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[Free South Califas]

I don't see the conflict - they seem independent to me. One changes the categories, one allows them to be temporarily split. Mine is agnostic to what the categories are; it just splits them. I worry that one of them may be jeopardized by combining it with the other.

However, I'll sponsor yours as a show of good faith (and because there's nothing wrong with it of course).

[Byzantium Imperial]

Yes, but people are proposing we use it alongside the Sterling or the Euro and not simply base our currency on it or pin it to the US dollar, which makes more sense.

I'm afraid you fail to understand.

This temporary measure makes it possible for CMA's $15 per hour minimum wage to be interpreted in USD rather than Colombian pesos. This is so that between now and the time we amend all references of $ and the pound sign to refer to a unified currency, we aren't a sweat shop nation. Do you want sweat shop conditions, or not, is the question at stake.

Also - CMA sets the minimum wage in dollars, therefore some wages will be paid in dollars, therefore businesses will have to accept dollars or Senator Johnson's bank can charge transaction fees up and down for people to access their paychecks.

That being said, it's in the queue now, and the only thing left to decide now is whether to bring it to vote faster, or not.

The rwa passed, so your 15 minimum wage was struck down


Ah fuck forget it, nvm

[Yanalia]

I'm afraid you fail to understand.

This temporary measure makes it possible for CMA's $15 per hour minimum wage to be interpreted in USD rather than Colombian pesos. This is so that between now and the time we amend all references of $ and the pound sign to refer to a unified currency, we aren't a sweat shop nation. Do you want sweat shop conditions, or not, is the question at stake.

Also - CMA sets the minimum wage in dollars, therefore some wages will be paid in dollars, therefore businesses will have to accept dollars or Senator Johnson's bank can charge transaction fees up and down for people to access their paychecks.

That being said, it's in the queue now, and the only thing left to decide now is whether to bring it to vote faster, or not.

The rwa passed, so your 15 minimum wage was struck down

The RWA failed...

[Venaleria]

I don't see the conflict - they seem independent to me. One changes the categories, one allows them to be temporarily split. Mine is agnostic to what the categories are; it just splits them. I worry that one of them may be jeopardized by combining it with the other.

However, I'll sponsor yours as a show of good faith (and because there's nothing wrong with it of course).

Ah, I concur.

I will also sponsor yours.

[Venaleria]

Now, the big problem.

Which amendment will be the first and which will be second?

[Maklohi Vai]

Now, the big problem.

Which amendment will be the first and which will be second?

Yours is first because it more directly changes the existing text of the bill rather than adding text. Also, I would like to see a little more clarity in your bill about what goes into the Order category. To be more blunt, you need to say what ministries are covered under each of the two new categories.

Also, keep the bills separate.

[Venaleria]

Now, the big problem.

Which amendment will be the first and which will be second?

Yours is first because it more directly changes the existing text of the bill rather than adding text. Also, I would like to see a little more clarity in your bill about what goes into the Order category. To be more blunt, you need to say what ministries are covered under each of the two new categories.

Also, keep the bills separate.

I will edit it, thank you.

[Venaleria]

First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
Category: Senate Procedures | Written by: Martin Vebussy [RG] | Urgency: High
Sponsored by: Saul Califas [CP] Wulukuno Maklohi Porunalakai [LD] Gothmogs [TR]

The Senate of Aurentina,

NOTING the apparent buildup of bills in the “Safety & Order” category of the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
FURTHER NOTING the existence of the “Foreign Affairs” category in the Senate, it being that this category was never a mentioned asset in the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
OBSERVING the fact of no bills in existence in the “Foreign Affairs” category, it having no current purpose

Hereby instates the following terms:

• The aforementioned “Foreign Affairs” category shall be removed and rendered null and void.
• The also above-mentioned “Safety & Order” category shall be split into two halves, one half being of the name “Health” and the other half being of the name “Order”
-The new category "Health" shall cover the ministry of Health
-The new category "Order" shall cover the ministries of Justice and Interiors
• The newly created “Order” category shall replace the removed “Foreign Affairs” category, above
• All bills in the combined “Safety & Order” category shall be put in either one of the new “Health” and “Order” categories, according to the discretion of the President pro Tempore/President of the Senate, or by the author(s) of bills to be categorized, if wished by them

The Senate of Aurentina hereby passes the First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act

I reconsidered and decided to just name it "Health" instead of "Safety and Health" as safety can go either way.

