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[The Nihilistic view]

Is this serious?

Unfortunately yes, whilst I dislike the Euro it'd be stupid to ignore it's existence when most of our neighbours use the Euro?

As long as this is temporary then this is a good idea, although it's something we could consider in the future for commercial tourist areas?

But we have no bills that use the Euro and no history of its use. So we have no reason to accept it. Plus you know the EU they will take it as a sign we have joined them and they will try and enslave us to "the project".

[Costa Alegria]

What about euro's in addition to the dollar and pound? Seems pointless to exclude such a big currency (and the whole Eurozone) when we are located in Europe?

Erm, no. You only use the Euro if you're a member of the EU or are a territory of the member of the EU that doesn't have its own currency. As Aurentina is neither, it would be pointless and idiotic. Does Switzerland use the Euro?

[Battlion]

What about euro's in addition to the dollar and pound? Seems pointless to exclude such a big currency (and the whole Eurozone) when we are located in Europe?

Erm, no. You only use the Euro if you're a member of the EU or are a territory of the member of the EU that doesn't have its own currency. As Aurentina is neither, it would be pointless and idiotic. Does Switzerland use the Euro?

no, but Turkey does in some places

[Costa Alegria]

no, but Turkey does in some places

But not nationwide, as you're proposing.

[Battlion]

no, but Turkey does in some places

But not nationwide, as you're proposing.

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

[The Nihilistic view]

But not nationwide, as you're proposing.

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

That's what most people have and do use but some senators for an illogical reason I have yet to fathom have written bills in Dollars. Thus creating this problem in the first place.

[Costa Alegria]

But not nationwide, as you're proposing.

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

We are using the Pound Sterling. It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

[The Nihilistic view]

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

We are using the Pound Sterling. It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

[Byzantium Imperial]

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

We are using the Pound Sterling. It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

Well dollars ARE the base currency in the world, so everybody knows how much it is worth and it makes sense to use that in our bills.
Notice how the Aurentine credit was compared to the dollar, not the sterling

[Battlion]

We are using the Pound Sterling. It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

Well dollars ARE the base currency in the world, so everybody knows how much it is worth and it makes sense to use that in our bills.
Notice how the Aurentine credit was compared to the dollar, not the sterling

American dollars are the base currency?

Also, it makes more sense to have sterling than dollars...

[Free South Califas]

Credit unit. I like. (OOC: That's actually the name of FSC's currency, inspired by anarchist credit schemes between democratically-owned workplaces and community stores.)

As for the Euro...I don't see why national legislation should force anyone to accept it, but I don't see why that should be the case for dollars, as well. I'd prefer both or neither be accepted by fiat. Of course, most businesses will be happy to take both in either case; we're an island nation in the Mediterranean, I'm sure most will want that tourist cash.

[Geilinor]

But not nationwide, as you're proposing.

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

I agree.

[Geilinor]

We are using the Pound Sterling. It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

Well dollars ARE the base currency in the world, so everybody knows how much it is worth and it makes sense to use that in our bills.
Notice how the Aurentine credit was compared to the dollar, not the sterling

We were a British colony until a couple years ago. Why should we not use the pound sterling? The UK would be Aurentina's closest ally and trading partner. It makes sense to have a currency of the same or similar value.

[Divair]

Well dollars ARE the base currency in the world, so everybody knows how much it is worth and it makes sense to use that in our bills.
Notice how the Aurentine credit was compared to the dollar, not the sterling

We were a British colony until a couple years ago. Why should we not use the pound sterling? The UK would be Aurentina's closest ally and trading partner. It makes sense to have a currency of the same or similar value.

Are we going to ask the Brits for permission to print it?

[Geilinor]

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

Along with the idiot Canadians, Australians, and New Zealanders. Betraying the empire by naming their currency the dollar.

[Yanalia]

The pound does make more sense, but unfortunately some bills have been written with USD values. The bill is trying to make sure that this still works until we make legal tender laws.

[Seitonjin]

Can we switch to dinar, the one UAE uses?

Jason flees... Then comes back.

Why are we talking about currency?

[Free South Califas]

The pound does make more sense, but unfortunately some bills have been written with USD values. The bill is trying to make sure that this still works until we make legal tender laws.

That's fine, but separately, it also forces businesses to accept GBP and USD. Why dollars, and if dollars, why not euros? Surely German tourists are easier to attract to a European location than Americans?

[Oneracon]

I don't see why we need dollars tbf, we could just use the sterling until we form our own currency.

We are using the Pound Sterling. It's all the idiot Americans who use dollars instead of proper currency.

Actually there are laws passed by the Senate that specify USD values as well.

