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Battlion
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Postby Battlion » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:17 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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I like the spirit of what you are doing, but why should the government give away contraceptives to everyone? Why not make it a means tested?

I would also appreciate it if someone filled me in a bit on Aurentine healthcare. How do you envision contraceptives being distributed? Normal retail stores? Health centers?

They would be paid for like a prescription drug. We have an NHS type system where healthcare is free. The system doesn't have means-testing. The UK does have a prescription charge, but contraceptives are free. We'd have to establish a card for the healthcare system, which we don't have.


A card?

I'd suggest something similar to the Aurentine Benefit Cards now used to distribute Universal Credit Payments as a card that removes prescription charges for the holder... Children, the elderly, the disabled, and so many more groups could benefit from such a card.

I know this is unrelated, does Aurentina even have prescription charges?

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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:19 pm

Battlion wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They would be paid for like a prescription drug. We have an NHS type system where healthcare is free. The system doesn't have means-testing. The UK does have a prescription charge, but contraceptives are free. We'd have to establish a card for the healthcare system, which we don't have.


A card?

I'd suggest something similar to the Aurentine Benefit Cards now used to distribute Universal Credit Payments as a card that removes prescription charges for the holder... Children, the elderly, the disabled, and so many more groups could benefit from such a card.

I know this is unrelated, does Aurentina even have prescription charges?


I think we should be rolling all of our cards into a single national identity/benefit card.

It can be an ABC, health card, drivers license, Schengen travel document (should we so choose), etc. and not be so heavy on our citizens' wallets.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:20 pm

Battlion wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They would be paid for like a prescription drug. We have an NHS type system where healthcare is free. The system doesn't have means-testing. The UK does have a prescription charge, but contraceptives are free. We'd have to establish a card for the healthcare system, which we don't have.


A card?

I'd suggest something similar to the Aurentine Benefit Cards now used to distribute Universal Credit Payments as a card that removes prescription charges for the holder... Children, the elderly, the disabled, and so many more groups could benefit from such a card.

I know this is unrelated, does Aurentina even have prescription charges?

By a card, I mean something like an NHS number or a Canadian Health Card that identifies the recipient, which pharmacies could accept.
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Postby Jerusalemian » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:20 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Battlion wrote:
A card?

I'd suggest something similar to the Aurentine Benefit Cards now used to distribute Universal Credit Payments as a card that removes prescription charges for the holder... Children, the elderly, the disabled, and so many more groups could benefit from such a card.

I know this is unrelated, does Aurentina even have prescription charges?


I think we should be rolling all of our cards into a single national identity/benefit card.

It can be an ABC, health card, drivers license, Schengen travel document (should we so choose), etc. and not be so heavy on our citizens' wallets.

So 1 card for everything....genius! :P
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Jerusalemian wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
I think we should be rolling all of our cards into a single national identity/benefit card.

It can be an ABC, health card, drivers license, Schengen travel document (should we so choose), etc. and not be so heavy on our citizens' wallets.

So 1 card for everything....genius! :P


They all tend to show the same things, so why have the redundancy.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:23 pm

Contraceptives Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP) Urgency: Medium SIMBEDS: Health Sponsors:
The Licentian Isles(NDP), HumanSanity(RG), Malgrave(MSP), Unicario(RG), Jerusalemian(NDP)

Recognizing that family planning services, such as contraceptives, allow people who desire to have children ensure that they have the needed resources to accomplish their goals.

Aware that contraceptives can prevent unplanned pregnancies, control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and provide other health benefits.

Believing that people should be able to freely determine the number and spacing of their children,

Defines: A "contraceptive" as a device or drug seeking to prevent pregnancy.

1. The Ministry of Health shall entrusted with the responsibility of determining which contraceptives are the most effective and engaging in public service campaigns to spread awareness of these contraceptives.

2. The Ministry of Health shall fully pay for purchases of contraceptives under the national healthcare system from its budget.

I'll wait to submit this to the chambers until we figure out how the benefit would be provided.
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Postby Jerusalemian » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:24 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Jerusalemian wrote:So 1 card for everything....genius! :P


They all tend to show the same things, so why have the redundancy.

True, but if the country is to have such a card I think we should place a annual tax rate of 1.5% on the card.
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Postby Deutsche Demokratische Republik » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:24 pm

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Postby Battlion » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:25 pm

The issue with 1 card is it screws up the UC Payments, trust me... the ABC cards are not identification they are merely like credit cards. I know this because I wrote the legislation for them!

Additionally, if someone loses the 1 card they've lost their ID, and god knows what else all in one go.

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Postby Jerusalemian » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Battlion wrote:The issue with 1 card is it screws up the UC Payments, trust me... the ABC cards are not identification they are merely like credit cards. I know this because I wrote the legislation for them!

Additionally, if someone loses the 1 card they've lost their ID, and god knows what else all in one go.

Yea, but can't you put some fingerprint technology so other people can't steal your information?
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Postby Ainin » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:27 pm

We could add a NFC chip to the cards to make it easier to access the info inside.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:47 pm

Ainin wrote:We could add a NFC chip to the cards to make it easier to access the info inside.


