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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:28 am

Geilinor wrote:
Belmaria wrote:I'll sponsor

Added, but are you going to be okay with 3 years unpaid leave, shared? Maklohi Vai and Yanalia are supporting it, so it's going in the bill.


I will support the unpaid leave if as a compromise a clause is added that by taking unpaid the employer no longer has to keep the job open for the employee. To ask them to hang around for 3 years is ridiculous. no wonder most of the Eurozone is falling apart recently.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:33 am

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New Zepuha wrote:Well I would like to hear your recommendations for limits, you being the MoT after all.


I was thinking speed limits like our European neighbours.

Motorways: 130km/h in good conditions/110km/h in poor.
Dual Carriageways: 110km/h
Normal Country Roads: 100km/h on open stretches. Municipalities may choose appropriate speed reductions through towns and villages.
City Roads: 50-80km/h depending on location.
Roadworks: 30km/h

Vehicle Specific:
Car/SUV/Van/etc. Towing Trailer: 80km/h
Truck/Bus: 90km/h



Not bad, I would not have two different speed limits for motorways, the variability of the crossover point of what is good conditions and what is bad is too open to interpretation and will result in a lot of court cases as individuals refuse to except a fine since they will argue the conditions were fine. Just have a flat 130.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:37 am

Costa Alegria wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Well I would like to hear your recommendations for limits, you being the MoT after all.


I was thinking speed limits like our European neighbours.

Motorways: 130km/h in good conditions/110km/h in poor.
Dual Carriageways: 110km/h
Normal Country Roads: 100km/h on open stretches. Municipalities may choose appropriate speed reductions through towns and villages.
City Roads: 50-80km/h depending on location.
Roadworks: 30km/h

Vehicle Specific:
Car/SUV/Van/etc. Towing Trailer: 80km/h
Truck/Bus: 90km/h

Okay it's added.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:49 am

New Zepuha wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
I was thinking speed limits like our European neighbours.

Motorways: 130km/h in good conditions/110km/h in poor.
Dual Carriageways: 110km/h
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City Roads: 50-80km/h depending on location.
Roadworks: 30km/h

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Car/SUV/Van/etc. Towing Trailer: 80km/h
Truck/Bus: 90km/h

Okay it's added.


Did you read what I said about having two speed limits for a road?
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:50 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Okay it's added.


Did you read what I said about having two speed limits for a road?

Look one page back to the updated bill.
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Postby Polvia » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:50 am

Yanalia wrote:I would like it back at 52 weeks.

I would also like it back at 52 weeks, but that can be amended I suppose. I shall sponsor the Parental Leave Act.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:51 am

Polvia wrote:
Yanalia wrote:I would like it back at 52 weeks.

I would also like it back at 52 weeks, but that can be amended I suppose. I shall sponsor the Parental Leave Act.


I would prefer 52 weeks myself too, it is good for family life.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:53 am

New Zepuha wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Did you read what I said about having two speed limits for a road?

Look one page back to the updated bill.


Ok, cheers. Driving to fast in a massive storm for example would probably be classed as reckless endangerment if caught by a Traffic cop anyway.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:57 am

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New Zepuha wrote:Look one page back to the updated bill.


Ok, cheers. Driving to fast in a massive storm for example would probably be classed as reckless endangerment if caught by a Traffic cop anyway.

It would be, but would you like to sponsor?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:14 am

New Zepuha wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ok, cheers. Driving to fast in a massive storm for example would probably be classed as reckless endangerment if caught by a Traffic cop anyway.

It would be, but would you like to sponsor?


I will give the whole bill a quick read first.
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Postby Pravengria » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:15 am

*Walks in non-enthusiastically from a massive hangover and orders a ''Russicano''* :P

Anywho, any new bills trying to go through? Been a bit inactive for a few days due to work
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:22 am

Pravengria wrote:*Walks in non-enthusiastically from a massive hangover and orders a ''Russicano''* :P

Anywho, any new bills trying to go through? Been a bit inactive for a few days due to work

Take a look on page back, we have a traffic code up to be sponsored and such.

Oh, I had presumed you'd already read it.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:30 am

Just one problem, don't you mean the inside lane?

All large trucks such as transporters should remain in the outermost lanes.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:33 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just one problem, don't you mean the inside lane?

All large trucks such as transporters should remain in the outermost lanes.

Sorry, yes I do. I kinda wrote this at midnight.. Sorry I was referencing off of a US highway where the exit would be on the outside.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:42 am

New Zepuha wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:Just one problem, don't you mean the inside lane?


Sorry, yes I do. I kinda wrote this at midnight.. Sorry I was referencing off of a US highway where the exit would be on the outside.


