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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:46 pm

Oneracon wrote:While I realize we are a little occupied with the presidential election and ministerial selections... I would like to present AURA, the improved version of UREA (made with the permission of Threlizdun), for critique.

Access to Unisex Restrooms Act
Urgency: High| Authors: Oneracon [RG], Threlizdun [C] | Category: Health
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG], Venaleria [RG], HumanSanity [RG], Ainin [TR], Geilinor [LD]



RECOGNIZING the extreme discomfort and psychological harm transgender and intersex individuals face when pressured into using a restroom that does not match their gender identity;

ADDITIONALLY RECOGNIZING the issues with restroom facilities involving handicapped users and an opposite-sex attendant, or a parent caring for a child of the opposite sex;

OBSERVING the success seen by the establishment of unisex restrooms in many nations around the world with resolving the aforementioned issues;

REALIZING the potential for unisex restrooms to one day replace those assigned to one sex or gender;

NOTING that much of the population is not yet prepared for the total abandonment of restrooms segregated by sex;

HEREBY ENACTS the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act "small businesses" shall be defined as an unincorporated or private limited business which is not bankrupt, employs 50 or fewer persons, and earns less than £1,000,000 in gross revenue per year.
  2. For the purposes of this Act "public restrooms" shall be defined as any restroom facility that is available for use by the general public or for employees and/or consumers of a business or service.
  3. For the purposes of this Act "private facilities" shall be defined as any building that does not fall under the category of public facilities.
  4. For the purposes of this Act "public facilities" shall be defined as any building owned and/or operated by any level of government as well as any building, including privately owned, which are necessary for the health and well-being of the general public. This includes, but is not limited to:
    • Hospitals and other buildings housing medical services
    • Emergency services (fire, police, ambulance)
    • Military facilities
    • Recreational centres and parks
    • Schools
    • Libraries
    • Buildings which house one or more offices of government services

    Timeline for Implementation
  5. All public facilities shall construct unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms, by no more than one (1) year following the ratification of this Act.
  6. All private facilities shall construct unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms, by no more than two (2) years following the ratification of this Act.
  7. All public and private facilities constructed following the ratification of this Act shall include unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms.
  8. Unisex public restrooms shall completely replace segregated public restrooms within ten (10) years of this Act’s ratification.

    Use of Segregated Public Restrooms
  9. Male and female public restrooms shall hereby be segregated by gender and not sex.
  10. All persons shall be permitted to use the public restroom which corresponds to their gender identity.

    Funding
  11. The costs of unisex public restroom construction in public facilities owned by the Government of the Aurentine Commonwealth shall be directly subsidized by the Ministry of Finance.

    Unisex Restroom Establishment Fund
  12. The Unisex Restroom Establishment Fund (UREF) shall be established under the supervision of the Minister of Finance to aid small businesses and lower levels of government in complying with this Act.
  13. Small businesses or lower levels of government that apply to the UREF shall be entitled to a rebate equal to 50-99% of the construction costs of unisex public restroom(s), dependent on financial need.
  14. The UREF shall be disbanded eleven (11) years after this Act's ratification.

    Clarifications
  15. For greater clarification, the provisions of this Act have no effect on any building which would not normally contain public restrooms.


Tyranny by majority, how do think Women will feel having to share a restroom with man(Maybe even viceversa)? Many will be outraged by this, think about the greater chance of promiscuity, the rules of public decency and the reasons why many Clubs for example have bouncers on all restroom doors.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:51 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:While I realize we are a little occupied with the presidential election and ministerial selections... I would like to present AURA, the improved version of UREA (made with the permission of Threlizdun), for critique.

