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[Macedonian Grand Empire]

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.
Take this out. As Executive decrees are done by the president not by you. Second the president can not correct the part of the ministry of culture although he can easily dissolve the customs ministry. So until this act passes you will have to keep Culture.

[United Great Britian]

Limitation of Bureaucracy Act
Category: Miscellaneous | Urgency: Low | Author: Prime Minister Robert Glasgia [MSP] | Sponsors: Great Nepal [NCP]

RECOGNISING: That the Ministry of Culture and Sports, alongside the Ministry of Customs, represents an unnecessary bureaucracy which could be far more efficiently handled by other departments within the government.

THEREFORE: Passes the Limitation of Bureaucracy Act to eliminate aforementioned unnecessary bureaucracy and create a more efficient government.


Article I.
Abolition of the Ministry of Culture and Sports
I. Hereby dissolves the Ministry of Culture and Sports, striking the following line - "The Ministry of Culture and Sports, with the task of protecting the cultural heritage of the country, promoting cultural and sportive activities and expression, manage cultural and sports agencies and organizations." - from the Ministry Foundation Act and declaring that line to be null and void.
II. Transfers all powers and personnel of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports, that were involved in education related tasks, to the Ministry of Education and allows the leadership of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports to allocate the appropriate funds for such a change
III. Therefore transcends all other powers and personnel of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports to local governments, to be divided as the leadership of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports seems fit
IV. Recommends all employees displaced by such transfers for preference upon application for vacant positions in government, if they apply within their speciality

Article II.
Abolition of the Ministry of Customs
I. Hereby dissolves the Ministry of Customs, declaring the executive order that established it to be null and void.
II. Establishes the Department of Customs and Immigration, under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of the Interior
III. Transfers all powers, personnel and finances of the former Ministry of Customs to the Department of Customs and Immigration

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.

I'll sponsor

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.
Take this out. As Executive decrees are done by the president not by you. Second the president can not correct the part of the ministry of culture although he can easily dissolve the customs ministry. So until this act passes you will have to keep Culture.

reposted it because it was bottom paged.

[Battlion]

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.
Take this out. As Executive decrees are done by the president not by you. Second the president can not correct the part of the ministry of culture although he can easily dissolve the customs ministry. So until this act passes you will have to keep Culture.

Ministers can make decrees, just called Ministerial Directives?

[United Great Britian]

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.
Take this out. As Executive decrees are done by the president not by you. Second the president can not correct the part of the ministry of culture although he can easily dissolve the customs ministry. So until this act passes you will have to keep Culture.

Ministers can make decrees, just called Ministerial Directives?

Yeah, I believe they can.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.
Take this out. As Executive decrees are done by the president not by you. Second the president can not correct the part of the ministry of culture although he can easily dissolve the customs ministry. So until this act passes you will have to keep Culture.

Ministers can make decrees, just called Ministerial Directives?

Only for things associated with their ministry. But not sure.

[Battlion]

Ministers can make decrees, just called Ministerial Directives?

Only for things associated with their ministry. But not sure.

Yeah, I'm sure we can.

[The Nihilistic view]

I believe Research most certainly does, appropriating research grants and watching over our scientific front, but we intend to merge Business Safety with Labour in future (we being me and Nihil, not the Progress Coalition - I'll have their opinions when people start to get online). Thanks for your opinions though.



I'd also support the removal of IIIc, as I do not believe Nihil's position in government degraded his impartiality nor do I think Lamaredia's position will.

It's a fair principle, PpT is a busy job...

I'm not so sure on removing this one, next we'll be saying the President can be PpT...

Don't want the proposal to be too deconstructed that nothing changes

The current precedent is PpT or other officers resigning if elected to the executive already. Slippery slope and all that wot!

[Glasgia]

Ministers can make decrees, just called Ministerial Directives?

Only for things associated with their ministry. But not sure.

The cabinet's kind of my ministry, so I can make executive decrees on that - Whatever their name may be. I was following Ainin's example, from his time as Prime Minister.

Limitation of Bureaucracy Act
Category: Miscellaneous | Urgency: Low | Author: Prime Minister Robert Glasgia [MSP] | Sponsors: Great Nepal [NCP]

RECOGNISING: That the Ministry of Culture and Sports, alongside the Ministry of Customs, represents an unnecessary bureaucracy which could be far more efficiently handled by other departments within the government.

THEREFORE: Passes the Limitation of Bureaucracy Act to eliminate aforementioned unnecessary bureaucracy and create a more efficient government.


