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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Why would AQ be primary (or even a large) supplier of hard drugs if it is legal? Surely, someone would pick it up that producing those drugs within the nation is much cheaper than importing them from middle east, thus ensuring they can get higher revenue.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:53 pm

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The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:I am talking about heroin and cocaine. If you don't think those drugs should be illegal, then I am not going to even try to debate with you. That's more of standards.

So, how's the view from that horse, senator?


Senator, please be more respectful next time.

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Byzantium Imperial wrote:Unbelievable, you openly admit that you are fine with funding Al Queda? Have you ever heard of the NSA

Yanalia's saying a heroin ban is letting AQ profit more...


Ok, so let's just make them legal, so they don't profit as much. And then, let's just take care of the people who are going to be addicted by this drug. Seems cool. Let's just be like "Yea, well, let's legalize them and hope for the best. At least terrorists won't profit as much as before."
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Postby Yanalia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Why would AQ be primary (or even a large) supplier of hard drugs if it is legal? Surely, someone would pick it up that producing those drugs within the nation is much cheaper than importing them from middle east, thus ensuring they can get higher revenue.


This, also.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Why would AQ be primary (or even a large) supplier of hard drugs if it is legal? Surely, someone would pick it up that producing those drugs within the nation is much cheaper than importing them from middle east, thus ensuring they can get higher revenue.

There is a limited amount of places that can produce raw opium on this earth. In any case, I am not supporting a policy which encourages new buisnesses to prop up with the sole intent of exploiting peoples addictions. All producers of Heroin are immoral anyway, regardless of legality
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:57 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Why would AQ be primary (or even a large) supplier of hard drugs if it is legal? Surely, someone would pick it up that producing those drugs within the nation is much cheaper than importing them from middle east, thus ensuring they can get higher revenue.


"Well" said Boris slightly sheepishly. "I have recently been diversifying my operations."
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Postby The Red Star Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:00 pm

Hello! Says Jack Davis, appearing out of the blue.
"I'm running for the Senate as a communist. Any other Commes here? Anyway, I'd like a Latte"
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:02 pm

The Red Star Empire wrote:Hello! Says Jack Davis, appearing out of the blue.
"I'm running for the Senate as a communist. Any other Commes here? Anyway, I'd like a Latte"


I believe there is a Communist Party, you can go and check it. You will most likely find someone who has similar beliefs to yours.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:04 pm

The Red Star Empire wrote:Hello! Says Jack Davis, appearing out of the blue.
"I'm running for the Senate as a communist. Any other Commes here? Anyway, I'd like a Latte"

"The USLP and the CP caters to those tastes. I personally and more of a fan of USLP as they have a better sense of humor."
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The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
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Postby The Red Star Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:06 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
The Red Star Empire wrote:Hello! Says Jack Davis, appearing out of the blue.
"I'm running for the Senate as a communist. Any other Commes here? Anyway, I'd like a Latte"

"The USLP and the CP caters to those tastes. I personally and more of a fan of USLP as they have a better sense of humor."

Well, I just got news I was accepted. I joined the CP.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:06 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Ainin wrote:So, how's the view from that horse, senator?


Senator, please be more respectful next time.

I think you should listen to your own advice.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:06 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Why would AQ be primary (or even a large) supplier of hard drugs if it is legal? Surely, someone would pick it up that producing those drugs within the nation is much cheaper than importing them from middle east, thus ensuring they can get higher revenue.

There is a limited amount of places that can produce raw opium on this earth.

Seeing the market for those drugs, I am quite sure someone will invest to ensure it can be produced locally.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:In any case, I am not supporting a policy which encourages new buisnesses to prop up with the sole intent of exploiting peoples addictions. All producers of Heroin are immoral anyway, regardless of legality

And why should we decide legality based on your morality, fucking the free will of individuals?
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Postby Ainin » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:08 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Why would AQ be primary (or even a large) supplier of hard drugs if it is legal? Surely, someone would pick it up that producing those drugs within the nation is much cheaper than importing them from middle east, thus ensuring they can get higher revenue.

There is a limited amount of places that can produce raw opium on this earth. In any case, I am not supporting a policy which encourages new buisnesses to prop up with the sole intent of exploiting peoples addictions. All producers of Heroin are immoral anyway, regardless of legality

Morality is, wait for it,


Hang on...


Almost there....


Subjective!
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:08 pm

Ainin wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Senator, please be more respectful next time.

I think you should listen to your own advice.


In what way, sir? I am pretty sure I have never insulted you. I don't go around throwing little comments that imply something. And, if I ever did, I give you my most sincere apologies, since it was not my intention to do so.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:09 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:There is a limited amount of places that can produce raw opium on this earth.

Seeing the market for those drugs, I am quite sure someone will invest to ensure it can be produced locally.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:In any case, I am not supporting a policy which encourages new buisnesses to prop up with the sole intent of exploiting peoples addictions. All producers of Heroin are immoral anyway, regardless of legality

And why should we decide legality based on your morality, fucking the free will of individuals?


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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:10 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:There is a limited amount of places that can produce raw opium on this earth.