Ok, then its good for me to sponsor. :)
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Postby Fulflood » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:59 am

New Zepuha wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:
Aurentine Traffic Code
Authors: New Zepuha [IND], Costa Algeria [LD] [ | Sponsors: Geilinor [LD], Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Moderate | SIMBEDS Category: Order



Repost so this doesn't get lost. I am still seeking sponsors.

I'll sponsor.
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Postby Waldmania » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:04 am

Fulflood wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Repost so this doesn't get lost. I am still seeking sponsors.

I'll sponsor.

I'll sponsor as well (Aurentine Traffic Code)
Also, I only need one more sponsor before I can submit it
Correctional Officer's Responsibility Code (CORC)
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Joshua Waldman Urgency: Moderate-High SIMBEDS Category: Order Sponsors: Ainin (TR), Belmaria (LCP), Potenco (RG)


DEFINES A "prisoner" as a person detained while under investigation, awaiting trial or being punished for a crime; and a "correctional officer" as a person who cares for, guards, or transports prisoners.

RECOGNIZING That many of the rights of prisoners is covered in the Bill of Rights of the Aurentine Constitution

ALARMED That there are still many loopholes that may allow for the mistreatment of prisoners

HEREBY Establishes the responsibilities of a correctional officer

SECTION 1: PUNISHMENT 1. A correctional officer shall not use physical, mental or sexual abuse as punishment for the misbehavior of a criminal.
1a. A prisoner is under the care of and is the responsibility of the correctional officer and any sexual intercourse or sexual acts, regardless of consent, between a correctional officer and a prisoner will be regarded as statutory rape and the correctional officer will be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
1b. In cases where the prisoner can be proven to have raped the correctional officer, the officer will be exempt from the above clause.
2. A correctional officer will not physically assault a prisoner, except in cases of self-defence where the correctional officer feels he/she is threatened.
2a. A weapon is defined as any object used to cause physical harm, excluding firearms and body parts.
2b. If a prisoner assaults a correctional officer without a weapon, a correctional officer may defend themselves but may not use a weapon or a firearm to defend themselves unless they feel their life is threatened.
2c. A correctional officer may not use closed handed strikes on a prisoner, only open-handed strikes.
2d. If a prisoner assaults a correctional officer with a weapon, the correctional officer may defend themselves with a weapon that is authorized to be used on the prisoner including, but not limited to: baton, OC spray(pepper spray), tazor. A correctional officer may not use any other object as a weapon. A correctional officer may not use a firearm in response unless the correctional officer feels like their life is threatened.
2e. If a prisoner assaults a correctional officer with a firearm, the correctional officer may defend themselves with a firearm.
2f. All correctional officers must be provided with proper training and equipment to respond to any situation that involves physical confrontation with a prisoner.
3. No correctional officer may deny a prisoner the right to the following: food, clean water, sleep, healthcare, the ability to get rid of human waste, a sanitary environment and communication with family members outside of the prison unless a waiver is given by the warden

SECTION 2: TRANSPORTATION 1. During the transportation of a prisoner, the transportation officers are considered responsible for the safety and care of the prisoners and must follow the above laws.
2. A transportation officer must, to the best of their ability, deliver the prisoner to their destination as fast as possible without breaking any laws.
3. All transportation vehicles must meet the following requirements:
- Have Access to clean air
- Have safety belts for every prisoner
- Have the necessary equipment to ensure the secure containment of the prisoner(s) during transportation
- Have no less than two officers in the vehicle at the same time while there are prisoners inside the transportation vehicle
- Be clean and sanitary for use

SECTION 3: SOLITARY CONFINEMENT 1. No prisoner shall be subjected to solitary confinement as defined below
1a. Solitary Confinement is defined as the extended isolation of a prisoner without access to adequate lighting and/or utilities.
2. Any correctional officers found subjugating any prisoner to solitary confinement will be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

SECTION 4: ADHERENCE TO CORC 1. Every prison must ensure that every correctional officer is informed of and follows the responsibilities set by CORC.
2. Failure to adhere to CORC will result in the correctional officer being immediately sacked, as well as tried for any crimes they had commited in the process.
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Postby Polvia » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:01 pm