Article I.
Abolition of the Ministry of Culture and Sports
I. Hereby dissolves the Ministry of Culture and Sports, striking the following line - "The Ministry of Culture and Sports, with the task of protecting the cultural heritage of the country, promoting cultural and sportive activities and expression, manage cultural and sports agencies and organizations." - from the Ministry Foundation Act and declaring that line to be null and void.
II. Transfers all powers and personnel of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports, that were involved in education related tasks, to the Ministry of Education and allows the leadership of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports to allocate the appropriate funds for such a change
III. Therefore transcends all other powers and personnel of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports to local governments, to be divided as the leadership of the former Ministry of Culture and Sports seems fit
IV. Recommends all employees displaced by such transfers for preference upon application for vacant positions in government, if they apply within their speciality

Article II.
Abolition of the Ministry of Customs
I. Hereby dissolves the Ministry of Customs, declaring the executive order that established it to be null and void.
II. Establishes the Department of Customs and Immigration, under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of the Interior
III. Transfers all powers, personnel and finances of the former Ministry of Customs to the Department of Customs and Immigration

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.

I'll sponsor

Thanks!

[The Nihilistic view]

STATING: That such transfers have already been established in practice through executive decree, but shall be immediately corrected if this bill is to be struck down.
Take this out. As Executive decrees are done by the president not by you. Second the president can not correct the part of the ministry of culture although he can easily dissolve the customs ministry. So until this act passes you will have to keep Culture.

Ministers can make decrees, just called Ministerial Directives?

As long as A) they have the power in that area given to them in law and B) it does not go against passed legislation yes.

[Battlion]

It's a fair principle, PpT is a busy job...

I'm not so sure on removing this one, next we'll be saying the President can be PpT...

Don't want the proposal to be too deconstructed that nothing changes

The current precedent is PpT or other officers resigning if elected to the executive already. Slippery slope and all that wot!

It's not required though, it's a convention at best.

We should at least put the convention into law

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

again glas you can not dismiss a ministry via a degree if it is required by law. Same goes with programs.

[Battlion]

again glas you can not dismiss a ministry via a degree if it is required by law. Same goes with programs.

He hasn't, he announced Michael Quinn (the Minister of Education aka Me) as the new Minister of Culture and Sports until the legislation comes into effect.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

again glas you can not dismiss a ministry via a degree if it is required by law. Same goes with programs.

He hasn't, he announced Michael Quinn (the Minister of Education aka Me) as the new Minister of Culture and Sports until the legislation comes into effect.

Still even so you must work with the staff of that ministry before getting the transfer to education only. So in other words there has to be a budget for that ministry and everything undertaken into that capacity.

[Battlion]

He hasn't, he announced Michael Quinn (the Minister of Education aka Me) as the new Minister of Culture and Sports until the legislation comes into effect.

Still even so you must work with the staff of that ministry before getting the transfer to education only. So in other words there has to be a budget for that ministry and everything undertaken into that capacity.

Yes I am fully aware that I've got to manage two Ministries and do the accounting for both.

[Glasgia]

He hasn't, he announced Michael Quinn (the Minister of Education aka Me) as the new Minister of Culture and Sports until the legislation comes into effect.

Still even so you must work with the staff of that ministry before getting the transfer to education only. So in other words there has to be a budget for that ministry and everything undertaken into that capacity.

There is still a budget for that ministry, as your budget is still in effect.

[The Nihilistic view]

Still even so you must work with the staff of that ministry before getting the transfer to education only. So in other words there has to be a budget for that ministry and everything undertaken into that capacity.

There is still a budget for that ministry, as your budget is still in effect.

Well budgets last a term so there in no actual budget right now.

[Battlion]

There is still a budget for that ministry, as your budget is still in effect.

Well budgets last a term so there in no actual budget right now.

No, budgets as a general rule of thumb run out when the new one is passed.

That's how it is done everywhere

[The Nihilistic view]

Well budgets last a term so there in no actual budget right now.

No, budgets as a general rule of thumb run out when the new one is passed.

That's how it is done everywhere

We don't pass budgets here, they are set at the beginning of a term.

[United Great Britian]

I'm just saving this draft before the old coffee shop is locked so I don't lose it. Not done yet.

Commonwealth Cadet Corps Act
Author: Ainin | Urgency: Low | Sponsors:

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The Senate of Aurentina,

Acknowledging that children represent the future of Aurentina,

Believing it critical to create good citizens for tomorrow,

Establishes the Commonwealth Cadet Corps (CCC), under control of the Ministry of Defence,


Section One - Goals and Responsibilities of the Cadet Program

The mission statement of the CCC is to "provide lessons in order and good citizenship through fun and challenging activities".
The motto of the CCC is to be "Ipsa scientia potestas est" (Knowledge is power).
The CCC shall not request any sum of money to participants or their legal guardian(s) unless it is to repay property directly damaged by the participant.
The participant (cadet) shall be supervised at any and all times by a high-ranking cadet (cadet officer), military officer (staff) or civilian volunteer (civilian instructor).
The Ministry of Defence is to fund and operate the CCC.


