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by **Skeckoa** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:39 pm

Vairikai Sari wrote:
Skeckoa wrote:
Thank you and added

So will i

Awesome! I'm loving the range of political spectrum I'm getting here (This isn't the most partisan issue, but still

Still gotta get one more spoke though

by **The Union of the West** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:51 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
Vairikai Sari wrote:So will i

Awesome! I'm loving the range of political spectrum I'm getting here (This isn't the most partisan issue, but still

Its good to see we all can agree on at least something

by **Finium** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:57 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Skeckoa wrote:
Awesome! I'm loving the range of political spectrum I'm getting here (This isn't the most partisan issue, but still

Its good to see we all can agree on at least something

I'm just goin' to go ahead and disagree with you there.

by **Geilinor** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:23 pm

Euskirribakondara wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They would be paid for like a prescription drug. We have an NHS type system where healthcare is free. The system doesn't have means-testing. The UK does have a prescription charge, but contraceptives are free. We'd have to establish a card for the healthcare system, which we don't have.

There's another "weak" point in the resolution.... Which kind of contraceptives will be free? Anything from a condom to a high-tech surgery can qualify as a contraceptive..... And we have to think economically. Do we really have enough money to give out ALL kinds of contraceptives to our people?

Yes, we do have enough money to do so. How do you think the UK and Canada afford to cover sterilizations?

by **Geilinor** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:25 pm

by **Vairikai Sari** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:27 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Contraceptives Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP) Urgency: Medium SIMBEDS: Health Sponsors:
The Licentian Isles(NDP), HumanSanity(RG), Malgrave(MSP), Unicario(RG), Jerusalemian(NDP), Deutsche Democratische Republik, Potenco(SAP), CTALNH(SAP)

Recognizing that family planning services, such as contraceptives, allow people who desire to have children ensure that they have the needed resources to accomplish their goals.

Aware that contraceptives can prevent unplanned pregnancies, control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and provide other health benefits.

Believing that people should be able to freely determine the number and spacing of their children,

Defines: A "contraceptive" as a device or drug seeking to prevent pregnancy.

1. The Ministry of Health shall entrusted with the responsibility of determining which contraceptives are the most effective and engaging in public service campaigns to spread awareness of these contraceptives.

2. The Ministry of Health shall fully pay for purchases of contraceptives under the national healthcare system from its budget.

I will sponsor.

by **Geilinor** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:29 pm

Vairikai Sari wrote:
Geilinor wrote:
Contraceptives Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP) Urgency: Medium SIMBEDS: Health Sponsors:
The Licentian Isles(NDP), HumanSanity(RG), Malgrave(MSP), Unicario(RG), Jerusalemian(NDP), Deutsche Democratische Republik, Potenco(SAP), CTALNH(SAP)

Recognizing that family planning services, such as contraceptives, allow people who desire to have children ensure that they have the needed resources to accomplish their goals.

Aware that contraceptives can prevent unplanned pregnancies, control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and provide other health benefits.

Believing that people should be able to freely determine the number and spacing of their children,

Defines: A "contraceptive" as a device or drug seeking to prevent pregnancy.

1. The Ministry of Health shall entrusted with the responsibility of determining which contraceptives are the most effective and engaging in public service campaigns to spread awareness of these contraceptives.

2. The Ministry of Health shall fully pay for purchases of contraceptives under the national healthcare system from its budget.

I will sponsor.

Added.

I'm submitting it to the chambers now, if there's no further discussion.

by **Fulflood** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:26 am

Geilinor wrote:
Vairikai Sari wrote:I will sponsor.

Added.
Contraceptives Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP) Urgency: Medium SIMBEDS: Health Sponsors:
The Licentian Isles(NDP), HumanSanity(RG), Malgrave(MSP), Unicario(RG), Jerusalemian(NDP), Deutsche Democratische Republik, Potenco(SAP), CTALNH(SAP), Varikari Sari(SPP)

Recognizing that family planning services, such as contraceptives, allow people who desire to have children ensure that they have the needed resources to accomplish their goals.

Aware that contraceptives can prevent unplanned pregnancies, control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and provide other health benefits.

Believing that people should be able to freely determine the number and spacing of their children,

Defines: A "contraceptive" as a device or drug seeking to prevent pregnancy.

1. The Ministry of Health shall entrusted with the responsibility of determining which contraceptives are the most effective and engaging in public service campaigns to spread awareness of these contraceptives.

2. The Ministry of Health shall fully pay for purchases of contraceptives under the national healthcare system from its budget.

I'm submitting it to the chambers now, if there's no further discussion.

Oh, oh, can I sponsor?

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:56 am

by **Britanno** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:57 am

If I look at a street, I have watched it. Does that make me a member of a night watch organisation?

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:58 am

Britanno wrote:If I look at a street, I have watched it. Does that make me a member of a night watch organisation?

