Music - Instrument
l. Informatics
m. Philosophy
n. Psychology
o. Foreign Language - German
p. Foreign Language - Spanish
q. Foreign Language - Japanese
r. Foreign Language - French
s. Foreign Language - Russian

IV. The choice of the subjects is done by each student. The student may regard the following:
a. The maximum amount of hours per week of one subject must be 10 hours.
b. The minimum amount of subjects must be 7.
c. The school districts are responsible for the teachers. External teachers may be hired for subjects.


should i probably write the points in full sentences?


Opposed due to Ministry of Education plans to implement a completely new system, and because lots of this doesn't seem like much of a change from what we have now.
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Postby Dragomere » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:03 pm

Next Washington wrote:hello, i'm new to the senate, here's my first draft of a proposal... please also excuse any grammatical mistakes, i'm from austria

Reforming Education In Higher School Act

Urgency:moderate | Author: Next Washington [NDP] | Category: Domestic Development


Preamble

This bill shall guarantee higher student satisfaction and better education by allowing students to partially choose their subjects in higher grades.
In the following, "higher grades" is defined as the time from the nineth (9th) school year to the twelveth (12th) school year.

I. In higher grades, certain hours of school subjects per shall be defined as essential and as choosable.
a. Maths: Essential: 3 hours per week
b. English: Essential: 3 hours per week
c. History: Essential: 2 hours per week
d. Politics: Essential: 2 hours per week
e. Geography and Economy: Essential: 2 hours per week
f. Science: Essential: 2 hours per week

II. Summing up, essential hours per week make 14 hours per week. The choosable subjects shall make up the rest of the weekly school hours defined for each grade.
a. For the 9th grade: Total: 28 hours, Choosable 14 hours
b. For the 10th grade: Total: 29 hours, Choosable 15 hours
c. For the 11th grade: Total 31 hours, Choosable 17 hours
d. For the 12th grade: Total 30 hours, Choosable 16 hours

III. The choosable subjects shall be the following:
a. Maths
b. English
c. History
d. Politics
e. Geography and Economy
f. Biology
g. Chemistry
h. Physics
i. Physical Education
j. Music - Science
k. Music - Instrument
l. Informatics
m. Philosophy
n. Psychology
o. Foreign Language - German
p. Foreign Language - Spanish
q. Foreign Language - Japanese
r. Foreign Language - French
s. Foreign Language - Russian

IV. The choice of the subjects is done by each student. The student may regard the following:
a. The maximum amount of hours per week of one subject must be 10 hours.
b. The minimum amount of subjects must be 7.
c. The school districts are responsible for the teachers. External teachers may be hired for subjects.


should i probably write the points in full sentences?

I will sponsor, if you can fulfill the following conditions:
1. You get input from the Ministry of education,
2. You use that Input to rewrite this bill, and
3. It you can get at least 2 other sponsors on this bill.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:16 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I don't care. The title of the bill is still incorrect.


Is correct if you go to the latest draught.


Draft. Seriously, sort your spelling out.
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Postby Potenco » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:25 pm

Is it possible to create a law that states that trying to secede and avoid paying Aurentine taxes is an act of treason and put most of the LCP on death row?
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Postby Oneracon » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:27 pm

Potenco wrote:Is it possible to create a law that states that trying to secede and avoid paying Aurentine taxes is an act of treason and put most of the LCP on death row?


Or we go with the more realistic option of requiring senators to live in their constituency.
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Postby Potenco » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:34 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Potenco wrote:Is it possible to create a law that states that trying to secede and avoid paying Aurentine taxes is an act of treason and put most of the LCP on death row?


Or we go with the more realistic option of requiring senators to live in their constituency.


Think of it! We could manipulate legalese and manipulate the whole issue. These traitors should be charged with at least tax evasion, if not treason
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:13 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Potenco wrote:Is it possible to create a law that states that trying to secede and avoid paying Aurentine taxes is an act of treason and put most of the LCP on death row?


Or we go with the more realistic option of requiring senators to live in their constituency.