Seeing the market for those drugs, I am quite sure someone will invest to ensure it can be produced locally.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:In any case, I am not supporting a policy which encourages new buisnesses to prop up with the sole intent of exploiting peoples addictions. All producers of Heroin are immoral anyway, regardless of legality

And why should we decide legality based on your morality, fucking the free will of individuals?

If you dont think the entire idea behind producing hard drugs is immoral then either A. You dont get the poitn of breaking bad or B. No morals.

And in any case, the free will of the individuals in this case can go fuck themselves because: I the taxpayer am paying for their healthcare, I the government member am looking out for whats good for them, and I the westerner dont like Al Queda.
Its a very small minority who are addicted to heroin. They dont have to be addicted to that, there is marijuana and rehab, and I dont see a single good reason to allow it in the first place.



Getting High is not a human right.
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:11 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Seeing the market for those drugs, I am quite sure someone will invest to ensure it can be produced locally.


And why should we decide legality based on your morality, fucking the free will of individuals?


"Please senator, quieten down. I don't want anyone else getting ideas"

If no one else gets that idea, I will need to talk to minister of education and ask what do students do in business and economics class...
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:11 pm

Ainin wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:There is a limited amount of places that can produce raw opium on this earth. In any case, I am not supporting a policy which encourages new buisnesses to prop up with the sole intent of exploiting peoples addictions. All producers of Heroin are immoral anyway, regardless of legality

Morality is, wait for it,


Hang on...


Almost there....


Subjective!

Granted. I could shoot you right now for never having a point, and whether or not that is immoral is technicalyl subjective. Of coarse, no one will agree with me on that one and i will go to jail because some things are universally recognized as bad.

Now kindly get back on topic or stop posting
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New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby Yanalia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:11 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Seeing the market for those drugs, I am quite sure someone will invest to ensure it can be produced locally.


And why should we decide legality based on your morality, fucking the free will of individuals?

If you dont think the entire idea behind producing hard drugs is immoral then either A. You dont get the poitn of breaking bad or B. No morals.

And in any case, the free will of the individuals in this case can go fuck themselves because: I the taxpayer am paying for their healthcare, I the government member am looking out for whats good for them, and I the westerner dont like Al Queda.
Its a very small minority who are addicted to heroin. They dont have to be addicted to that, there is marijuana and rehab, and I dont see a single good reason to allow it in the first place.



Getting High is not a human right.


Bodily sovereignty, however, is.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:13 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
"Please senator, quieten down. I don't want anyone else getting ideas"

If no one else gets that idea, I will need to talk to minister of education and ask what do students do in business and economics class...


:lol2: True.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:13 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:If you dont think the entire idea behind producing hard drugs is immoral then either A. You dont get the poitn of breaking bad or B. No morals.

And in any case, the free will of the individuals in this case can go fuck themselves because: I the taxpayer am paying for their healthcare, I the government member am looking out for whats good for them, and I the westerner dont like Al Queda.
Its a very small minority who are addicted to heroin. They dont have to be addicted to that, there is marijuana and rehab, and I dont see a single good reason to allow it in the first place.



Getting High is not a human right.


Bodily sovereignty, however, is.

Not when it harms others
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:If you dont think the entire idea behind producing hard drugs is immoral then either A. You dont get the poitn of breaking bad or B. No morals.

And in any case, the free will of the individuals in this case can go fuck themselves because: I the taxpayer am paying for their healthcare, I the government member am looking out for whats good for them, and I the westerner dont like Al Queda.
Its a very small minority who are addicted to heroin. They dont have to be addicted to that, there is marijuana and rehab, and I dont see a single good reason to allow it in the first place.



Getting High is not a human right.



Bodily sovereignty, however, is.


It's like religion. If their preaching methods puts in danger the lives of some other people, then it cannot be permitted.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:14 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Bodily sovereignty, however, is.

Not when it harms others


I completely agree.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:15 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:If you dont think the entire idea behind producing hard drugs is immoral then either A. You dont get the poitn of breaking bad or B. No morals.

Or, that I get morals are irrelevant to legality.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:And in any case, the free will of the individuals in this case can go fuck themselves because: I the taxpayer am paying for their healthcare,

Then require them to take rehab or withdraw healthcare.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:I the government member am looking out for whats good for them,

Oh, would you also like to tell them when to go to bed, when to eat, when to sleep? Because obviously, you know best for everyone and everyone should defer to your wise judgement.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:and I the westerner dont like Al Queda.

Which is absolutely irrelevant.

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Its a very small minority who are addicted to heroin. They dont have to be addicted to that, there is marijuana and rehab, and I dont see a single good reason to allow it in the first place.

I dont see single good reason to allow fatty food. Or not sleeping 8 hours. Or not getting appropriate exercise. Would you like to control those as well?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:16 pm

if anyone needs me, im going to excersie my right to bodily sovereignty right now. I assuming the cow that iwll die is irrelevant...
New Pyrrhius wrote:Byzantium, eat a Snickers. You become an imperialistic psychopathic dictatorship when you're hungry.

The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
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Postby Yanalia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:if anyone needs me, im going to excersie my right to bodily sovereignty right now. I assuming the cow that iwll die is irrelevant...


That's not your body last time I checked.
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