[Maklohi Vai]

First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
Category: Senate Procedures | Written by: Martin Vebussy [RG] | Urgency: High
Sponsored by: Saul Califas [CP]

The Senate of Aurentina,

NOTING the apparent buildup of bills in the “Safety & Order” category of the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
FURTHER NOTING the existence of the “Foreign Affairs” category in the Senate, it being that this category was never a mentioned asset in the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
OBSERVING the fact of no bills in existence in the “Foreign Affairs” category, it having no current purpose

Hereby instates the following terms:

• The aforementioned “Foreign Affairs” category shall be removed and rendered null and void.
• The also above-mentioned “Safety & Order” category shall be split into two halves, one half being of the name “Health” and the other half being of the name “Order”
-The new category "Health" shall cover the ministry of Health
-The new category "Order" shall cover the ministries of Justice and Interiors
• The newly created “Order” category shall replace the removed “Foreign Affairs” category, above
• All bills in the combined “Safety & Order” category shall be put in either one of the new “Health” and “Order” categories, according to the discretion of the President pro Tempore/President of the Senate, or by the author(s) of bills to be categorized, if wished by them

The Senate of Aurentina hereby passes the First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act

I reconsidered and decided to just name it "Health" instead of "Safety and Health" as safety can go either way.

Ah, very good, thank you. I'll sponsor.

[Venaleria]

First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
Category: Senate Procedures | Written by: Martin Vebussy [RG] | Urgency: High
Sponsored by: Saul Califas [CP]

The Senate of Aurentina,

NOTING the apparent buildup of bills in the “Safety & Order” category of the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
FURTHER NOTING the existence of the “Foreign Affairs” category in the Senate, it being that this category was never a mentioned asset in the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
OBSERVING the fact of no bills in existence in the “Foreign Affairs” category, it having no current purpose

Hereby instates the following terms:

• The aforementioned “Foreign Affairs” category shall be removed and rendered null and void.
• The also above-mentioned “Safety & Order” category shall be split into two halves, one half being of the name “Health” and the other half being of the name “Order”
-The new category "Health" shall cover the ministry of Health
-The new category "Order" shall cover the ministries of Justice and Interiors
• The newly created “Order” category shall replace the removed “Foreign Affairs” category, above
• All bills in the combined “Safety & Order” category shall be put in either one of the new “Health” and “Order” categories, according to the discretion of the President pro Tempore/President of the Senate, or by the author(s) of bills to be categorized, if wished by them

The Senate of Aurentina hereby passes the First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act

I reconsidered and decided to just name it "Health" instead of "Safety and Health" as safety can go either way.

Ah, very good, thank you. I'll sponsor.

Now we're rolling! Added!

[Gothmogs]

I will sponsor both.

[Venaleria]

I will sponsor both.

Added!

[Free South Califas]

Thanks Venaleria and Gothmogs, added.

Any other opinions on whether the number of senators to split an omnibus should be 7, 10, ?

Second Amendment to SIMBEDS
Category: Senate Procedures | Urgency: Medium-High | Author: Saul Califas (C) | Co-Sponsors: Venaleria (RG), Gothmogs (TR)

The Aurentine Senate,

APPRECIATING the new efficiency and flexibility created by the SIMBEDS mandatory omnibus act and the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the Senate,

LAMENTING, however, its minor oversight in neglecting to account for the possibility of an occasional omnibus which is too large that most Senators may be reasonably expected to thoroughly read and debate all its component proposals in due time,

HEREBY DECLARES that the following items be amended to SIMBEDS:

1. The maximum number of bills in any given omnibus shall be seven (7).
   * If an omnibus should exceed this number of component bills, the first seven bills submitted to it shall remain, while extraneous bills shall be placed in a Temporary Omnibus of the same category, next on queue.
   * If this should result in an omnibus over the maximum number of bills, the process shall be repeated ad nauseam.
   * Each Temporary Omnibus shall be removed from the next queue after it is voted on, i.e. it does not become a persistent feature of the queue except when the maximum is exceeded.
2. In order to further protect the debating and voting process from distraction over unusually comprehensive or difficult bills, any number of bills in an omnibus may further be split off into a Custom Temporary Omnibus with a motion of ten (10) senators and at least the approval of the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, or Senate President pro tempore.
   * If they so desire, the officials listed above may grant categorical or preemptive approval to changes in general, a certain identifiable kind of possible changes, or to a specific change as an idea before it is entered into the chamber as a motion, if it be proved that such official(s) actually said this. OOC: Telegrams cannot be proven beyond a doubt, only forum posts.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Thanks Venaleria and Gothmogs, added.