I'll write the bill.
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Postby Skeckoa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:15 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
Or we go with the more realistic option of requiring senators to live in their constituency.

I'll write the bill.


But don't they have to be serving in Leishaagen in order to do their job?

in the meanwhile...
Protection of Child Immigrants Act

Sponsors: Dunstan (ND), Dragonomere (NASA), NEO Rome Republic (ND) ; Category: Order ; Priority: Moderate

This bill hereby mandates that all Immigrants who comply with the following parameters immediately be given the option to apply for legal status as residents of Aurentina, and set on the path to citizenship.

As permanent residents, these immigrants will be subject to the same process to citizenship that other immigrants of that status are subject to, as well as the safeguards, most importantly the shedding of the threat of deportation, unless first charged with a serious felony.

THE PARAMETERS:
1. The immigrant in question has to have first immigrated to Aurentina before the date of six months before the passing of this bill.
1a. The immigrant in question has to have not been deported from the country after this date.
2. The immigrant in question had to have arrived to the country of Aurentina before their eighteenth birthday.
3. The immigrant in question has to have (1a) Earned their Aurentina Department of Education granted Diploma or (2a) have served in the Aurentine Armed Forces for a minimum of 12 months.
3a. Immigrants in question that are serving in the Aurentina Armed Forces at the time of the signing of this bill, and had began to serve at least six months before the signing of the bill, upon application for Permanent Resident will be exempted from the twelve month minimum time limit.
3aa. This exemplary status will be revoked if the immigrant in question is discharged from their particular division of the Armed Force for whatever reason.
4. The immigrant in question must be living in Aurentina to have their application be considered for acceptance.
4a. Students attending higher education in other countries shall be exempted from this parameter.
5. At no point in their lifetime should these immigrants have been charged of a serious felony or crime that would have merited the deportation of immigrants with legal status.
6. The immigrant in question must not be incarcerated in an Aurentine prison in order for their application to be considered.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:19 pm

Senator Residency Act
Author: Geilinor [NDP] | Category: ??? | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


RECOGNIZING that a small group of Senators has recently moved to "Liberty Isle" to avoid paying taxes,

BELIEVING that the representatives of the Aurentine people must contribute to the government through taxation and have some connection with the people,

HEREBY passes the Senator Residency Act;

DECLARES that all Aurentine Senators must reside within the Aurentine Commonwealth for a minimum of 183 days in a calendar year.

DECLARES that any Senators found to be violating this provision may be stripped of their positions in the Senate.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:23 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Senator Residency Act
Author: Geilinor [NDP] | Category: ??? | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


RECOGNIZING that a small group of Senators has recently moved to "Liberty Isle" to avoid paying taxes,

BELIEVING that the representatives of the Aurentine people must contribute to the government through taxation and have some connection with the people,

HEREBY passes the Senator Residency Act;

DECLARES that all Aurentine Senators must reside within the Aurentine Commonwealth for a minimum of 183 days in a calendar year.

DECLARES that any Senators found to be violating this provision may be stripped of their positions in the Senate.


So what happens when the 183 days are up, can they go back to evading taxes? OOC: How does this work in actual gameplay aspects, when is the expiration of date of having to stay in the country, is there actually one?
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Postby Potenco » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:26 pm

I still think we could get most of the senate to approve of publiclly drawing and quartering everyone behind the Liberty Island project
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:27 pm

Potenco wrote:I still think we could get most of the senate to approve of publiclly drawing and quartering everyone behind the Liberty Island project


Doesn't it seem a tiny bit harsh, to hang people over tax evasion?
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Postby Oneracon » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:28 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Senator Residency Act
Author: Geilinor [NDP] | Category: ??? | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


RECOGNIZING that a small group of Senators has recently moved to "Liberty Isle" to avoid paying taxes,

BELIEVING that the representatives of the Aurentine people must contribute to the government through taxation and have some connection with the people,

HEREBY passes the Senator Residency Act;

DECLARES that all Aurentine Senators must reside within the Aurentine Commonwealth for a minimum of 183 days in a calendar year.

DECLARES that any Senators found to be violating this provision may be stripped of their positions in the Senate.


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