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[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I have a problem: Section 4, Clause 1c: I feel like a month it's ok, but what f the task to fix this problem exceeds 30 days? For example, building a ramp, among other things. Thus, I think the bill should say that 30 days be given to start the process of fixing the problem.

An issue with that is that an establishment could wait until day 29, then stall indefinitely fixing it little by little. Either I can amend it to give a timeframe of 60 days, or keep slapping on fines until they fix it for fear of becoming broke.

I would say give a week to start the process of fixing the complex, and 6 months maximum of finishing the process. The establishment will also have to show that it is fixing the problem in a good timing schedule.

[Ranbo]

An issue with that is that an establishment could wait until day 29, then stall indefinitely fixing it little by little. Either I can amend it to give a timeframe of 60 days, or keep slapping on fines until they fix it for fear of becoming broke.

I would say give a week to start the process of fixing the complex, and 6 months maximum of finishing the process. The establishment will also have to show that it is fixing the problem in a good timing schedule.

That seems reasonable.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I would say give a week to start the process of fixing the complex, and 6 months maximum of finishing the process. The establishment will also have to show that it is fixing the problem in a good timing schedule.

That seems reasonable.

In that way I would sponsor the bill

[Free South Califas]

Well dollars ARE the base currency in the world, so everybody knows how much it is worth and it makes sense to use that in our bills.
Notice how the Aurentine credit was compared to the dollar, not the sterling

Yes, but people are proposing we use it alongside the Sterling or the Euro and not simply base our currency on it or pin it to the US dollar, which makes more sense.

I'm afraid you fail to understand.

This temporary measure makes it possible for CMA's $15 per hour minimum wage to be interpreted in USD rather than Colombian pesos. This is so that between now and the time we amend all references of $ and the pound sign to refer to a unified currency, we aren't a sweat shop nation. Do you want sweat shop conditions, or not, is the question at stake.

Also - CMA sets the minimum wage in dollars, therefore some wages will be paid in dollars, therefore businesses will have to accept dollars or Senator Johnson's bank can charge transaction fees up and down for people to access their paychecks.

That being said, it's in the queue now, and the only thing left to decide now is whether to bring it to vote faster, or not.

[Ranbo]

That seems reasonable.

In that way I would sponsor the bill

What is your party affiliation?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

In that way I would sponsor the bill

What is your party affiliation?

National Liberal Party.

[Ranbo]

What is your party affiliation?

National Liberal Party.

Thanks.

Is there anyone else willing to sponsor?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

National Liberal Party.

Thanks.

Is there anyone else willing to sponsor?

Did you change that part of the bill?

[Free South Califas]

I'll sponsor the APDC.

[Seitonjin]

I'll sponsor the APDC as well.

[New Zepuha]

I'll sponsor the APDC as well.

As will I.

[The Nihilistic view]

Yes, but people are proposing we use it alongside the Sterling or the Euro and not simply base our currency on it or pin it to the US dollar, which makes more sense.

I'm afraid you fail to understand.

This temporary measure makes it possible for CMA's $15 per hour minimum wage to be interpreted in USD rather than Colombian pesos. This is so that between now and the time we amend all references of $ and the pound sign to refer to a unified currency, we aren't a sweat shop nation. Do you want sweat shop conditions, or not, is the question at stake.

Also - CMA sets the minimum wage in dollars, therefore some wages will be paid in dollars, therefore businesses will have to accept dollars or Senator Johnson's bank can charge transaction fees up and down for people to access their paychecks.

That being said, it's in the queue now, and the only thing left to decide now is whether to bring it to vote faster, or not.

As the debate was being broadcast on BBC Senate channel a voice piped up due to BBC impartiality and no advertising policy.

"Please remember that other banks are available."

[Ranbo]

Thanks.

Is there anyone else willing to sponsor?

Did you change that part of the bill?

Yes. I will post the revised version in the chamber once I finsh adding sponsors.

With the exception of FSC(who's affiliation I do know), what party do the other sponsors belong to?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Did you change that part of the bill?

Yes. I will post the revised version in the chamber once I finsh adding sponsors.

With the exception of FSC(who's affiliation I do know), what party do the other sponsors belong to?

Oh ok Thanks!

[Venaleria]

I will sponsor the APDC, Ranbo. Red-Greens.