Access to Unisex Restrooms Act
Urgency: High| Authors: Oneracon [RG], Threlizdun [C] | Category: Health
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG], Venaleria [RG], HumanSanity [RG], Ainin [TR], Geilinor [LD]



RECOGNIZING the extreme discomfort and psychological harm transgender and intersex individuals face when pressured into using a restroom that does not match their gender identity;

ADDITIONALLY RECOGNIZING the issues with restroom facilities involving handicapped users and an opposite-sex attendant, or a parent caring for a child of the opposite sex;

OBSERVING the success seen by the establishment of unisex restrooms in many nations around the world with resolving the aforementioned issues;

REALIZING the potential for unisex restrooms to one day replace those assigned to one sex or gender;

NOTING that much of the population is not yet prepared for the total abandonment of restrooms segregated by sex;

HEREBY ENACTS the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act "small businesses" shall be defined as an unincorporated or private limited business which is not bankrupt, employs 50 or fewer persons, and earns less than £1,000,000 in gross revenue per year.
  2. For the purposes of this Act "public restrooms" shall be defined as any restroom facility that is available for use by the general public or for employees and/or consumers of a business or service.
  3. For the purposes of this Act "private facilities" shall be defined as any building that does not fall under the category of public facilities.
  4. For the purposes of this Act "public facilities" shall be defined as any building owned and/or operated by any level of government as well as any building, including privately owned, which are necessary for the health and well-being of the general public. This includes, but is not limited to:
    • Hospitals and other buildings housing medical services
    • Emergency services (fire, police, ambulance)
    • Military facilities
    • Recreational centres and parks
    • Schools
    • Libraries
    • Buildings which house one or more offices of government services

    Timeline for Implementation
  5. All public facilities shall construct unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms, by no more than one (1) year following the ratification of this Act.
  6. All private facilities shall construct unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms, by no more than two (2) years following the ratification of this Act.
  7. All public and private facilities constructed following the ratification of this Act shall include unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms.
  8. Unisex public restrooms shall completely replace segregated public restrooms within ten (10) years of this Act’s ratification.

    Use of Segregated Public Restrooms
  9. Male and female public restrooms shall hereby be segregated by gender and not sex.
  10. All persons shall be permitted to use the public restroom which corresponds to their gender identity.

    Funding
  11. The costs of unisex public restroom construction in public facilities owned by the Government of the Aurentine Commonwealth shall be directly subsidized by the Ministry of Finance.

    Unisex Restroom Establishment Fund
  12. The Unisex Restroom Establishment Fund (UREF) shall be established under the supervision of the Minister of Finance to aid small businesses and lower levels of government in complying with this Act.
  13. Small businesses or lower levels of government that apply to the UREF shall be entitled to a rebate equal to 50-99% of the construction costs of unisex public restroom(s), dependent on financial need.
  14. The UREF shall be disbanded eleven (11) years after this Act's ratification.

    Clarifications
  15. For greater clarification, the provisions of this Act have no effect on any building which would not normally contain public restrooms.


Tyranny by majority, how do think Women will feel having to share a restroom with man(Maybe even viceversa)? Many will be outraged by this, think about the greater chance of promiscuity, the rules of public decency and the reasons why many Clubs for example have bouncers on all restroom doors.


The bill gives all entities the option to construct said washrooms "either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms". It is up to the entities' concerned which of the two choices they follow.

While we're on the topic of feelings, Senator...
  • How do you think a vulnerable elderly person feels when they have to go into a washroom without their attendant, who may be of the opposite gender?
  • How do you think a mother feels when her son has to use a separate washroom because she can't go in with him?
  • How do you think a transgender individual feels when they can't use either of the two public restrooms because they'll be told that it's the "wrong" one or possibly become the victim of serious physical harm?
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:53 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Tyranny by majority, how do think Women will feel having to share a restroom with man(Maybe even viceversa)? Many will be outraged by this, think about the greater chance of promiscuity, the rules of public decency and the reasons why many Clubs for example have bouncers on all restroom doors.


The bill gives all entities the option to construct said washrooms "either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms". It is up to the entities' concerned which of the two choices they follow.

While we're on the topic of feelings, Senator...
  • How do you think vulnerable elderly people will feel when they have to go into a washroom without their attendant, who may be of the opposite gender?
  • How do you think a mother feels when her son has to use a separate washroom because she can't go in with him?
  • How do you think a transgender individual feels when they can't use either of the two public restrooms because they'll be told that it's the "wrong" one or possibly become the victim of serious physical harm?

I agree that there are areas of concern, so we must have unisex restrooms available. Building them is not an affront to decency, not building them is.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:55 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:While I realize we are a little occupied with the presidential election and ministerial selections... I would like to present AURA, the improved version of UREA (made with the permission of Threlizdun), for critique.

