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Postby Ainin » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:21 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
Ainin wrote:-snip-


Eww.... What's worse? That Americano or us proposing that we know what is best for teenagers, and not their parents in addition to themselves.

Definitely the Americano.
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Ainin wrote:-snip-

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Postby Katepano » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:00 pm

Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions


Why not ban tobacco and alcohol while you're at it? I'd consent to the required health advisory or requiring a guardian to make the purchase. I'd even support a tax on it, but banning seems excessive.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:02 pm

Katepano wrote:
Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions


Why not ban tobacco and alcohol while you're at it? I'd consent to the required health advisory or requiring a guardian to make the purchase. I'd even support a tax on it, but banning seems excessive.

Not if the ban is targeted towards children. Tobacco and alcohol are illegal for children.
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Postby Ainin » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:03 pm

Katepano wrote:Why not ban tobacco and alcohol while you're at it?

IIRC, they are banned for children.
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Postby Dragomere » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:16 pm

Placenza wrote:
Ainin wrote:
Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions
Author: Ainin [TR] | SIMBEDS Category: Health | Urgency: Very Low
Sponsors:

The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that it is the general consensus of the medical community that the usage of sunbeds by minors puts them at a much higher risk of cancer,

Realizing this may, and almost certainly will, put a heavy strain on the Aurentine healthcare system in the long term,

Affirming that it is the duty of the government to protect children, whose ability of free thought may be heavily influenced by factors such as peer pressure,

Understanding that immediate action must be taken,

Enacting the following sections,

Section I - Definitions
a) Sunbed is defined as a device or chamber emitting ultraviolet radiation for the primary purpose of tanning.
b) Tanning is defined as the act of darkening the skin through willful exposure to ultraviolet radiation.

Section II - Restrictions on Usage of Sunbeds by Minors
a) All persons under the age of eighteen (18), to be known for the purpose of this act as minors, along with its singular form, are prohibited from using sunbeds.
b) With the signed consent of a practicing physician acting in an official capacity, a minor may use a sunbed for medical purposes only.
c) Proprietors and employees of properties containing sunbeds must ask for a passport, a Universal Credit benefit card or a drivers' license before authorizing the usage of one.
d) On all tanning beds must be marked in large, visible letters, the following text:
SUNBEDS CAN CAUSE CANCER. For your own safety, use responsibly. 18+ only.

Section III - Prohibition of Propaganda Relating to Sunbeds
a) Encouraging a minor to use a sunbed is Incitement of a Minor to Illegal Activities, a derelict.
b) Allowing a minor to operate a sunbed is Reckless Endangerment, a derelict.
c) Failing to ask for identification before allowing usage of a sunbed is Improper Practice, a contravention.
d) The illegal usage of a sunbed is Failure to Respect a Statute, a contravention.

Section IV - Regulations on Usage of Sunbeds
a) All sunbeds must be registered with, and licensed by, the Ministry of Health.
b) The Ministry is charged with inspecting all sunbeds in the Aurentine Commonwealth once per 12 months (1 year).
c) It is strongly suggested inspectors disguise themselves as clients.
d) Any proprietor violating regulations regarding their sunbeds may be fined up to £1,000 (GBP) or have the device itself confiscated, excluding any additional charges.

Hereby passes the Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions (ASSISTANCE).

I Sponsor

I will support this.

I hereby sponsor this legislation.
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Postby Fulflood » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:57 pm

Ainin wrote:
Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions
Author: Ainin [TR] | SIMBEDS Category: Health | Urgency: Very Low
Sponsors: Placenza [ATBP], Gothmogs [TR], New Vangskria [LFP], Geilinor [LD]

The Senate of Aurentina,

-snip-

I would consider sponsoring, but the name....ugh
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:04 am

Fulflood wrote:
Ainin wrote:
Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions
Author: Ainin [TR] | SIMBEDS Category: Health | Urgency: Very Low
Sponsors: Placenza [ATBP], Gothmogs [TR], New Vangskria [LFP], Geilinor [LD]