NFC still raises issues.
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Postby Euskirribakondara » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:38 am

Geilinor wrote:
Katepano wrote:
I like the spirit of what you are doing, but why should the government give away contraceptives to everyone? Why not make it a means tested?

I would also appreciate it if someone filled me in a bit on Aurentine healthcare. How do you envision contraceptives being distributed? Normal retail stores? Health centers?

They would be paid for like a prescription drug. We have an NHS type system where healthcare is free. The system doesn't have means-testing. The UK does have a prescription charge, but contraceptives are free. We'd have to establish a card for the healthcare system, which we don't have.


There's another "weak" point in the resolution.... Which kind of contraceptives will be free? Anything from a condom to a high-tech surgery can qualify as a contraceptive..... And we have to think economically. Do we really have enough money to give out ALL kinds of contraceptives to our people?

I think it should also be SPECIFIED that there's no age limit to get a contraceptive.

BTW, is there an 'age of consent' law in Aurentina?

P.S.: I ask because it's normally 14 or 16 (here in Spain 13, hehe); but that shouldn't be an obstacle to get a contraceptive.
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Postby Potenco » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:55 am

Geilinor wrote:
Contraceptives Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP) Urgency: Medium SIMBEDS: Health Sponsors:
The Licentian Isles(NDP), HumanSanity(RG), Malgrave(MSP), Unicario(RG), Jerusalemian(NDP)

Recognizing that family planning services, such as contraceptives, allow people who desire to have children ensure that they have the needed resources to accomplish their goals.

Aware that contraceptives can prevent unplanned pregnancies, control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and provide other health benefits.

Believing that people should be able to freely determine the number and spacing of their children,

Defines: A "contraceptive" as a device or drug seeking to prevent pregnancy.

1. The Ministry of Health shall entrusted with the responsibility of determining which contraceptives are the most effective and engaging in public service campaigns to spread awareness of these contraceptives.

2. The Ministry of Health shall fully pay for purchases of contraceptives under the national healthcare system from its budget.

I'll wait to submit this to the chambers until we figure out how the benefit would be provided.

Ill sponsor this act
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:57 am

Euskirribakondara wrote:BTW, is there an 'age of consent' law in Aurentina?

P.S.: I ask because it's normally 14 or 16 (here in Spain 13, hehe); but that shouldn't be an obstacle to get a contraceptive.


I think age of consent is defined in the Criminal Code.
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:08 am

Potenco wrote:
Geilinor wrote:
Contraceptives Act

Author: Geilinor (NDP) Urgency: Medium SIMBEDS: Health Sponsors:
The Licentian Isles(NDP), HumanSanity(RG), Malgrave(MSP), Unicario(RG), Jerusalemian(NDP)

Recognizing that family planning services, such as contraceptives, allow people who desire to have children ensure that they have the needed resources to accomplish their goals.

Aware that contraceptives can prevent unplanned pregnancies, control the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, and provide other health benefits.

Believing that people should be able to freely determine the number and spacing of their children,

Defines: A "contraceptive" as a device or drug seeking to prevent pregnancy.

1. The Ministry of Health shall entrusted with the responsibility of determining which contraceptives are the most effective and engaging in public service campaigns to spread awareness of these contraceptives.

2. The Ministry of Health shall fully pay for purchases of contraceptives under the national healthcare system from its budget.

I'll wait to submit this to the chambers until we figure out how the benefit would be provided.

Ill sponsor this act

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Postby New Waterford » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:32 pm

Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act

Author: New Waterford (NDP) Sponsors: New Zephua (NDP), CTALNH (SAP), The Licentian Isles (NDP), Oneracon (RG), Britanno (NDP)
SIMBEDS: Miscellaneous
Urgency: Moderate


The Senate of Aurentina,

RECOGNISING that there is no passed legislation regarding hate speech,

ALARMED at the legal status of hate speech as a result,

HEREBY ENACTS the following provisions:

AMENDS the definition of "harmful in nature" in the Limiting Legislation Act to "slander, personal information not belonging to they who utter the information, sensitive information, open threats against another person, hate speech, and threats of open rebellion, or terrorism against our nation."

ADDS a new clause to Section E of the Criminal Code of the Aurentine Commonwealth entitled "Hate Speech", which says "Hate Speech is determined to be assault by Person X on Person Y based on their nationality, skin colour, race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs in a ridiculing, insulting or threatening manner, or in order to incite hatred towards Person Y. It is a Contravention."

HEREBY PASSES the Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act.
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:48 pm

New Waterford wrote:
Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act

Author: New Waterford (NDP) Sponsors:
Urgency: Moderate


The Senate of Aurentina,

RECOGNISING that there is no passed legislation regarding hate speech,

ALARMED at the legal status of hate speech as a result,

HEREBY ENACTS the following provisions:

AMENDS the definition of "harmful in nature" in the Limiting Legislation Act to "slander, personal information not belonging to they who utter the information, sensitive information, open threats against another person, hate speech, and threats of open rebellion, or terrorism against our nation."