Any other opinions on whether the number of senators to split an omnibus should be 7, 10, ?

Second Amendment to SIMBEDS
Category: Senate Procedures | Urgency: Medium-High | Author: Saul Califas (C) | Co-Sponsors: Venaleria (RG), Gothmogs (TR)

The Aurentine Senate,

APPRECIATING the new efficiency and flexibility created by the SIMBEDS mandatory omnibus act and the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the Senate,

LAMENTING, however, its minor oversight in neglecting to account for the possibility of an occasional omnibus which is too large that most Senators may be reasonably expected to thoroughly read and debate all its component proposals in due time,

HEREBY DECLARES that the following items be amended to SIMBEDS:

1. The maximum number of bills in any given omnibus shall be seven (7).
   * If an omnibus should exceed this number of component bills, the first seven bills submitted to it shall remain, while extraneous bills shall be placed in a Temporary Omnibus of the same category, next on queue.
   * If this should result in an omnibus over the maximum number of bills, the process shall be repeated ad nauseam.
   * Each Temporary Omnibus shall be removed from the next queue after it is voted on, i.e. it does not become a persistent feature of the queue except when the maximum is exceeded.
2. In order to further protect the debating and voting process from distraction over unusually comprehensive or difficult bills, any number of bills in an omnibus may further be split off into a Custom Temporary Omnibus with a motion of seven (7) senators and at least the approval of the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, or Senate President pro tempore.
   * If they so desire, the officials listed above may grant categorical or preemptive approval to changes in general, a certain identifiable kind of possible changes, or to a specific change as an idea before it is entered into the chamber as a motion, if it be proved that such official(s) actually said this. OOC: Telegrams cannot be proven beyond a doubt, only forum posts.

It should be 10

[Senate President pro Tempore]

Thanks Venaleria and Gothmogs, added.

Any other opinions on whether the number of senators to split an omnibus should be 7, 10, ?

Second Amendment to SIMBEDS
Category: Senate Procedures | Urgency: Medium-High | Author: Saul Califas (C) | Co-Sponsors: Venaleria (RG), Gothmogs (TR)

The Aurentine Senate,

APPRECIATING the new efficiency and flexibility created by the SIMBEDS mandatory omnibus act and the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the Senate,

LAMENTING, however, its minor oversight in neglecting to account for the possibility of an occasional omnibus which is too large that most Senators may be reasonably expected to thoroughly read and debate all its component proposals in due time,

HEREBY DECLARES that the following items be amended to SIMBEDS:

1. The maximum number of bills in any given omnibus shall be seven (7).
   * If an omnibus should exceed this number of component bills, the first seven bills submitted to it shall remain, while extraneous bills shall be placed in a Temporary Omnibus of the same category, next on queue.
   * If this should result in an omnibus over the maximum number of bills, the process shall be repeated ad nauseam.
   * Each Temporary Omnibus shall be removed from the next queue after it is voted on, i.e. it does not become a persistent feature of the queue except when the maximum is exceeded.
2. In order to further protect the debating and voting process from distraction over unusually comprehensive or difficult bills, any number of bills in an omnibus may further be split off into a Custom Temporary Omnibus with a motion of seven (7) senators and at least the approval of the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, or Senate President pro tempore.
   * If they so desire, the officials listed above may grant categorical or preemptive approval to changes in general, a certain identifiable kind of possible changes, or to a specific change as an idea before it is entered into the chamber as a motion, if it be proved that such official(s) actually said this. OOC: Telegrams cannot be proven beyond a doubt, only forum posts.

So does this crack the nut, or what am I missing?

I say 10, just because we have more input from other Senators that way.

- Venaleria

[Free South Califas]

Changed to 10 above: viewtopic.php?p=16026312#p16026312

[Maklohi Vai]

FSC, I will sponsor.

[Glasgia]

Time in the car and notebook created this, posting now my phone's working.Someone else can post and work out sponsorship.