[Ranbo]

I will sponsor the APDC, Ranbo. Red-Greens.

Thank you, Mr. PpT.

[Venaleria]

I will sponsor the APDC, Ranbo. Red-Greens.

Thank you, Mr. PpT.

Welcome!

[Costa Alegria]

I'm afraid you fail to understand.

I'm gonna stop you right there. I was talking about people who said we should use the dollar instead of the sterling because America.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Drafted as an interim solution to the conflicting currencies used in Aurentine laws and the existence of a legally defined currency (Article 4 of the Financial Act of 2013) which few seem to know of or acknowledge.

Currency Reference Interim Clarification Act
Urgency: High | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Business and Finance
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG]

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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

DISMAYED at the current confusion over currency references in Aurentine laws;

AFFIRMING the need for either an officially named Aurentine currency, as a successor to the "Credit Unit" defined by the Finance Act of 2013, or a decision on the official use of a foreign currency;

FURTHER AFFIRMING the need for mass amendments to ensure all currency references will refer to this new currency arrangement;

NONETHELESS NOTING that an interim measure is required until such time as a decision is reached;

HEREBY enacts the following;

Usage of Pounds

1. All references to "pound" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the Pound Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not another currency of a similar name.
2. Any usage of "£" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in Pounds Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Usage of Dollars
3. All references to "dollar" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the United States Dollar (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not another currency of a similar name.
4. Any usage of "$" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in United States Dollars (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Status as Legal Tender
5. The Pound Sterling and United States Dollar shall be accepted as legal payment for all debts, public and private.
   
   Applicability
6. The provisions of this Act shall apply to the interpretation of all Acts passed by the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

Will gladly sponsor.

[New Zepuha]

Drafted as an interim solution to the conflicting currencies used in Aurentine laws and the existence of a legally defined currency (Article 4 of the Financial Act of 2013) which few seem to know of or acknowledge.

Currency Reference Interim Clarification Act
Urgency: High | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Business and Finance
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG]

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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

DISMAYED at the current confusion over currency references in Aurentine laws;

AFFIRMING the need for either an officially named Aurentine currency, as a successor to the "Credit Unit" defined by the Finance Act of 2013, or a decision on the official use of a foreign currency;

FURTHER AFFIRMING the need for mass amendments to ensure all currency references will refer to this new currency arrangement;

NONETHELESS NOTING that an interim measure is required until such time as a decision is reached;

HEREBY enacts the following;

Usage of Pounds

1. All references to "pound" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the Pound Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not another currency of a similar name.
2. Any usage of "£" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in Pounds Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Usage of Dollars
3. All references to "dollar" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the United States Dollar (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not another currency of a similar name.
4. Any usage of "$" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in United States Dollars (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Status as Legal Tender
5. The Pound Sterling and United States Dollar shall be accepted as legal payment for all debts, public and private.
   
   Applicability
6. The provisions of this Act shall apply to the interpretation of all Acts passed by the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

Will gladly sponsor.

Count me in as well.

[Free South Califas]

First Amendment to SIMBEDS
Category: Senate Procedures | Urgency: Medium-High | Author: Saul Califas (C) | Co-Sponsors:

The Aurentine Senate,

APPRECIATING the new efficiency and flexibility created by the SIMBEDS mandatory omnibus act and the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the Senate,

LAMENTING, however, its minor oversight in neglecting to account for the possibility of an occasional omnibus which is too large that most Senators may be reasonably expected to thoroughly read and debate all its component proposals in due time,

HEREBY DECLARES that the following items be amended to SIMBEDS:

1. The maximum number of bills in any given omnibus shall be seven (7).
   * If an omnibus should exceed this number of component bills, the first seven bills submitted to it shall remain, while extraneous bills shall be placed in a Temporary Omnibus of the same category, next on queue.
   * If this should result in an omnibus over the maximum number of bills, the process shall be repeated ad nauseam.
   * Each Temporary Omnibus shall be removed from the next queue after it is voted on, i.e. it does not become a persistent feature of the queue except when the maximum is exceeded.
2. In order to further protect the debating and voting process from distraction over unusually comprehensive or difficult bills, any number of bills in an omnibus may further be split off into a Custom Temporary Omnibus with a motion of seven (7) senators and at least the approval of the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, or Senate President pro tempore.
   * If they so desire, the officials listed above may grant categorical or preemptive approval to changes in general, a certain identifiable kind of possible changes, or to a specific change as an idea before it is entered into the chamber as a motion, if it be proved that such official(s) actually said this. OOC: Telegrams cannot be proven beyond a doubt, only forum posts.