ADDS a new clause to Section E of the Criminal Code of the Aurentine Commonwealth entitled "Hate Speech", which says "Hate Speech is determined to be assault by Person X on Person Y based on their nationality, skin colour, race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs in a ridiculing, insulting or threatening manner, or in order to incite hatred towards Person Y. It is a Contravention."

HEREBY PASSES the Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act.


An assault (an action) cannot be speech
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Postby Battlion » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:50 pm

Oneracon wrote:
New Waterford wrote:
Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act

Author: New Waterford (NDP) Sponsors:
Urgency: Moderate


The Senate of Aurentina,

RECOGNISING that there is no passed legislation regarding hate speech,

ALARMED at the legal status of hate speech as a result,

HEREBY ENACTS the following provisions:

AMENDS the definition of "harmful in nature" in the Limiting Legislation Act to "slander, personal information not belonging to they who utter the information, sensitive information, open threats against another person, hate speech, and threats of open rebellion, or terrorism against our nation."

ADDS a new clause to Section E of the Criminal Code of the Aurentine Commonwealth entitled "Hate Speech", which says "Hate Speech is determined to be assault by Person X on Person Y based on their nationality, skin colour, race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs in a ridiculing, insulting or threatening manner, or in order to incite hatred towards Person Y. It is a Contravention."

HEREBY PASSES the Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act.


An assault (an action) cannot be speech


Assault (in British Law) doesn't actually have any contact whatsoever.

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Postby The Union of the West » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:35 pm

Battlion wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
An assault (an action) cannot be speech


Assault (in British Law) doesn't actually have any contact whatsoever.

The only assault here is this assault on free speech.
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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:47 pm

New Waterford wrote:
Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act

Author: New Waterford (NDP) Sponsors:
Urgency: Moderate


The Senate of Aurentina,

RECOGNISING that there is no passed legislation regarding hate speech,

ALARMED at the legal status of hate speech as a result,

HEREBY ENACTS the following provisions:

AMENDS the definition of "harmful in nature" in the Limiting Legislation Act to "slander, personal information not belonging to they who utter the information, sensitive information, open threats against another person, hate speech, and threats of open rebellion, or terrorism against our nation."

ADDS a new clause to Section E of the Criminal Code of the Aurentine Commonwealth entitled "Hate Speech", which says "Hate Speech is determined to be assault by Person X on Person Y based on their nationality, skin colour, race, sexual orientation or religious beliefs in a ridiculing, insulting or threatening manner, or in order to incite hatred towards Person Y. It is a Contravention."

HEREBY PASSES the Criminalisation of Hate Speech Act.

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Postby Skeckoa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:26 pm

SIGN LANGUAGE STANDARDIZATION ACT

Author: Skeckoa (LCP); Urgency: Low; Sponsors: Ketapano (NCP), Phalnia (CMP), Union of the West (REF), Vairikal Sari (SPP)

IN RECOGNITION of the lack of a standardized form of sign language communication in Aurentina,

AND CONCERNED for the lack of attention given to the deaf community by the Senate of the Commonwealth of Aurentina

HEREBY RECOGNIZES standard British Sign Language (BSL) as the standard sign language that will be taught in public Aurentine schools that offer sign language services

IN ADDITION TO the recognition of BSL as the official sign language of Aurentina, this bill

HEREBY TASKS the Ministry of Education together with the Aurentine Deaf Community Group (ADCG) with the

CREATION OF AN OFFICIAL sign language for the Aurentine language that shall be made to be more or less intelligible with British Sign Language, accounting for the differences between the languages.

WITH THESE TASKS LAID OUT, the Senate of Aurentina

HEREBY PASSES the SIGN LANGUAGE STANDARDIZATION ACT.


Second draft dear senators. It is that time to go on fishing for sponsors again. Any one willing to drop a spoke?
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Postby The Union of the West » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:33 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
SIGN LANGUAGE STANDARDIZATION ACT

Author: Skeckoa (LCP); Urgency: Low; Sponsors: Ketapano (NCP), Phalnia (CMP)

IN RECOGNITION of the lack of a standardized form of sign language communication in Aurentina,

AND CONCERNED for the lack of attention given to the deaf community by the Senate of the Commonwealth of Aurentina

HEREBY RECOGNIZES standard British Sign Language (BSL) as the standard sign language that will be taught in public Aurentine schools that offer sign language services

IN ADDITION TO the recognition of BSL as the official sign language of Aurentina, this bill

HEREBY TASKS the Ministry of Education together with the Aurentine Deaf Community Group (ADCG) with the

CREATION OF AN OFFICIAL sign language for the Aurentine language that shall be made to be more or less intelligible with British Sign Language, accounting for the differences between the languages.

WITH THESE TASKS LAID OUT, the Senate of Aurentina

HEREBY PASSES the SIGN LANGUAGE STANDARDIZATION ACT.


Second draft dear senators. It is that time to go on fishing for sponsors again. Any one willing to drop a spoke?

I'll Sponsor!
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Postby Skeckoa » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:45 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Skeckoa wrote:-snip-

I'll Sponsor!


8) 8) Thank you and added
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Postby Vairikai Sari » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:02 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:I'll Sponsor!


8) 8) Thank you and added

So will i :) :p

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