Aurentine International Development Co-operative Act
Category: Work or something | Drafted by: Me | Importance: Pretty important

STATING Aurentina's status as a recently independent nation
RECOGNISING that this limits the government's capacity to provide aid for foreign nations
NOTING that both the Shadow and current Ministers of Foreign Affairs have expressed support for the concept of nation and state building
SEEKING to aid in reducing current high levels of unemployment

Section I. - The Aurentine International Development Co-operative
a) Hereby establishes the Aurentine International Development Co-operative as a co-operative state enterprise, from now on to be referred to as the AIDC
b) Grants the AIDC starting funds of one billion pounds to be appropriated from the budget of the Ministry of Work
c) Assumes both complete government ownership and worker control over the AIDC

Section II. - Democratisation
a) Hereby establishes the office of Chief Executive Officer of the AIDC as the most senior position with the AIDC, to be known as CEO from now on
b) Mandates that the CEO shall be chosen through democratic election after every two year term in office or following the resignation or death of the standing CEO
c) Grants each permanent employee of the AIDC, regardless of rank or salary, a single vote in the aforementioned elections
d) Condemns the practice of cheating elections and subjects any persons deemed to have committed an act of voter fraud, blackmail or bribery to an immediate forced resignation and a fine no worse than a hundred thousand pounds, alongside the appropriate external legal actions
e) Sets the CEO's salary as the highest annual wage in the company, but no higher than ten times the average annual wage of AIDC employees

Section III. - Aims and Goals
a) Mandates that the management of the AIDC, when considering the direction and actions of the company, must always strive for the following goals
i) To aid developing countries through providing cheap infrastructure
ii) To provide employment for both skilled Aurentines and local workers
iii) To create a sustainable source of profit for the state and Ministry of Work

[Glasgia]

Also, Maklohi Vai or FSC can proxy vote for me

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Time in the car and notebook created this, posting now my phone's working.Someone else can post and work out sponsorship.

Aurentine International Development Co-operative Act
Category: Work or something | Drafted by: Me | Importance: Pretty important

STATING Aurentina's status as a recently independent nation
RECOGNISING that this limits the government's capacity to provide aid for foreign nations
NOTING that both the Shadow and current Ministers of Foreign Affairs have expressed support for the concept of nation and state building
SEEKING to aid in reducing current high levels of unemployment

Section I. - The Aurentine International Development Co-operative
a) Hereby establishes the Aurentine International Development Co-operative as a co-operative state enterprise, from now on to be referred to as the AIDC
b) Grants the AIDC starting funds of one billion pounds to be appropriated from the budget of the Ministry of Work
c) Assumes both complete government ownership and worker control over the AIDC

Section II. - Democratisation
a) Hereby establishes the office of Chief Executive Officer of the AIDC as the most senior position with the AIDC, to be known as CEO from now on
b) Mandates that the CEO shall be chosen through democratic election after every two year term in office or following the resignation or death of the standing CEO
c) Grants each permanent employee of the AIDC, regardless of rank or salary, a single vote in the aforementioned elections
d) Condemns the practice of cheating elections and subjects any persons deemed to have committed an act of voter fraud, blackmail or bribery to an immediate forced resignation and a fine no worse than a hundred thousand pounds, alongside the appropriate external legal actions
e) Sets the CEO's salary as the highest annual wage in the company, but no higher than ten times the average annual wage of AIDC employees

Section III. - Aims and Goals
a) Mandates that the management of the AIDC, when considering the direction and actions of the company, must always strive for the following goals
i) To aid developing countries through providing cheap infrastructure
ii) To provide employment for both skilled Aurentines and local workers
iii) To create a sustainable source of profit for the state and Ministry of Work

And what's the goal of the AIDC?

[Maklohi Vai]

Also, Maklohi Vai or FSC can proxy vote for me

You have to use the PVA form and post in the chamber.

[New Bierstaat]

Co-sponsors needed. 