Section Two - Staff of the Cadet Program

Staff of the cadet program shall be commissioned officers of the Commonwealth Armed Forces Reserve.
A maximal ratio of 20:1 cadets to staff is to be enforced by the Ministry of Defence.
All staff are to be payed at least twice the minimum wage, which will be included as a bonus in the standard wage, for work with the Cadet program.
A unit of cadets and their staff is to be known as a Squadron.

Hereby passes the Commonwealth Cadet Corps Act

Bringing this back.

[Great Nepal]

Governmental Organisational Act
Urgency: Medium| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Co-sponsors: Senator Jameson T. Pace [IND]| Category: Miscellaneous

Section 1 - Repeals
a) Ministry Foundation Act and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.
b) Transportation Ministry Provision Act 2013 and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.

Section 2 - Ministerial departments
a) Ministerial departments shall be departments led by a politically appointed indivudal by reining prime minister and shall be member of the cabinet.
b) Ministerial departments shall referred to ministry of A, where A shall be the formal title of the ministry such as "Ministry of Research".
c) Politically appointed lead on the ministerial departments shall be formally referred to as "Honourable Secretary of State for A" where A shall be formal title of the ministry.
d) Ministerial departments or Honourable Secretary of State may be created, abolished or reshuffled at sole discretion of the prime minister.
e) Honourable Secretary of State may at their sole discretion appoint deputy secretary of state(s) to assist them in discharge of their duties.
f) Honourable Secretary of State shall have powers as specified in the executive decree decreed by prime minister provided it does not conflict with any pre-existing bills passed by the act of senate.

Section 3 - Non ministerial department
a) Non ministerial department shall be departments led by a senior civil servants known as permanent secretary and shall be for tasks where direct political oversight is unnecessary or inappropriate.
b) Non ministerial department may be created either by decrees issued by prime minister, honourable secretary of state or by acts of senate with powers and authorities delegated by said decrees or acts provided it does not violate pre-existing acts of senate.
c) Lead on non ministerial department shall be appointed in an non-partisan basis by the president as per recommendation of Public Service Commission.
d) Non ministerial departments shall submit yearly reports to Senate President Pro Tempore and Secretary of the Senate.

Section 4 - Advisory non departmental public body
a) Advisory non departmental public body shall be autonomous non governmental organisations responsible for advising parent secretary of state on regards to policies and bills.
b) Advisory non departmental public body may be created by decree decreed by the honourable secretary of state and may compose of senators from all sides of political spectrum.
c) Advisory non departmental public body shall be funded by parent ministerial department.

Section 5 - Public Service Commission
a) Public Service Commission shall be responsible for selecting meritorious candidates required for vacant posts of all the civil service and setting up tiers of pay for civil service.
b) Chairman of the commission shall be appointed for period of six years by public elections and s/he shall appoint members as required to fulfil the tasks required for discharge of duties of the Public Service Commission.
c) Any citizen of Aurentina shall be eligible for standing for elections of Chairman of the commission provided they have served for at least eight years in civil service and has a masters degree or has served for at least three year in civil service and has a doctorate.
d) Public Service Commission shall have duties as specified:

i. Conducting examinations for the selection of suitable candidates to be appointed to various civil service posts.
ii. Providing recommendation to any position of civil service which carries pension greater than standard national pension.
iii. Submitting monthly report to the president who shall then present the report to the senate regarding the work it has carried out.
iv. Public Service Commission shall conduct conducts examinations for selection of candidates by one or more of the following procedures:

α. Open competitive written examination,
β. Open competitive practical examination,
Γ. Selection,
Δ. Interview and
ε. Any other methods adopted by the Commission.

v. In order to maintain fairness and impartiality in the selection process, the commission shall conduct tests as per multi-blindness principle whereby setting and moderation of questions, checking of answer sheets, conduction of interviews as well as result of written examinations and interviews are carried out in a manner that officials involved are kept in anonymity to each other.

I think this sorts out the issues as well as expanding on various issues for short and long term...
Section 6 - Salaries
a) Secretary of state shall for all intent and purposes be entitled to salaries of ministers as per Senate Salaries Act.
b) Deputy Secretary of state shall be entitled to £500 a month, not inclusive of the salary gained as per their position as senator.
c) Permanent secretary shall be entitled to salary as determined by the Public Service Commission.
d) Members of advisory non departmental public body shall be entitled to salary as agreed upon with the parent ministry.

[United Great Britian]

Governmental Organisational Act
Urgency: Medium| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Co-sponsors:| Category: Miscellaneous

Section 1 - Repeals
a) Ministry Foundation Act and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.
b) Transportation Ministry Provision Act 2013 and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.
c) The Commerce Ministry Act and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.

