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Postby Ainin » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:19 pm

Revised and corrected some continuity mistakes.

Ainin wrote:Just in case...

Responsible Taxation Act
Author: Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Utmost | Sponsors: New Zepuha [PC], Free South Califas [CP], Malgrave [USLP]

The Senate of Aurentina,

Decrying the punitive regressive tax rates set in the Revenue and Spending Plan of 2013,

Striking out and rendering null and void all Value Added Taxes (VATs) from the aforementioned law,

Implementing the following tax rates effective immediately,

The Services and Goods Sales Tax (SGST)

Essential Goods and Services, defined as basic groceries, prescription drugs, tuition fees, public transportation fares, housing (both purchases and rent) and medical devices and services shall not be taxed.
Basic Grocery is defined as fresh, frozen, canned and vacuum sealed fruits and vegetables, breakfast cereals, most milk products, fresh meat, poultry, grain products and fish, with further clarity to be affirmed by the Ministry of Commerce.
Prescription drug is defined as a drug prescribed by a licensed physician acting in official capabilities.
Tuition fee is defined as the cost of attending a pre-elementary, elementary, secondary, tertiary or other licensed educational facility.
Public transportation fare is defined as the charged price for using a bus, train, metro, tramway, LRT or minibus owned by a public transportation commission approved by the Transportation Ministry.
Medical service and device is defined as a healthcare-related expenditure or good, to be further defined by the Ministry of Health.

Secondary Goods and Services, defined as foodstuffs not included in "basic groceries" or "restricted products", street clothing, all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving, electronics, entertainment devices, media and all other consumer-oriented products not covered by other categories, are taxed at 5% of selling price.
Gas and oil is defined as products obtainable at a standard gas station (petrol, diesel, etc.), natural gas, heating oil and cooking oil.
Street clothing is defined as clothing destined for everyday life.
Electronics are defined as electronic equipment intended for everyday use, most often in entertainment, communications and office productivity, and accessories thereof.
Entertainment devices are defined as machines used for consumer entertainment, and accessories thereof, to be further defined by the Ministry of Telecommunications.
Media is defined as services relating to the consumer entertainment industry, along with all forms of distribution of moving pictures, images, televised series, video, and the storage devices thereof.


Luxury Goods and Services, defined as items not needed for everyday life, such as designer clothing, jewellery, motor vehicles, hotel fees, residential property above the value of £2,000,000 and other products and services deemed so by the Ministry of the Exchequer are to be taxed at 12.5% of selling price.

Restricted Products, defined as products restricted by drug and firearms control legislation, and accessories thereof, are to be taxed 15% of selling price.

Tobacco (and products derived thereof) are exempt from the SGST.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:22 pm

Ainin wrote:Revised and corrected some continuity mistakes.

Ainin wrote:Just in case...

Responsible Taxation Act
Author: Ainin [TR] | Urgency: Utmost | Sponsors: New Zepuha [PC], Free South Califas [CP], Malgrave [USLP]

The Senate of Aurentina,

Decrying the punitive regressive tax rates set in the Revenue and Spending Plan of 2013,

Striking out and rendering null and void all Value Added Taxes (VATs) from the aforementioned law,

Implementing the following tax rates effective immediately,

The Services and Goods Sales Tax (SGST)

Essential Goods and Services, defined as basic groceries, prescription drugs, tuition fees, public transportation fares, housing (both purchases and rent) and medical devices and services shall not be taxed.
Basic Grocery is defined as fresh, frozen, canned and vacuum sealed fruits and vegetables, breakfast cereals, most milk products, fresh meat, poultry, grain products and fish, with further clarity to be affirmed by the Ministry of Commerce.
Prescription drug is defined as a drug prescribed by a licensed physician acting in official capabilities.
Tuition fee is defined as the cost of attending a pre-elementary, elementary, secondary, tertiary or other licensed educational facility.
Public transportation fare is defined as the charged price for using a bus, train, metro, tramway, LRT or minibus owned by a public transportation commission approved by the Transportation Ministry.
Medical service and device is defined as a healthcare-related expenditure or good, to be further defined by the Ministry of Health.

Secondary Goods and Services, defined as foodstuffs not included in "basic groceries" or "restricted products", street clothing, all consumer-targeted forms of gas and oil for commercial and fleet driving, electronics, entertainment devices, media and all other consumer-oriented products not covered by other categories, are taxed at 5% of selling price.
Gas and oil is defined as products obtainable at a standard gas station (petrol, diesel, etc.), natural gas, heating oil and cooking oil.
Street clothing is defined as clothing destined for everyday life.
Electronics are defined as electronic equipment intended for everyday use, most often in entertainment, communications and office productivity, and accessories thereof.
Entertainment devices are defined as machines used for consumer entertainment, and accessories thereof, to be further defined by the Ministry of Telecommunications.
Media is defined as services relating to the consumer entertainment industry, along with all forms of distribution of moving pictures, images, televised series, video, and the storage devices thereof.


Luxury Goods and Services, defined as items not needed for everyday life, such as designer clothing, jewellery, motor vehicles, hotel fees, residential property above the value of £2,000,000 and other products and services deemed so by the Ministry of the Exchequer are to be taxed at 12.5% of selling price.