Ferry Transit Act
Author: New Bierstaat (LC - 171)
Co-Sponsors: Belmaria (LC), Grand Republic of Hannover (NL), Maklohi Vai (LD - 189), Venaleria (RG - 375), Beta Test (LD - 126)
The Senate of Aurentina,

REALIZING that Aurentina's non-compact shape renders many areas close together but difficult to traverse between due to bodies of water being in the way,

HAVING CALCULATED that ferry transit between some of these cities would be fairly cheap and help in the transit of people, vehicles, and goods between said cities,

SEEING the benefit of government revenue from such a transit establishment,

ENACTS the following:

1. The Aurentine Ferry Commission (AFC) is hereby established. 
2. Authority is given to the Ministry of Transportation to oversee the AFC.
3. The Ministry of Transportation will have authority to assign parts of numbered routes to ferry routes to assist with continuity of such routes when this is prudent and necessary. 
4. The AFC will determine all ferry routes, times and frequency of service, and fares. 
5. Fares must be reasonable and must cost no more than £0.30 per kilometer traveled.
6. The AFC's authority to determine fares will be subject to the Ministry of Transportation and the courts.
7. Private corporations will be allowed to operate ferry routes in Aurentine waters subject to all relevant legislation.
8. Nothing in this bill will be interpreted to allow the abolishment of the private ferry industry.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Co-sponsors needed. 

Ferry Transit Act
Author: New Bierstaat (LC - 171)
Co-Sponsors: Belmaria (LC)
The Senate of Aurentina,

REALIZING that Aurentina's non-compact shape renders many areas close together but difficult to traverse between due to bodies of water being in the way,

HAVING CALCULATED that ferry transit between some of these cities would be fairly cheap and help in the transit of people, vehicles, and goods between said cities,

SEEING the benefit of government revenue from such a transit establishment,

ENACTS the following:

1. The Aurentine Ferry Commission (AFC) is hereby established. 
2. Authority is given to the Ministry of Transportation to oversee the AFC.
3. The Ministry of Transportation will have authority to assign parts of numbered routes to ferry routes to assist with continuity of such routes when this is prudent and necessary. 
4. The AFC will determine all ferry routes, times and frequency of service, and fares. 
5. Fares must be reasonable and must cost no more than £0.30 per kilometer traveled.
6. The AFC's authority to determine fares will be subject to the Ministry of Transportation and the courts.

I will sponsor, if the bill allows for the private sector to open ferry companies as well.

[New Bierstaat]

Co-sponsors needed. 

Ferry Transit Act
Author: New Bierstaat (LC - 171)
Co-Sponsors: Belmaria (LC)
The Senate of Aurentina,

REALIZING that Aurentina's non-compact shape renders many areas close together but difficult to traverse between due to bodies of water being in the way,

HAVING CALCULATED that ferry transit between some of these cities would be fairly cheap and help in the transit of people, vehicles, and goods between said cities,

SEEING the benefit of government revenue from such a transit establishment,

ENACTS the following:

1. The Aurentine Ferry Commission (AFC) is hereby established. 
2. Authority is given to the Ministry of Transportation to oversee the AFC.
3. The Ministry of Transportation will have authority to assign parts of numbered routes to ferry routes to assist with continuity of such routes when this is prudent and necessary. 
4. The AFC will determine all ferry routes, times and frequency of service, and fares. 
5. Fares must be reasonable and must cost no more than £0.30 per kilometer traveled.
6. The AFC's authority to determine fares will be subject to the Ministry of Transportation and the courts.
7. This act shall in no way abridge the right of the private sector to operate ferry routes of its own subject to governmental regulations.

I will sponsor, if the bill allows for the private sector to open ferry companies as well.

Private ferries will be allowed, but of course they cannot be a part of numbered national highway routes.

[Maklohi Vai]

Co-sponsors needed. 

Ferry Transit Act
Author: New Bierstaat (LC - 171)
Co-Sponsors: Belmaria (LC)
The Senate of Aurentina,

REALIZING that Aurentina's non-compact shape renders many areas close together but difficult to traverse between due to bodies of water being in the way,

HAVING CALCULATED that ferry transit between some of these cities would be fairly cheap and help in the transit of people, vehicles, and goods between said cities,

SEEING the benefit of government revenue from such a transit establishment,

ENACTS the following:

1. The Aurentine Ferry Commission (AFC) is hereby established. 
2. Authority is given to the Ministry of Transportation to oversee the AFC.
3. The Ministry of Transportation will have authority to assign parts of numbered routes to ferry routes to assist with continuity of such routes when this is prudent and necessary. 
4. The AFC will determine all ferry routes, times and frequency of service, and fares. 
5. Fares must be reasonable and must cost no more than £0.30 per kilometer traveled.
6. The AFC's authority to determine fares will be subject to the Ministry of Transportation and the courts.

I will sponsor.