Access to Unisex Restrooms Act
Urgency: High| Authors: Oneracon [RG], Threlizdun [C] | Category: Health
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG], Venaleria [RG], HumanSanity [RG], Ainin [TR], Geilinor [LD]



RECOGNIZING the extreme discomfort and psychological harm transgender and intersex individuals face when pressured into using a restroom that does not match their gender identity;

ADDITIONALLY RECOGNIZING the issues with restroom facilities involving handicapped users and an opposite-sex attendant, or a parent caring for a child of the opposite sex;

OBSERVING the success seen by the establishment of unisex restrooms in many nations around the world with resolving the aforementioned issues;

REALIZING the potential for unisex restrooms to one day replace those assigned to one sex or gender;

NOTING that much of the population is not yet prepared for the total abandonment of restrooms segregated by sex;

HEREBY ENACTS the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act "small businesses" shall be defined as an unincorporated or private limited business which is not bankrupt, employs 50 or fewer persons, and earns less than £1,000,000 in gross revenue per year.
  2. For the purposes of this Act "public restrooms" shall be defined as any restroom facility that is available for use by the general public or for employees and/or consumers of a business or service.
  3. For the purposes of this Act "private facilities" shall be defined as any building that does not fall under the category of public facilities.
  4. For the purposes of this Act "public facilities" shall be defined as any building owned and/or operated by any level of government as well as any building, including privately owned, which are necessary for the health and well-being of the general public. This includes, but is not limited to:
    • Hospitals and other buildings housing medical services
    • Emergency services (fire, police, ambulance)
    • Military facilities
    • Recreational centres and parks
    • Schools
    • Libraries
    • Buildings which house one or more offices of government services

    Timeline for Implementation
  5. All public facilities shall construct unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms, by no more than one (1) year following the ratification of this Act.
  6. All private facilities shall construct unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms, by no more than two (2) years following the ratification of this Act.
  7. All public and private facilities constructed following the ratification of this Act shall include unisex public restrooms, either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms.
  8. Unisex public restrooms shall completely replace segregated public restrooms within ten (10) years of this Act’s ratification.

    Use of Segregated Public Restrooms
  9. Male and female public restrooms shall hereby be segregated by gender and not sex.
  10. All persons shall be permitted to use the public restroom which corresponds to their gender identity.

    Funding
  11. The costs of unisex public restroom construction in public facilities owned by the Government of the Aurentine Commonwealth shall be directly subsidized by the Ministry of Finance.

    Unisex Restroom Establishment Fund
  12. The Unisex Restroom Establishment Fund (UREF) shall be established under the supervision of the Minister of Finance to aid small businesses and lower levels of government in complying with this Act.
  13. Small businesses or lower levels of government that apply to the UREF shall be entitled to a rebate equal to 50-99% of the construction costs of unisex public restroom(s), dependent on financial need.
  14. The UREF shall be disbanded eleven (11) years after this Act's ratification.

    Clarifications
  15. For greater clarification, the provisions of this Act have no effect on any building which would not normally contain public restrooms.


Tyranny by majority, how do think Women will feel having to share a restroom with man(Maybe even viceversa)? Many will be outraged by this, think about the greater chance of promiscuity, the rules of public decency and the reasons why many Clubs for example have bouncers on all restroom doors.

Let me just give you an example of a unisex restroom that would replace both a men's and a women's restroom:
1.) You enter the restroom.
2.) You see a big hallway with sinks at the front and a row of stalls.
3.) You go into a stall.
4.) The stall has both a toilet and a urinal in it.
The sexes wouldn't have to interact at all except in the hall area. No more exposure than you get walking in public.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:56 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Tyranny by majority, how do think Women will feel having to share a restroom with man(Maybe even viceversa)? Many will be outraged by this, think about the greater chance of promiscuity, the rules of public decency and the reasons why many Clubs for example have bouncers on all restroom doors.


The bill gives all entities the option to construct said washrooms "either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms". It is up to the entities' concerned which of the two choices they follow.