Do you carry weapons and are a look out all night for criminal activities?

by **Britanno** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:59 am

CTALNH wrote:
Britanno wrote:If I look at a street, I have watched it. Does that make me a member of a night watch organisation?

Do you carry weapons and are a look out all night for criminal activities?

Does your definition say anything about either of those?

by **Battlion** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:59 am

CTALNH wrote:
Britanno wrote:If I look at a street, I have watched it. Does that make me a member of a night watch organisation?

Do you carry weapons and are a look out all night for criminal activities?

That's not specified in the legislation

by **Central and Eastern Visayas** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:10 am

Battlion wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Do you carry weapons and are a look out all night for criminal activities?

That's not specified in the legislation

Yep, that's a loophole that needs to be closed.

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:13 am

Britanno wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Do you carry weapons and are a look out all night for criminal activities?

Does your definition say anything about either of those?

Thats why I posted it here.

by **Fulflood** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:15 am

CTALNH wrote:
Night watch Act

Author: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Security Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP)

Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements hereby

Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations hereby this act

Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety and

Defines: A "night watch organization" as a group of people who:

1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, esp for security

2. Armed organized citizens following 1

You'll need to state that this bill repeals part of the ISA, and specify which part.

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:17 am

Fulflood wrote:
CTALNH wrote:
Night watch Act

Author: CTALNH (SAP) Urgency: High SIMBEDS: Security Sponsors:CTALNH (SAP)

Aware that our country is facing quite bit of problem because of criminal elements hereby

Believing that people should be able to freely form night watch organizations hereby this act

Allows the creation of night watch organizations at will by people who are interested to help maintain public safety and

Defines: A "night watch organization" as a group of people who:

1. A Watch or Guard the roams streets at night, esp for security

2. Armed organized citizens following 1

You'll need to state that this bill repeals part of the ISA, and specify which part.

Do I?

I searched the bill and didn't find anything that seems go against it.

by **Fulflood** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:20 am

CTALNH wrote:
Fulflood wrote:You'll need to state that this bill repeals part of the ISA, and specify which part.

Do I?

I searched the bill and didn't find anything that seems go against it.

Section 4d:
"The creation of new paramilitaries, vigilante groups and citizen militias is banned and all new paramilitaries are to be recognised as terrorist organisations."
That's one example of where armed militias/vigilantes are banned.

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:22 am

Fulflood wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Do I?

I searched the bill and didn't find anything that seems go against it.

Section 4d:
"The creation of new paramilitaries, vigilante groups and citizen militias is banned and all new paramilitaries are to be recognised as terrorist organisations."
That's one example of where armed militias/vigilantes are banned.

I will add a repeal clouse.

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:23 am

Better?

by **Belmaria** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:23 am

Fulflood wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Do I?

I searched the bill and didn't find anything that seems go against it.

Section 4d:
"The creation of new paramilitaries, vigilante groups and citizen militias is banned and all new paramilitaries are to be recognised as terrorist organisations."
That's one example of where armed militias/vigilantes are banned.

Some people could consider security guards "vigilantes" because they are essentially private individuals acting as police officers.

by **Belmaria** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:24 am

CTALNH wrote:Better?

Add me as a sponsor.

by **Fulflood** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:30 am

Belmaria wrote:
Fulflood wrote:Section 4d:
"The creation of new paramilitaries, vigilante groups and citizen militias is banned and all new paramilitaries are to be recognised as terrorist organisations."
That's one example of where armed militias/vigilantes are banned.

Some people could consider security guards "vigilantes" because they are essentially private individuals acting as police officers.

If they try to arrest or punish people, then yes, they are acting as a vigilante.

by **CTALNH** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:31 am

Fulflood wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Some people could consider security guards "vigilantes" because they are essentially private individuals acting as police officers.

If they try to arrest or punish people, then yes, they are acting as a vigilante.

Article 6: Citizen's Arrest 6a: A Citizen's Arrest may be made if against anyone in the act of committing an offense, or whom the arrestor has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be in the act of committing an offence.
6b: A Citizen's Arrest may also be made where an offence has been committed, anyone who is guilty of that offence or whom the arrestor has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it.
6c: A Citizen's Arrest is not permitted if there is a law enforcement officer who is in a better position to make an arrest.
6d: Reasonability in a citizen's arrest shall be defined as the prevention of physical injury to the arrestee or others, the loss or damage of property and the absconding before a law enforcement officer can assume responsibility for him. In addition, if the offender has committed any of these acts, then a citizen's arrest may be conducted.

From the ISA.

by **Belmaria** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:32 am

Fulflood wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Some people could consider security guards "vigilantes" because they are essentially private individuals acting as police officers.

If they try to arrest or punish people, then yes, they are acting as a vigilante.

I support citizens arrest but not violent vigilantism.

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