The Senate of Aurentina,

-snip-

I would consider sponsoring, but the name....ugh

ASSISTANCE

Yeah, I know. Ainin, y u do?
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Postby Agritum » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:36 am

Ainin wrote:
Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions
Author: Ainin [TR] | SIMBEDS Category: Health | Urgency: Very Low
Sponsors: Placenza [ATBP], Gothmogs [TR], New Vangskria [LFP], Geilinor [LD]

The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that it is the general consensus of the medical community that the usage of sunbeds by minors puts them at a much higher risk of cancer,

Realizing this may, and almost certainly will, put a heavy strain on the Aurentine healthcare system in the long term,

Affirming that it is the duty of the government to protect children, whose ability of free thought may be heavily influenced by factors such as peer pressure,

Understanding that immediate action must be taken,

Enacting the following sections,

Section I - Definitions
a) Sunbed is defined as a device or chamber emitting ultraviolet radiation for the primary purpose of tanning.
b) Tanning is defined as the act of darkening the skin through willful exposure to ultraviolet radiation.

Section II - Restrictions on Usage of Sunbeds by Minors
a) All persons under the age of eighteen (18), to be known for the purpose of this act as minors, along with its singular form, are prohibited from using sunbeds.
b) With the signed consent of a practicing physician acting in an official capacity, a minor may use a sunbed for medical purposes only.
c) Proprietors and employees of properties containing sunbeds must ask for a passport, a Universal Credit benefit card or a drivers' license before authorizing the usage of one.
d) On all tanning beds must be marked in large, visible letters, the following text:
SUNBEDS CAN CAUSE CANCER. For your own safety, use responsibly. 18+ only.

Section III - Prohibition of Propaganda Relating to Sunbeds
a) Encouraging a minor to use a sunbed is Incitement of a Minor to Illegal Activities, a derelict.
b) Allowing a minor to operate a sunbed is Reckless Endangerment, a derelict.
c) Failing to ask for identification before allowing usage of a sunbed is Improper Practice, a contravention.
d) The illegal usage of a sunbed is Failure to Respect a Statute, a contravention.

Section IV - Regulations on Usage of Sunbeds
a) All sunbeds must be registered with, and licensed by, the Ministry of Health.
b) The Ministry is charged with inspecting all sunbeds in the Aurentine Commonwealth once per 12 months (1 year).
c) It is strongly suggested inspectors disguise themselves as clients.
d) Any proprietor violating regulations regarding their sunbeds may be fined up to £1,000 (GBP) or have the device itself confiscated, excluding any additional charges.

Hereby passes the Artificial Sunbathing Statute for Influenceable Schoolchildren and Teenagers Acting for the Nonproliferation of Cancerous Emissions (ASSISTANCE).

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Postby Unicario » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:47 am

Dragomere wrote:
Placenza wrote:I Sponsor

I will support this.

I hereby sponsor this legislation.


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Postby Katepano » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:06 am

Geilinor wrote:
Katepano wrote:
Why not ban tobacco and alcohol while you're at it? I'd consent to the required health advisory or requiring a guardian to make the purchase. I'd even support a tax on it, but banning seems excessive.

Not if the ban is targeted towards children. Tobacco and alcohol are illegal for children.


If I'm not mistaken, alcohol can be legally consumed before 18 in many countries.

Alcohol and tobacco also have other reasons for being banned. Tobacco is addictive, so an individual can become addicted before reaching the age of majority. Alcohol consumption impairs brain development and can impair judgement to the point of being life threatening.

While sun bathing in the long-term increases the chances of developing cancer, there is no immediate danger to an individual.
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Postby Oneracon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:41 am

I sponsor both ASSISTANCE and the AMBER Alert Act.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:44 am

Responsible Budget of 2013
Authors: Belmaria (LCP) New Bierstaat (LCP) Urgency: Severe SIMBEDS Category: Business and Finance Sponsors: Skeckoa (LCP) Central and Eastern Visayas (Ind)


Personal Taxation:
The following formula will be used to allocate tax rates to various income levels. The highest tax rate shall be 40%.
Image