While we're on the topic of feelings, Senator...
  • How do you think vulnerable elderly people will feel when they have to go into a washroom without their attendant, who may be of the opposite gender?
  • How do you think a mother feels when her son has to use a separate washroom because she can't go in with him?
  • How do you think a transgender individual feels when they can't use either of the two public restrooms because they'll be told that it's the "wrong" one?


They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior such as peering over stalls.

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:57 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
The bill gives all entities the option to construct said washrooms "either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms". It is up to the entities' concerned which of the two choices they follow.

While we're on the topic of feelings, Senator...
  • How do you think vulnerable elderly people will feel when they have to go into a washroom without their attendant, who may be of the opposite gender?
  • How do you think a mother feels when her son has to use a separate washroom because she can't go in with him?
  • How do you think a transgender individual feels when they can't use either of the two public restrooms because they'll be told that it's the "wrong" one?


They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior.

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.


I am not the one who is scaremongering, Senator.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:58 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
The bill gives all entities the option to construct said washrooms "either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms". It is up to the entities' concerned which of the two choices they follow.

While we're on the topic of feelings, Senator...
  • How do you think vulnerable elderly people will feel when they have to go into a washroom without their attendant, who may be of the opposite gender?
  • How do you think a mother feels when her son has to use a separate washroom because she can't go in with him?
  • How do you think a transgender individual feels when they can't use either of the two public restrooms because they'll be told that it's the "wrong" one?


They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior.

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.

Disabled toilets are unisex. This bill would allow for the establishment of unisex restrooms that transgenders can use as well. Also, if someone wanted to have sex, there are plenty of places to do that. Stalls also have locks.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:58 pm

Oneracon wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior.

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.


I am not the one who is scaremongering, Senator.


So you are OK giving people the opportunity to peer over stalls and have sex in public?
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:58 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
The bill gives all entities the option to construct said washrooms "either in addition to or in place of male and female public restrooms". It is up to the entities' concerned which of the two choices they follow.

While we're on the topic of feelings, Senator...
  • How do you think vulnerable elderly people will feel when they have to go into a washroom without their attendant, who may be of the opposite gender?
  • How do you think a mother feels when her son has to use a separate washroom because she can't go in with him?
  • How do you think a transgender individual feels when they can't use either of the two public restrooms because they'll be told that it's the "wrong" one?


They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior such as peering over stalls.

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.

He raises valid concerns Senator. I suggest you heed them.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:58 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
I am not the one who is scaremongering, Senator.


So you are OK giving people the opportunity to peer over stalls and have sex in public?


No,however your concerns seem rather unusual given that both of those actions already occur in "segregated" washrooms. A plastic sign is not a forcefield, Senator.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:59 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
I am not the one who is scaremongering, Senator.


So you are OK giving people the opportunity to peer over stalls and have sex in public?

That isn't confined to unisex restrooms. Same-sex sexual activity exists as well.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:00 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior such as peering over stalls.

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.

He raises valid concerns Senator. I suggest you heed them.


I must respectfully disagree, Senator.

All of the actions which he described already occur in gender-segregated public restrooms, if anything they will be reduced thanks to the increased amount of people who would use a unisex restroom.
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Tyranny by majority, how do think Women will feel having to share a restroom with man(Maybe even viceversa)? Many will be outraged by this, think about the greater chance of promiscuity, the rules of public decency and the reasons why many Clubs for example have bouncers on all restroom doors.

Let me just give you an example of a unisex restroom that would replace both a men's and a women's restroom:
1.) You enter the restroom.
2.) You see a big hallway with sinks at the front and a row of stalls.
3.) You go into a stall.
4.) The stall has both a toilet and a urinal in it.
The sexes wouldn't have to interact at all except in the hall area. No more exposure than you get walking in public.

Nihilistic, please explain how such a restroom would increase the chance of sex. They could sneak into an empty segregated restroom or go in a closet.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:01 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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They will go in the one that applies to their physical appearance. I am talking about the increased chance of rape with drunk individuals together in toilets, sex in a cubical. Disgusting acts of public behavior. :mad:

You know as well as I that a child can go into a restroom with his mother or her father. Vulnerable elderly people have disabled toilets. Your scaremongering is low senator.