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Drafted by: Polvia [RG]
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Article 1 – Definitions
[1] Minor: An individual which is below the age of eighteen (18) years, or is otherwise eligible for payments.
[2] Fraud: The use of, or knowingly giving, of false or misleading information to obtain a benefit for which otherwise would not be eligible at the time.
[3] Household: A house and its occupants, regarded as a unit.
[4] Resident: An individual who has been granted permission by the state to stay within the state on a long-term or permanent basis.
Article 2 – Eligibility
[1] Any resident or citizen household which has within it a resident or citizen minor(s) may register with the Ministry of the Treasury to begin receiving payments.
    [i] Payments may be claimed by the parents or legal guardians of the minor at a monthly rate, or as a lump sum quarterly, biannually or annually, as stated upon the registration of the household.
    [ii] The rate at which payments are to be able to be claimed may be altered at any time, and any changes to the ability to claim payments will come into effect upon the beginning of the next year immediately following.
[2] In the case where a household includes a dependent individual who is, or is older than, eighteen (18), but who is in a full-time education, the benefit may remain in application until that individual turns twenty (20) as long as they remain a full-time education.
[3] In the event of situations of the nature such as those in which the minor’s parents should both be deceased or the minor should be of an age where they might live without a legal guardian (for example, they are eighteen (18) and in a full-time education), the minor is to be eligible to receive the same payments until they are no longer eligible.
[4] If a new legal guardian or household should become wholly responsible for the minor, the legal guardian or household becomes eligible for payments.
[4] Only one household may receive payments for any individual minor, of which the minor must be an occupant.
[5] Any household receiving payments is required to certify at least every four (4) months that both the household receiving payments, and the minor for which the payments are for, remain residents of the state.
Article 3 – Allowance and Benefit
[1] Payments are to be managed by the Ministry of the Treasury and funded directly through the income tax.
[2] The amount of the payment to each household is to be dependent upon the number of minors within the specified household, and the rates are to adjust in accordance to the percentage increase of inflation.
    [I] Monthly Allowance Amounts
      One Child – £120
      Two Children – £240
      Three Children – £375
      Four Children – £579
      Five Children – £740
      Six Children – £900
      Seven Children – £1,061
      Eight Children – £1,222
      For households with over eight minors, an additional increase in payment sum of plus twenty six and one half percent (+26.5%) is to be applied per minor.
    [II] In the case of multiple births the sum paid for each individual minor shall be increased for those respective minors.
      [i] In the case of twins, payments of one hundred and fifty (150) percent are to be made for both minors.
      [ii] In the case of triplets, payments of two hundred (200) percent are to be made for those minors.
      [iii] Payments shall likewise increase, in the case of multiple births numbering greater than triplets, at a rate of fifty (50) percent per additional child.
Article 4 – Fraud and Punishment
[1] Should an individual be found to be guilty of fraud in obtaining payments , it is to be considered a delict.
    [I] The crime warrants up to five (5) years in prison, with a minimum sentence of six (6) months.
    [II] The person(s), if found guilty, must each individually pay three (3) to six (6) times the amount of total fraudulent payments that they have received.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:08 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Added, but are you going to be okay with 3 years unpaid leave, shared? Maklohi Vai and Yanalia are supporting it, so it's going in the bill.


I will support the unpaid leave if as a compromise a clause is added that by taking unpaid the employer no longer has to keep the job open for the employee. To ask them to hang around for 3 years is ridiculous. no wonder most of the Eurozone is falling apart recently.

The countries with 3 years are doing the best, actually. Germany and Norway have among the best economies in Europe, for example.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:14 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Added, but are you going to be okay with 3 years unpaid leave, shared? Maklohi Vai and Yanalia are supporting it, so it's going in the bill.


I will support the unpaid leave if as a compromise a clause is added that by taking unpaid the employer no longer has to keep the job open for the employee. To ask them to hang around for 3 years is ridiculous. no wonder most of the Eurozone is falling apart recently.

The same job doesn't have to be available, a similar job can be offered as well.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:17 pm

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Polvia wrote:I would also like it back at 52 weeks, but that can be amended I suppose. I shall sponsor the Parental Leave Act.


I would prefer 52 weeks myself too, it is good for family life.

Okay. Any other suggestions, or is it ready for the queue?
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Preamble
Parents must be able to take time off from work after the birth of a child to care for it and to build stronger emotional bonds. It is also important for mothers to be able to rest while pregnant. Raising a child is expensive and a paid parental leave system can help offset some of these costs and replace income during leave.

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1. "Parent" shall be defined as a birth parent, an adoptive parent (whether or not the adoption has been legally finalized or a person who is in a relationship of some permanence with a parent of the child and who plans on treating the child as his or her own.
2. "Parental leave" shall be defined as an employee benefit that provides paid or unpaid time off work to care for a child or make arrangements for the child's welfare.

Section 1-Applying for leave
1. Employees shall provide 45 days notice prior to taking parental leave.
2. Employers shall notify the Ministry of Work when employees express a desire to take parental leave.

Section 2-Duration and Payment
1. The earliest a parental leave can begin is 17 weeks before the employee's due date.
2. When an employee has a live birth more than 17 weeks before the due date, she will be able to begin her pregnancy leave on the date of the birth.
2. Parental leave shall be available to both parents, who may divide up leave as they wish. The parental leave can be taken by either of the parents or by both at the same time.
3. 52 weeks of paid parental leave shall be provided in total, paid at 100% of prior gross income, up to a limit of £20,000.
4. 3 years of unpaid leave will be provided.