Business Taxation:
The following formula illustrates the tax rates applied at various levels of business income.
t=.3-.25e^-(2.526x/1,000,000)
t = tax rate paid
x = business profit earned in the previous year

Spending allocation:
The following list outlines amounts of funding to be allocated to each area of government.
Defense - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Welfare - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Emergency Management - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Administration - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Education - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Labor - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Research - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Infrastructure and Communications - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Energy - 10% (£31,949,595,633)


Overall Figures:
Personal Income Tax Revenue: £192,596,040,203
Business Income Tax Revenue: £127,215,492,774
Tariff Revenue: £16,500,000,000
Total Revenue: £336,311,532,977

Expenditures: £319,495,956,328

Operating Surplus: £16,815,576,649
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:45 am

Belmaria wrote:
Responsible Budget of 2013
Authors: Belmaria (LCP) New Bierstaat (LCP) Urgency: Severe SIMBEDS Category: Business and Finance Sponsors: Skeckoa (LCP)


Personal Taxation:
The following formula will be used to allocate tax rates to various income levels. The highest tax rate shall be 40%.
(Image)

Business Taxation:
The following formula illustrates the tax rates applied at various levels of business income.
t=.3-.25e^-(2.526x/1,000,000)
t = tax rate paid
x = business profit earned in the previous year

Spending allocation:
The following list outlines amounts of funding to be allocated to each area of government.
Defense - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Welfare - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Emergency Management - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Administration - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Education - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Labor - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Research - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Infrastructure and Communications - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Energy - 10% (£31,949,595,633)


Overall Figures:
Personal Income Tax Revenue: £192,596,040,203
Business Income Tax Revenue: £127,215,492,774
Tariff Revenue: £16,500,000,000
Total Revenue: £336,311,532,977

Expenditures: £319,495,956,328

Operating Surplus: £16,815,576,649

*fixes glasses*

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Postby Britanno » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:48 am

Belmaria wrote:
Responsible Budget of 2013
Authors: Belmaria (LCP) New Bierstaat (LCP) Urgency: Severe SIMBEDS Category: Business and Finance Sponsors: Skeckoa (LCP)


Personal Taxation:
The following formula will be used to allocate tax rates to various income levels. The highest tax rate shall be 40%.
(Image)

Business Taxation:
The following formula illustrates the tax rates applied at various levels of business income.
t=.3-.25e^-(2.526x/1,000,000)
t = tax rate paid
x = business profit earned in the previous year

Spending allocation:
The following list outlines amounts of funding to be allocated to each area of government.
Defense - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Welfare - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Emergency Management - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Administration - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Education - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Labor - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Research - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Infrastructure and Communications - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Energy - 10% (£31,949,595,633)


Overall Figures:
Personal Income Tax Revenue: £192,596,040,203
Business Income Tax Revenue: £127,215,492,774
Tariff Revenue: £16,500,000,000
Total Revenue: £336,311,532,977

Expenditures: £319,495,956,328

Operating Surplus: £16,815,576,649


That is without a doubt the worst spending plan I have ever seen. You need to repeal universal healthcare before you stop funding it.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:49 am

Belmaria wrote:
Responsible Budget of 2013
Authors: Belmaria (LCP) New Bierstaat (LCP) Urgency: Severe SIMBEDS Category: Business and Finance Sponsors: Skeckoa (LCP) Central and Eastern Visayas (Ind)


Personal Taxation:
The following formula will be used to allocate tax rates to various income levels. The highest tax rate shall be 40%.
(Image)

Business Taxation:
The following formula illustrates the tax rates applied at various levels of business income.
t=.3-.25e^-(2.526x/1,000,000)
t = tax rate paid
x = business profit earned in the previous year

Spending allocation:
The following list outlines amounts of funding to be allocated to each area of government.
Defense - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Welfare - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Emergency Management - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Administration - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Education - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Labor - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Research - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Infrastructure and Communications - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Energy - 10% (£31,949,595,633)


Overall Figures:
Personal Income Tax Revenue: £192,596,040,203
Business Income Tax Revenue: £127,215,492,774
Tariff Revenue: £16,500,000,000
Total Revenue: £336,311,532,977