Disabled toilets are unisex. This bill would allow for the establishment of unisex restrooms that transgenders can use as well. Also, if someone wanted to have sex, there are plenty of places to do that. Stalls also have locks.


So why can't the trans people go in the disabled toilets or have one like that? They are unisex because they are individual facilities for the use of one person at a time.

Locks that can be opened with a simple coin, gaps at the top and bottom one can crawl or climb over, really it is a huge amount of cost and upheaval that brings more negatives than positives.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:02 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Let me just give you an example of a unisex restroom that would replace both a men's and a women's restroom:
1.) You enter the restroom.
2.) You see a big hallway with sinks at the front and a row of stalls.
3.) You go into a stall.
4.) The stall has both a toilet and a urinal in it.
The sexes wouldn't have to interact at all except in the hall area. No more exposure than you get walking in public.

Nihilistic, please explain how such a restroom would increase the chance of sex. They could sneak into an empty segregated restroom or go in a closet.


Like I said before, can you imagine what would happen in clubs? It is bad enough as it is without handing this on a plate.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:03 pm

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Geilinor wrote:Disabled toilets are unisex. This bill would allow for the establishment of unisex restrooms that transgenders can use as well. Also, if someone wanted to have sex, there are plenty of places to do that. Stalls also have locks.


So why can't the trans people go in the disabled toilets or have one like that? They are unisex because they are individual facilities for the use of one person at a time.


The bill allows for the creation of unisex restrooms in addition to segregated restrooms or the replacement of segregated restrooms with unisex restrooms. The former, which I expect most businesses will choose, is what you are talking about.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:03 pm

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So you are OK giving people the opportunity to peer over stalls and have sex in public?


No,however your concerns seem rather unusual given that both of those actions already occur in "segregated" washrooms. A plastic sign is not a forcefield, Senator.


It is when in the most at risk areas a security guard is on the door.
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:04 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:Locks that can be opened with a simple coin, gaps at the top and bottom one can crawl or climb over, really it is a huge amount of cost and upheaval that brings more negatives than positives.


Firstly: This bill does not specify that unisex washrooms be more than a single toilet, though it is implicitly encouraged.

Secondly: Not all public restrooms are constructed that way, Senator. This bill may prove to be a catalyst to more private styles of restrooms as government agencies, businesses, and other entities adapt.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:05 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Disabled toilets are unisex. This bill would allow for the establishment of unisex restrooms that transgenders can use as well. Also, if someone wanted to have sex, there are plenty of places to do that. Stalls also have locks.


Locks that can be opened with a simple coin, gaps at the top and bottom one can crawl or climb over, really it is a huge amount of cost and upheaval that brings more negatives than positives.

Why are you only afraid of public sexual activity in unisex restrooms? Same-sex activity can easily occur in segregated restrooms. You're acting like heterosexual relationships are the only ones that exist.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:15 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Locks that can be opened with a simple coin, gaps at the top and bottom one can crawl or climb over, really it is a huge amount of cost and upheaval that brings more negatives than positives.

Why are you only afraid of public sexual activity in unisex restrooms? Same-sex activity can easily occur in segregated restrooms. You're acting like heterosexual relationships are the only ones that exist.


No I am acting in a way that reduces such behavior in general. Your argument reminds me of that stupid B**** Harriet Harman. A few years ago she forced a law change to the defence against murder charge. For a long time a man could claim a crime of passion to get off a murder charge to manslaughter and a woman could not, so what did she do? Make it so that instead of nobody having the defence she gave it to everyone. How stupid is that, it does not matter why one does it Murder is wrong in any situation apart from self-defence. A similar situation exists here but obviously in a much less extreme way, instead of working out a way to reduce such behavior for the few who can do it more easily (Gays etc) you wish to give everyone the chance to do this easily. Think of schools for example and how difficult it would now be for teachers to catch such behavior in the school. I am not religious in anyway but there are certain standards of public decency that must be held and the government should not make its business to pass laws that threaten to erode this.

I can't believe your defence is "Well gays can do it already"
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:31 pm

Going for a two-fer submission of Health bills today!

I present the Food Labelling and Allergen Safety Act...