Restricted Products, defined as products restricted by drug and firearms control legislation, and accessories thereof, are to be taxed 15% of selling price.

Tobacco (and products derived thereof) are exempt from the SGST.

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Postby Yanalia » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:23 pm

But Ainin...I sponsored. How could you forget me? :(
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Postby Venaleria » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:00 pm

I will sponsor the taxation bill as well, Ainin.
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Postby Belmaria » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:57 pm

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:37 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ainin wrote:Revised and corrected some continuity mistakes.


I will sponsor this bill.

I'll sponsor it too.
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Postby Seitonjin » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:59 am

May I sponsor the Taxation bill as well?
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Postby Osea 767 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:47 am

I would also like to sponsor the taxation bill.
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Postby Belmaria » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:33 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ainin wrote:Revised and corrected some continuity mistakes.


I will sponsor this bill.

I'm against any consumption taxes, as they take a disproportionate percentage of income from the poor. A flat income tax is the way to go.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:40 pm

Now that i think of it, what if we want to implement much higher recreational drug taxes later on? How would that effect this bill?
Amendments of coarse. nvm
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:42 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Now that i think of it, what if we want to implement much higher recreational drug taxes later on? How would that effect this bill?
Amendments of coarse. nvm


Is cocaine legal in this country?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:43 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Now that i think of it, what if we want to implement much higher recreational drug taxes later on? How would that effect this bill?
Amendments of coarse. nvm


Is cocaine legal in this country?

Sadly yes, heroin too. Dispite my best efforts (im rewritting a bill to just target hard drugs at the moment)
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:46 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Is cocaine legal in this country?

Sadly yes, heroin too. Dispite my best efforts (im rewritting a bill to just target hard drugs at the moment)


Wtf? >:( (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.
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Postby Yanalia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:47 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Sadly yes, heroin too. Dispite my best efforts (im rewritting a bill to just target hard drugs at the moment)


Wtf? >:( (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.


Yes, because we should exploit people's sicknesses for as much money as possible.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:49 pm

Yanalia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Wtf? >:( (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.


Yes, because we should exploit people's sicknesses for as much money as possible.


Then let's declare the drug illegal? And it's an addiction, addiction that could have been avoided if the prices were extremely high (in order to deter any curiosity) or declare it illegal
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:49 pm

Yanalia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Wtf? >:( (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.


Yes, because we should exploit people's sicknesses for as much money as possible.


I shall have to tell the royal society that scrounging and laziness is a sickness that needs to be put in the medical journal.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Yanalia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Wtf? >:( (Sorry for the word). Really? And that is the tax we are giving it? It should have like a 500% tax rate. And those drugs should be illegal if we really want a functional society.


Yes, because we should exploit people's sicknesses for as much money as possible.

Nobody is denying them Rehab treatments by the way. If they dont want help, then yes lets exploit their poor judgement.
But id much rather ban it then fund terrorists and cartelss, while simultaneously harming our people, anyway. Works out better for everyone if the hard shit is kept out
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Postby Yanalia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:51 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Yes, because we should exploit people's sicknesses for as much money as possible.


Then let's declare the drug illegal? And it's an addiction, addiction that could have been avoided if the prices were extremely high (in order to deter any curiosity) or declare it illegal


Yes, drug illegalisation definitely prevents people from getting addicted.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:53 pm

Yanalia wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Then let's declare the drug illegal? And it's an addiction, addiction that could have been avoided if the prices were extremely high (in order to deter any curiosity) or declare it illegal


Yes, drug illegalisation definitely prevents people from getting addicted.


It won't stop it, but at least it will give the police the power to deter this illegal business.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:55 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Yes, drug illegalisation definitely prevents people from getting addicted.


It won't stop it, but at least it will give the police the power to deter this illegal business.


And if cocaine is legal, then why don't we take all legislation against arms? I mean, it's kind of contradictory that we are deterring one, but not the other.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:57 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Yes, because we should exploit people's sicknesses for as much money as possible.


I shall have to tell the royal society that scrounging and laziness is a sickness that needs to be put in the medical journal.

Nobody is talking about scrounging and laziness. How is addiction not a sickness?
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:57 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
It won't stop it, but at least it will give the police the power to deter this illegal business.


And if cocaine is legal, then why don't we take all legislation against arms? I mean, it's kind of contradictory that we are deterring one, but not the other.

We haven't passed drug legislation banning cocaine yet. We should ban it though.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:59 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
And if cocaine is legal, then why don't we take all legislation against arms? I mean, it's kind of contradictory that we are deterring one, but not the other.

We haven't passed drug legislation banning cocaine yet. We should ban it though.


:clap: Thank you. That's much better. We could have avoided all this argument since the beginning.
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Postby Ranbo » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
And if cocaine is legal, then why don't we take all legislation against arms? I mean, it's kind of contradictory that we are deterring one, but not the other.

We haven't passed drug legislation banning cocaine yet. We should ban it though.

Perhaps there should just be one bill, packaging up multiple 'offending drugs', instead of having one pass, then the complaint about another drug, than another bill pass, than another complaint...

That would save some work.
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Postby Belmaria » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:00 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
And if cocaine is legal, then why don't we take all legislation against arms? I mean, it's kind of contradictory that we are deterring one, but not the other.

We haven't passed drug legislation banning cocaine yet. We should ban it though.

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