Expenditures: £319,495,956,328

Operating Surplus: £16,815,576,649

You want to spend more than India or Germany on defense? Opposed.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:50 am

Britanno wrote:
Belmaria wrote:
Responsible Budget of 2013
Authors: Belmaria (LCP) New Bierstaat (LCP) Urgency: Severe SIMBEDS Category: Business and Finance Sponsors: Skeckoa (LCP)


Personal Taxation:
The following formula will be used to allocate tax rates to various income levels. The highest tax rate shall be 40%.
(Image)

Business Taxation:
The following formula illustrates the tax rates applied at various levels of business income.
t=.3-.25e^-(2.526x/1,000,000)
t = tax rate paid
x = business profit earned in the previous year

Spending allocation:
The following list outlines amounts of funding to be allocated to each area of government.
Defense - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Welfare - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Emergency Management - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Administration - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Education - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Labor - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Research - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Infrastructure and Communications - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Energy - 10% (£31,949,595,633)


Overall Figures:
Personal Income Tax Revenue: £192,596,040,203
Business Income Tax Revenue: £127,215,492,774
Tariff Revenue: £16,500,000,000
Total Revenue: £336,311,532,977

Expenditures: £319,495,956,328

Operating Surplus: £16,815,576,649


That is without a doubt the worst spending plan I have ever seen. You need to repeal universal healthcare before you stop funding it.

Let's just assume things instead of asking first, why don't we? Welfare spending covers the medical program.
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Postby Britanno » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:51 am

So you are trying to cram universal credit and universal healthcare into £48 Billion? Yeah... great plan.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:52 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Belmaria wrote:
Responsible Budget of 2013
Authors: Belmaria (LCP) New Bierstaat (LCP) Urgency: Severe SIMBEDS Category: Business and Finance Sponsors: Skeckoa (LCP) Central and Eastern Visayas (Ind)


Personal Taxation:
The following formula will be used to allocate tax rates to various income levels. The highest tax rate shall be 40%.
(Image)

Business Taxation:
The following formula illustrates the tax rates applied at various levels of business income.
t=.3-.25e^-(2.526x/1,000,000)
t = tax rate paid
x = business profit earned in the previous year

Spending allocation:
The following list outlines amounts of funding to be allocated to each area of government.
Defense - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Welfare - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Emergency Management - 15% (£47,924,393,449)
Administration - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Education - 20% (£63,899,191,266)
Labor - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Research - 5% (£15,974,797,816)
Infrastructure and Communications - 10% (£31,949,595,633)
Energy - 10% (£31,949,595,633)


Overall Figures:
Personal Income Tax Revenue: £192,596,040,203
Business Income Tax Revenue: £127,215,492,774
Tariff Revenue: £16,500,000,000
Total Revenue: £336,311,532,977

Expenditures: £319,495,956,328

Operating Surplus: £16,815,576,649

You want to spend more than India or Germany on defense? Opposed.

This is a compromise budget that was made with input from all members of the opposition. Some of them wanted higher defense spending so we had to adjust it. The fact is that this budget still has lower tax rates and less overall spending than the government proposal, and has a surplus whilst the government budget has a deficit.

Britanno wrote:So you are trying to cram universal credit and universal healthcare into £48 Billion? Yeah... great plan.

We are reducing the size of it. Is that so hard to comprehend?
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:56 am

Belmaria wrote:This is a compromise budget that was made with input from all members of the opposition. Some of them wanted higher defense spending so we had to adjust it. The fact is that this budget still has lower tax rates and less overall spending than the government proposal, and has a surplus whilst the government budget has a deficit.

Actually it doesn't. Your budget spends 319bn the government's spend 281bn. And even if that wasn't the case the, to my mind, terrible distribution of the spending (and not simply with regards to the attempt to turn Aurentina into the most militarized state in Europe) is quite off-putting. Sorry I can't back something like this.
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Postby Britanno » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:57 am

Belmaria wrote:
Britanno wrote:So you are trying to cram universal credit and universal healthcare into £48 Billion? Yeah... great plan.

