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[Byzantium Imperial]

And what happens if the user decides not to go along with this avuncular plan of yours, be they actually addicted or just caught in a compromising position on a hard night of partying?

Simple, the choice is rehab or prison.

Nah not prison. Thats just a waste of money on our part.

[The Nihilistic view]

Simple, the choice is rehab or prison.

Nah not prison. Thats just a waste of money on our part.

Stand them up against a wall instead? That only costs a couple of dollars.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Nah not prison. Thats just a waste of money on our part.

Stand them up against a wall instead? That only costs a couple of dollars.

But then that ruins the whole entire point of helping them.....

and mind you, firing squads are payed by the hour. So its more then a few dollars

[The Nihilistic view]

Stand them up against a wall instead? That only costs a couple of dollars.

But then that ruins the whole entire point of helping them.....

and mind you, firing squads are payed by the hour. So its more then a few dollars

Minimum wage plus a bullet. $16 dollars. Then I am sure we can manage more than one an hour. I mean how long does it take to pull a trigger. Say we do about one every 2 minutes, that works out around 50 cents per case.

[Byzantium Imperial]

But then that ruins the whole entire point of helping them.....

and mind you, firing squads are payed by the hour. So its more then a few dollars

Minimum wage plus a bullet. $16 dollars. Then I am sure we can manage more than one an hour. I mean how long does it take to pull a trigger. Say we do about one every 2 minutes, that works out around 50 cents per case.

Well you have to bring up the accused, aim the spotlight (electricity bill), you have to get all the soldiers in line, while they are getting payed, wait for the order to be given. Then the body has to be cleaned up, at least partially to remove the guts, and dragged away from the wall (as the soldiers wont be doing this, hourly payed janitor). Then there is last words, and all the dramatic stuff that an official firing squad brings with it. Thereby extending the times of the executions
Overall, your looking at an astounding $20 dollars per execution. I could get a large dinner for that!

[Yanalia]

But then that ruins the whole entire point of helping them.....

and mind you, firing squads are payed by the hour. So its more then a few dollars

Minimum wage plus a bullet. $16 dollars. Then I am sure we can manage more than one an hour. I mean how long does it take to pull a trigger. Say we do about one every 2 minutes, that works out around 50 cents per case.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

[Great Nepal]

Minimum wage plus a bullet. $16 dollars. Then I am sure we can manage more than one an hour. I mean how long does it take to pull a trigger. Say we do about one every 2 minutes, that works out around 50 cents per case.

Well you have to bring up the accused, aim the spotlight (electricity bill), you have to get all the soldiers in line, while they are getting payed, wait for the order to be given. Then the body has to be cleaned up, at least partially to remove the guts, and dragged away from the wall (as the soldiers wont be doing this, hourly payed janitor). Then there is last words, and all the dramatic stuff that an official firing squad brings with it. Thereby extending the times of the executions
Overall, your looking at an astounding $20 dollars per execution. I could get a large dinner for that!

It wont be too hard to make it self funding, and even profitable... I think main problem is the cost of appeals.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Minimum wage plus a bullet. $16 dollars. Then I am sure we can manage more than one an hour. I mean how long does it take to pull a trigger. Say we do about one every 2 minutes, that works out around 50 cents per case.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

The execution itself is dirt cheap

Its the appeals process and proceedings which take awhile. Which by the way happen in ALL trials that arnt settled by plea bargain.

[The Nihilistic view]

Minimum wage plus a bullet. $16 dollars. Then I am sure we can manage more than one an hour. I mean how long does it take to pull a trigger. Say we do about one every 2 minutes, that works out around 50 cents per case.

Well you have to bring up the accused, aim the spotlight (electricity bill), you have to get all the soldiers in line, while they are getting payed, wait for the order to be given. Then the body has to be cleaned up, at least partially to remove the guts, and dragged away from the wall (as the soldiers wont be doing this, hourly payed janitor). Then there is last words, and all the dramatic stuff that an official firing squad brings with it. Thereby extending the times of the executions
Overall, your looking at an astounding $20 dollars per execution. I could get a large dinner for that!

I was not planning on it be so grand.

No lights, takes place in the day.
The accused did a pit.
They are then lined up on the edge of the pit.
One soldier per accused not a whole team for one man. Also if we us soldiers as you suggest they are cheap as they are already getting paid by the MOD.
They will then fall into the pit and the next lot can be brought forward for the same treatment.

[The Nihilistic view]

Yes, I concur with those above. It is the appeals processes that makes it expencive.

[Ainin]

Sadly yes, heroin too. Dispite my best efforts (im rewritting a bill to just target hard drugs at the moment)

Wtf? (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.

Prohibition doesn't work.

Socioeconomics 101.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Well you have to bring up the accused, aim the spotlight (electricity bill), you have to get all the soldiers in line, while they are getting payed, wait for the order to be given. Then the body has to be cleaned up, at least partially to remove the guts, and dragged away from the wall (as the soldiers wont be doing this, hourly payed janitor). Then there is last words, and all the dramatic stuff that an official firing squad brings with it. Thereby extending the times of the executions
Overall, your looking at an astounding $20 dollars per execution. I could get a large dinner for that!