This is simply an interim measure until a proper currency is created and there is a mass amendment.

The pound does make more sense, but unfortunately some bills have been written with USD values. The bill is trying to make sure that this still works until we make legal tender laws.

That's fine, but separately, it also forces businesses to accept GBP and USD. Why dollars, and if dollars, why not euros? Surely German tourists are easier to attract to a European location than Americans?

Because there are laws specifying payments to Aurentine citizens (such as minimum wage) in USD values.

[Oneracon]

Updated sponsors.

Currency Reference Interim Clarification Act
Urgency: High | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Business and Finance
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG], Free South Califas [C], Venaleria [RG], Geilinor [LD]

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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

DISMAYED at the current confusion over currency references in Aurentine laws;

AFFIRMING the need for either an officially named Aurentine currency, as a successor to the "Credit Unit" defined by the Finance Act of 2013, or a decision on the official use of a foreign currency;

FURTHER AFFIRMING the need for mass amendments to ensure all currency references will refer to this new currency arrangement;

NONETHELESS NOTING that an interim measure is required until such time as a decision is reached;

HEREBY enacts the following;

Usage of Pounds

1. All references to "pound" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the Pound Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not another currency of a similar name.
2. Any usage of "£" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in Pounds Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Usage of Dollars
3. All references to "dollar" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the United States Dollar (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not another currency of a similar name.
4. Any usage of "$" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in United States Dollars (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Status as Legal Tender
5. The Pound Sterling and United States Dollar shall be accepted as legal payment for all debts, public and private.
   
   Applicability
6. The provisions of this Act shall apply to the interpretation of all Acts passed by the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

[Venaleria]

I will sponsor.

[Geilinor]

Updated sponsors.

Currency Reference Interim Clarification Act
Urgency: High | Author: Oneracon [RG] | Category: Business and Finance
Co-sponsors: Yanalia [RG], Free South Califas [C]

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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

DISMAYED at the current confusion over currency references in Aurentine laws;

AFFIRMING the need for either an officially named Aurentine currency, as a successor to the "Credit Unit" defined by the Finance Act of 2013, or a decision on the official use of a foreign currency;

FURTHER AFFIRMING the need for mass amendments to ensure all currency references will refer to this new currency arrangement;

NONETHELESS NOTING that an interim measure is required until such time as a decision is reached;

HEREBY enacts the following;

Usage of Pounds

1. All references to "pound" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the Pound Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not another currency of a similar name.
2. Any usage of "£" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in Pounds Sterling (ISO 4217 currency code: GBP) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Usage of Dollars
3. All references to "dollar" in relation to currency value shall be recognized as referring to the United States Dollar (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not another currency of a similar name.
4. Any usage of "$" in a currency value shall be recognized as denoting a value in United States Dollars (ISO 4217 currency code: USD) and not in another currency which uses a similar currency sign.
   
   Status as Legal Tender
5. The Pound Sterling and United States Dollar shall be accepted as legal payment for all debts, public and private.
   
   Applicability
6. The provisions of this Act shall apply to the interpretation of all Acts passed by the Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth.

I'll sponsor.

[Byzantium Imperial]

The pound does make more sense, but unfortunately some bills have been written with USD values. The bill is trying to make sure that this still works until we make legal tender laws.

That's fine, but separately, it also forces businesses to accept GBP and USD. Why dollars, and if dollars, why not euros? Surely German tourists are easier to attract to a European location than Americans?

Dollars are thr global base currency. The euro (from now on reffered to as the deutchmark) is used in the eurozone.

[Yanalia]

The pound does make more sense, but unfortunately some bills have been written with USD values. The bill is trying to make sure that this still works until we make legal tender laws.

That's fine, but separately, it also forces businesses to accept GBP and USD. Why dollars, and if dollars, why not euros? Surely German tourists are easier to attract to a European location than Americans?

The issue is that certain laws refer to USD values. Minimum wage, for example. Therefore, if workers are paid in USD, they should be able to spend it.

[Free South Califas]

Roger. I have in the interim, gained an understanding of how CRICA clarifies that wages are in USD rather than some other $ currency, and therefore businesses must accept USD so that people can save and spend their money freely. Hence my sponsorship, declared in another thread, in case anyone reading this one is confused.

(On that note, separately, we should really get to regulating bank practices, or have we done so already? I suppose archiving is a fright at the moment.)

When we submit a massive amendments bill to unify the references to money, we can add a line to it repealing CRICA and then, as long as workers have a way to safely store and use their paychecks without onerous fees (preferably without any at all, through the provision of credit unions), we can let businesses accept whatever currency they please. Right?