We are reducing the size of it. Is that so hard to comprehend?


Government Spending on Welfare and Healthcare: £138 Billion
Opposition Spending on Welfare and Healthcare: £48 Billion

You're not just reducing it, your ripping it apart.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:01 am

Britanno wrote:Government Spending on Welfare and Healthcare: £138 Billion
Opposition Spending on Welfare and Healthcare: £48 Billion

You're not just reducing it, your ripping it apart.

Though I am a fan of neither the welfare nor healthcare spending of Aurentina I must agree. The fact that the LCP will spend the same amount of money on something called "Emergency Management" ( :blink: ) than on healthcare and welfare combined is ridiculous.
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Postby Dragomere » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:18 am

The Military Restrictions Act
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REALIZING that if military coups can occur when there are excessive military numbers and power;

CONCERNED that no legislation had resolved this issue yet;

The Senate of Aurentina, hereby RESTRICTS the maximum number of soldiers in the following way:
1. No more than 50,000 active and 500,000 total military personnel shall be in the military in a time of peace, and
2. No more than 500,000 active and 750,000 total military personnel may be in the military in a time of war.

The Senate of Aurentina, also hereby RESTRICTS that military numbers for each military branch shall not excede 1% geater or lesser than the following military percentages:
1. The Army shall have 30% of all soldiers,
2. The Navy shall have 50% of all soldiers, and
3. The Air Force shall have 20% of all soldiers.

The Senate of Aurentina, DECREES that the funding for each branch shall be in exact relation to the percentage of forces in each branch.

The Senate of Aurentina, DECREES that the funding for Defense shall never excede $20 billion.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:24 am

Dragomere wrote:
The Military Restrictions Act
Author: Dragomere | Safety and Order | Urgency: High | Sponsors:


REALIZING that if military coups can occur when there are excessive military numbers and power;

CONCERNED that no legislation had resolved this issue yet;

The Senate of Aurentina, hereby RESTRICTS the maximum number of soldiers in the following way:
1. No more than 50,000 active and 500,000 total military personnel shall be in the military in a time of peace, and
2. No more than 500,000 active and 750,000 total military personnel may be in the military in a time of war.

The Senate of Aurentina, also hereby RESTRICTS that military numbers for each military branch shall not excede 1% geater or lesser than the following military percentages:
1. The Army shall have 30% of all soldiers,
2. The Navy shall have 50% of all soldiers, and
3. The Air Force shall have 20% of all soldiers.

The Senate of Aurentina, DECREES that the funding for each branch shall be in exact relation to the percentage of forces in each branch.

The Senate of Aurentina, DECREES that the funding for Defense shall never excede $20 billion.

Something tells me it's going to backfire at some point. Capping defense funding can put serious pain on R&D--the same R&D that can be devoted to keeping our troops out of harm's way.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:24 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Britanno wrote:Government Spending on Welfare and Healthcare: £138 Billion
Opposition Spending on Welfare and Healthcare: £48 Billion

You're not just reducing it, your ripping it apart.

Though I am a fan of neither the welfare nor healthcare spending of Aurentina I must agree. The fact that the LCP will spend the same amount of money on something called "Emergency Management" ( :blink: ) than on healthcare and welfare combined is ridiculous.

Emergency management is Police, EMS, Fire Fighters, Hazmat, Prisons, and disaster management. These are important programs and need funding.

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Belmaria wrote:This is a compromise budget that was made with input from all members of the opposition. Some of them wanted higher defense spending so we had to adjust it. The fact is that this budget still has lower tax rates and less overall spending than the government proposal, and has a surplus whilst the government budget has a deficit.

Actually it doesn't. Your budget spends 319bn the government's spend 281bn. And even if that wasn't the case the, to my mind, terrible distribution of the spending (and not simply with regards to the attempt to turn Aurentina into the most militarized state in Europe) is quite off-putting. Sorry I can't back something like this.

With regards to the government proposal, is that before or after all taxes are figured in? Also, we do not mean to turn Aurentina into a militarized nation. That was an accidental miscalculation. We will shift some funding from defense over to welfare to fix it.
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