Section 3-Stillbirths and Miscarriages
1. The pregnancy leave of an employee who has a miscarriage or stillbirth ends on the date that is the later of:
a. 17 weeks after the leave began
or
b. 6 weeks after the stillbirth or miscarriage.

Section 4-Right to Reinstatement
1. An employee who takes a parental leave is entitled to the same job the employee had before the leave began or a comparable job, if the employee's old job no longer exists.
2. An contracted employee whose contract has expired shall not be entitled to reinstatement.

Section 5-Right to Continue on Employee Benefits
1. Employees on pregnancy or parental leave have a right to continue to take part in certain benefit plans that their employer may offer, including pension plans, life insurance plans, accidental death plans, extended health plans, and dental plans.
2. The employer must continue to pay its share of the premiums for any of these plans that were offered before the leave, unless the employee tells the employer in writing that he or she will not continue to pay his or her own share of the premiums.
3. If employee premiums for such benefits are present, employees must continue to pay their share of the premiums in order to continue to participate in these plans.

Section 6-Budget
1. The provisions of this bill shall be funded from the Ministry of Work's budget.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:21 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
I will support the unpaid leave if as a compromise a clause is added that by taking unpaid the employer no longer has to keep the job open for the employee. To ask them to hang around for 3 years is ridiculous. no wonder most of the Eurozone is falling apart recently.

The same job doesn't have to be available, a similar job can be offered as well.


I mean job offer full stop. During the original leave fair enough but 3 years for a firm to keep a position open or to create a job out of thin air is too much.
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Postby Polvia » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:21 pm

I'll sponsor the Parental Leave Act.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:24 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Geilinor wrote:The same job doesn't have to be available, a similar job can be offered as well.


I mean job offer full stop. During the original leave fair enough but 3 years for a firm to keep a position open or to create a job out of thin air is too much.

Do you think the 3 years should be reduced?
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Parental Leave Act(PLA)
Urgency: High | Author: Geilinor [LD] | Category: Business and Finance
Co-sponsors: Britanno(LD), Ainin(TR), Seitonjin(NLP), Malgrave(USLP), Beta Test(LD), Wolfmanne(LD), Maklohi Vai(LD), Yanalia(RG), Polvia(RG)


Preamble
Parents must be able to take time off from work after the birth of a child to care for it and to build stronger emotional bonds. It is also important for mothers to be able to rest while pregnant. Raising a child is expensive and a paid parental leave system can help offset some of these costs and replace income during leave.

Definitions
1. "Parent" shall be defined as a birth parent, an adoptive parent (whether or not the adoption has been legally finalized or a person who is in a relationship of some permanence with a parent of the child and who plans on treating the child as his or her own.
2. "Parental leave" shall be defined as an employee benefit that provides paid or unpaid time off work to care for a child or make arrangements for the child's welfare.

Section 1-Applying for leave
1. Employees shall provide 45 days notice prior to taking parental leave.
2. Employers shall notify the Ministry of Work when employees express a desire to take parental leave.

Section 2-Duration and Payment
1. The earliest a parental leave can begin is 17 weeks before the employee's due date.
2. When an employee has a live birth more than 17 weeks before the due date, she will be able to begin her pregnancy leave on the date of the birth.
2. Parental leave shall be available to both parents, who may divide up leave as they wish. The parental leave can be taken by either of the parents or by both at the same time.
3. 52 weeks of paid parental leave shall be provided in total, paid at 100% of prior gross income, up to a limit of £20,000.
4. 3 years of unpaid leave will be provided.

Section 3-Stillbirths and Miscarriages
1. The pregnancy leave of an employee who has a miscarriage or stillbirth ends on the date that is the later of:
a. 17 weeks after the leave began
or
b. 6 weeks after the stillbirth or miscarriage.

Section 4-Right to Reinstatement
1. An employee who takes a parental leave is entitled to the same job the employee had before the leave began or a comparable job, if the employee's old job no longer exists.
2. An contracted employee whose contract has expired shall not be entitled to reinstatement.

Section 5-Right to Continue on Employee Benefits
1. Employees on pregnancy or parental leave have a right to continue to take part in certain benefit plans that their employer may offer, including pension plans, life insurance plans, accidental death plans, extended health plans, and dental plans.
2. The employer must continue to pay its share of the premiums for any of these plans that were offered before the leave, unless the employee tells the employer in writing that he or she will not continue to pay his or her own share of the premiums.
3. If employee premiums for such benefits are present, employees must continue to pay their share of the premiums in order to continue to participate in these plans.

Section 6-Budget
1. The provisions of this bill shall be funded from the Ministry of Work's budget.

Polvia's sponsorship added.
Member of the Free Democratic Party. Not left. Not right. Forward.
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

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