I was not planning on it be so grand.

No lights, takes place in the day.
The accused did a pit.
They are then lined up on the edge of the pit.
One soldier per accused not a whole team for one man.
They will then fall into the pit and the next lot can be brought forward for the same treatment.

If its not a squad, then you have to take multiple shots. Rifle bullets aint cheap!
By the way, we are on an Island. We dont have that much space to dig ditches with


If we are going unconventional, then at least the soldier should be equiped with this:




its not cheap, but all the more comical in a dark way. Not to mention no cleanup costs or aim needed. In fact, we dont need soldiers for that. Just pick up a prison guard. And you get way more executions done with that one shot then youl ever get with a bullet

[The Nihilistic view]

I was not planning on it be so grand.

No lights, takes place in the day.
The accused did a pit.
They are then lined up on the edge of the pit.
One soldier per accused not a whole team for one man.
They will then fall into the pit and the next lot can be brought forward for the same treatment.

If its not a squad, then you have to take multiple shots. Rifle bullets aint cheap!
By the way, we are on an Island. We dont have that much space to dig ditches with

I think one shot to the brain cavity is sufficient. Any that don't die immediately can just bleed out in the pit.


Hahaha, RPG!

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Wtf? (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.

Prohibition doesn't work.

Socioeconomics 101.

I am talking about heroin and cocaine. If you don't think those drugs should be illegal, then I am not going to even try to debate with you. That's more of standards.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Wtf? (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.

Prohibition doesn't work.

Socioeconomics 101.

Heroin would still be produced by terrorists anyway.

Heroin Production 101

[Yanalia]

Prohibition doesn't work.

Socioeconomics 101.

Heroin would still be produced by terrorists anyway.

Heroin Production 101

Keeping the market illegal makes it much more lucrative for criminals.

[Ainin]

I am talking about heroin and cocaine. If you don't think those drugs should be illegal, then I am not going to even try to debate with you. That's more of standards.

So, how's the view from that horse, senator?

[The Nihilistic view]

Wtf? (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.

Prohibition doesn't work.

Socioeconomics 101.

Silly irrelevant comments are silly irrelevent comments.

Silly irrelevant comments recognition 101

[Byzantium Imperial]

Heroin would still be produced by terrorists anyway.

Heroin Production 101

Keeping the market illegal makes it much more lucrative for criminals.

Congrats, Al queda is still proffiting a small bit off of us.

You dont see ANYTHING wrong with that?

[Yanalia]

Keeping the market illegal makes it much more lucrative for criminals.

Congrats, Al queda is still proffiting a small bit off of us.

You dont see ANYTHING wrong with that?

Solution: let them profit more.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Congrats, Al queda is still proffiting a small bit off of us.

You dont see ANYTHING wrong with that?

Solution: let them profit more.

Unbelievable, you openly admit that you are fine with funding Al Queda? Have you ever heard of the NSA

[Ainin]

Solution: let them profit more.

Unbelievable, you openly admit that you are fine with funding Al Queda? Have you ever heard of the NSA

Yanalia's saying a heroin ban is letting AQ profit more...

[Yanalia]

Solution: let them profit more.

Unbelievable, you openly admit that you are fine with funding Al Queda? Have you ever heard of the NSA

I was saying that was what your "solution" would do. Now,

1. The government is not purchasing any drugs from Al Qaeda
2. Legalizing something for purchase != buying from/endorsing its manufacturers
3. Are you saying we should ban all products whose manufacturers we think are evil? Because then there's a huge list of things you might want to ban...

[Byzantium Imperial]

Unbelievable, you openly admit that you are fine with funding Al Queda? Have you ever heard of the NSA

Yanalia's saying a heroin ban is letting AQ profit more...

Not really, as banning imports and enforcing it would cut off AQ supplies. For instance, while drugs continue to flow unabated acrosss the US border, there used to be a booming drug trade in miami. The Coast Guard however effectively eliminated the entirety of the Sea based flow of drugs into the US with their interdiction.

We are an island nation, interdiction is the perfect solution for that. We CAN stop all heroin imports if we wish

[Byzantium Imperial]

Unbelievable, you openly admit that you are fine with funding Al Queda? Have you ever heard of the NSA

I was saying that was what your "solution" would do. Now,

1. The government is not purchasing any drugs from Al Qaeda
2. Legalizing something for purchase != buying from/endorsing its manufacturers
3. Are you saying we should ban all products whose manufacturers we think are evil? Because then there's a huge list of things you might want to ban...

1. Your allwing private citizens to. Just as bad.
2. When that manufactorer is the sole manufactorer of said substance and derives much of their funding from it, you are propping them up.
3. Ever heard of blood diamonds? Now assume that all diamonds in the world are Blood diamonds. Now you are at the heroin level