So does this crack the nut, or what am I missing?

[Maklohi Vai]

First Amendment to SIMBEDS
Category: Senate Procedures | Urgency: Medium-High | Author: Saul Califas (C) | Co-Sponsors:

The Aurentine Senate,

APPRECIATING the new efficiency and flexibility created by the SIMBEDS mandatory omnibus act and the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the Senate,

LAMENTING, however, its minor oversight in neglecting to account for the possibility of an occasional omnibus which is too large that most Senators may be reasonably expected to thoroughly read and debate all its component proposals in due time,

HEREBY DECLARES that the following items be amended to SIMBEDS:

1. The maximum number of bills in any given omnibus shall be seven (7).
   * If an omnibus should exceed this number of component bills, the first seven bills submitted to it shall remain, while extraneous bills shall be placed in a Temporary Omnibus of the same category, next on queue.
   * If this should result in an omnibus over the maximum number of bills, the process shall be repeated ad nauseam.
   * Each Temporary Omnibus shall be removed from the next queue after it is voted on, i.e. it does not become a persistent feature of the queue except when the maximum is exceeded.
2. In order to further protect the debating and voting process from distraction over unusually comprehensive or difficult bills, any number of bills in an omnibus may further be split off into a Custom Temporary Omnibus with a motion of seven (7) senators and at least the approval of the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, or Senate President pro tempore.
   * If they so desire, the officials listed above may grant categorical or preemptive approval to changes in general, a certain identifiable kind of possible changes, or to a specific change as an idea before it is entered into the chamber as a motion, if it be proved that such official(s) actually said this. OOC: Telegrams cannot be proven beyond a doubt, only forum posts.

So does this crack the nut, or what am I missing?

Change it to 10 senators for the splitting motion, which would remain consistent with the original bill. Also, talk to Venaleria about the bill he's drafting; they could be combined.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

This was my version:

First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
Category: Senate Procedures | Written by: Martin Vebussy [RG] | Urgency: High
Sponsored by: Saul Califas [CP]

The Senate of Aurentina,

NOTING the apparent buildup of bills in the “Safety & Order” category of the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
FURTHER NOTING the existence of the “Foreign Affairs” category in the Senate, it being that this category was never a mentioned asset in the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act
OBSERVING the fact of no bills in existence in the “Foreign Affairs” category, it having no current purpose

Hereby instates the following terms:

• The aforementioned “Foreign Affairs” category shall be removed and rendered null and void.
• The also above-mentioned “Safety & Order” category shall be split into two halves, one half being of the name “Safety & Health” and the other half being of the name “Order”
• The newly created “Order” category shall replace the removed “Foreign Affairs” category, above
• All bills in the combined “Safety & Order” category shall be put in either one of the new “Safety & Health” and “Order” categories, according to the discretion of the President pro Tempore/President of the Senate, or by the author(s) of bills to be categorized, if wished by them

The Senate of Aurentina hereby passes the First Amendment to the SIMBEDS Omnibus Procedure Act

Maklohi, you will notice my point in making the new "Order" category was to give the new "Safety & Health" category the burden of the health bills. I can add a section on maximum bills you can have in a category.

[Free South Califas]

Venaleria, I'm inclined to leave the two bills separate because they seem to have different conceptions of the problem and do different things to fix it. What do you think?

MV, I'm open to that if people want it, but I thought it should be easier to split an omnibus (usually a near-consensus procedural issue) than to extend the debate window (usually more controversial). If it stays 7, I'll check and make sure I'm not missing a line I'd have to revise in SIMBEDS as part of this bill.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

Venaleria, I'm inclined to leave the two bills separate because they seem to have different conceptions of the problem and do different things to fix it. What do you think?

MV, I'm open to that if people want it, but I thought it should be easier to split an omnibus (usually a near-consensus procedural issue) than to extend the debate window (usually more controversial). If it stays 7, I'll check and make sure I'm not missing a line I'd have to revise in SIMBEDS as part of this bill.

Hmm, I'm not sure since they both technically tackle the same issue and may be conflicting.