Food Labelling and Allergen Safety Act
Urgency: High| Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Health
Co-sponsors: Maklohi Vai [LD], The Nihilistic view [NLP], New Zepuha [UIP], Belmaria [LCP]

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

NOTING the need for consumers to understand the ingredients of food products that they purchase and consume.

ADDITIONALLY NOTING that this is becoming increasingly important as cases of food allergies, in some cases life-threatenting, are become more prevalent throughout the developed world;

SEEKING to protect the health and safety of Aurentines and their families;

FURTHER SEEKING to harmonize food labelling laws with our European and North American trading partners;

HEREBY enacts the following:

    Definitions
  1. For the purposes of this Act, "food" is defined as any article manufactured, sold or represented commercially for use as food or drink for human beings, chewing gum, and/or any ingredient that may be mixed with food for any purpose whatever
  2. For the purposes of this Act, "allergen" is defined as a food which can cause an allergic reaction.
  3. For the purposes of this Act, "cross-contamination" is defined as the indirect contamination of one or more foods which do not contain an allergen by foods which do.
  4. For the purposes of this Act, "plain language" is defined as clear, succinct writing designed to ensure the reader understands as quickly and completely as possible.
  5. For the purposes of this Act, "label" is defined as any legend, word or mark attached to, included in, belonging to or accompanying any food or package containing food.
  6. For the purposes of this Act, "gluten" is defined as any gluten protein or modified protein, including any protein fraction derived from the grains of barley, oats, rye, triticale, wheat, kamut or spelt, or any hybridization of said grains.
  7. For the purposes of this Act, "food purveyor" is defined as any individual or entity that prepares food for immediate consumption as a means of business. This includes (but is not limited to): restaurants, bars and other drinking establishments, catering services, food trucks, and food stands.

    Priority Allergens
  8. For the purposes of this Act, a "priority allergen" is defined as any one of the following allergens:
    1. almonds, Brazil nuts, cashews, hazelnuts, macadamia nuts, pecans, pine nuts, pistachios, or walnuts;
    2. peanuts;
    3. sesame seeds;
    4. wheat or triticale;
    5. eggs;
    6. milk;
    7. soybeans;
    8. crustaceans;
    9. shellfish;
    10. fish; or
    11. mustard seeds
    Labelling Requirement
  9. All packaged food sold shall be accompanied by a label listing all ingredients of said food, including any ingredients of ingredients.
  10. All food labels shall be printed in a font size and font colour that are easily visible and legible.

    Labelling of Priority Allergens
  11. The presence of any priority allergen(s) shall be declared on the aforementioned ingredient label in plain language and avoiding the use of local or colloquial names.
    1. In the event that an ingredient is a byproduct of a priority allergen the name of the priority allergen shall be given in brackets following the name of the ingredient, such as "Casein (Milk)" or "Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (Soy)".
    2. All priority allergens present in the food shall futher be declared at the end of the list of ingredients in a statement reading "CONTAINS: <list of priority allergens>" in a bold-face font.
    Labelling of Other Food-borne Health Concerns
  12. The presence of gluten and/or sulphites at levels greater than 10 parts per million shall be declared on the aforementioned ingredient label at the end of the list of ingredients in addition to priority allergens.

    Duties of Food Purveyors
  13. All food purveyors shall provide a list of ingredients that is equivalent to a food label compliant with this Act upon request.
  14. All food purveyors shall act at all times to avoid cross-contamination in the preparation of food.

    Exceptions
  15. The following foods are exempt from the provisions of this Act:
    1. One-bite confectionery, such as a candy or a stick of chewing gum, sold individually
    2. Fresh fruit or vegetables packaged in a wrapper or confining band of less than 1/2 inch (12.7 mm) in width.
    Amendments to Other Acts
  16. Section a-1 of the national health rating system criteria in the Food Service Sanitation Act shall be struck out, rendered null and void, and replaced with the following:
      Are employees trained to prepare and serve food and drink properly so as to prevent cross-contamination of priority allergens?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:34 pm

As will I.
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Postby Belmaria » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:31 am

I suppose I will tack onto the sponsors list as well. Now we have the 5 needed, so it needs to be added to the queue.
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