Section 2 - Ministerial departments
a) Ministerial departments shall be departments led by a politically appointed indivudal by reining prime minister and shall be member of the cabinet.
b) Ministerial departments shall referred to ministry of A, where A shall be the formal title of the ministry such as "Ministry of Research".
c) Politically appointed lead on the ministerial departments shall be formally referred to as "Honourable Secretary of State for A" where A shall be formal title of the ministry.
d) Ministerial departments or Honourable Secretary of State may be created, abolished or reshuffled at sole discretion of the prime minister.
e) Honourable Secretary of State may at their sole discretion appoint deputy secretary of state(s) to assist them in discharge of their duties.
f) Honourable Secretary of State shall have powers as specified in the executive decree decreed by prime minister provided it does not conflict with any pre-existing bills passed by the act of senate.

Section 3 - Non ministerial department
a) Non ministerial department shall be departments led by a senior civil servants known as permanent secretary and shall be for tasks where direct political oversight is unnecessary or inappropriate.
b) Non ministerial department may be created either by decrees issued by prime minister, honourable secretary of state or by acts of senate with powers and authorities delegated by said decrees or acts provided it does not violate pre-existing acts of senate.
c) Lead on non ministerial department shall be appointed in an non-partisan basis by the president as per recommendation of Public Service Commission.
d) Non ministerial departments shall submit yearly reports to Senate President Pro Tempore and Secretary of the Senate.

Section 4 - Advisory non departmental public body
a) Advisory non departmental public body shall be autonomous non governmental organisations responsible for advising parent secretary of state on regards to policies and bills.
b) Advisory non departmental public body may be created by decree decreed by the honourable secretary of state and may compose of senators from all sides of political spectrum.
c) Advisory non departmental public body shall be funded by parent ministerial department.

Section 5 - Public Service Commission
a) Public Service Commission shall be responsible for selecting meritorious candidates required for vacant posts of all the civil service and setting up tiers of pay for civil service.
b) Chairman of the commission shall be appointed for period of six years by public elections and s/he shall appoint members as required to fulfil the tasks required for discharge of duties of the Public Service Commission.
c) Any citizen of Aurentina shall be eligible for standing for elections of Chairman of the commission provided they have served for at least eight years in civil service and has a masters degree or has served for at least three year in civil service and has a doctorate.
d) Public Service Commission shall have duties as specified:

i. Conducting examinations for the selection of suitable candidates to be appointed to various civil service posts.
ii. Providing recommendation to any position of civil service which carries pension greater than standard national pension.
iii. Submitting monthly report to the president who shall then present the report to the senate regarding the work it has carried out.
iv. Public Service Commission shall conduct conducts examinations for selection of candidates by one or more of the following procedures:

α. Open competitive written examination,
β. Open competitive practical examination,
Γ. Selection,
Δ. Interview and
ε. Any other methods adopted by the Commission.

v. In order to maintain fairness and impartiality in the selection process, the commission shall conduct tests as per multi-blindness principle whereby setting and moderation of questions, checking of answer sheets, conduction of interviews as well as result of written examinations and interviews are carried out in a manner that officials involved are kept in anonymity to each other.

I think this sorts out the issues as well as expanding on various issues for short and long term...
Section 6 - Salaries
a) Secretary of state shall for all intent and purposes be entitled to salaries of ministers as per Senate Salaries Act.
b) Deputy Secretary of state shall be entitled to £500 a month, not inclusive of the salary gained as per their position as senator.
c) Permanent secretary shall be entitled to salary as determined by the Public Service Commission.
d) Members of advisory non departmental public body shall be entitled to salary as agreed upon with the parent ministry.

I sponsor.

[Great Nepal]

Governmental Organisational Act
Urgency: Medium| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Co-sponsors:| Category: Miscellaneous

Section 1 - Repeals
a) Ministry Foundation Act and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.
b) Transportation Ministry Provision Act 2013 and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.
c) The Commerce Ministry Act and any amendments to thereof shall be declared null and void.

Section 2 - Ministerial departments
a) Ministerial departments shall be departments led by a politically appointed indivudal by reining prime minister and shall be member of the cabinet.
b) Ministerial departments shall referred to ministry of A, where A shall be the formal title of the ministry such as "Ministry of Research".
c) Politically appointed lead on the ministerial departments shall be formally referred to as "Honourable Secretary of State for A" where A shall be formal title of the ministry.
d) Ministerial departments or Honourable Secretary of State may be created, abolished or reshuffled at sole discretion of the prime minister.
e) Honourable Secretary of State may at their sole discretion appoint deputy secretary of state(s) to assist them in discharge of their duties.
f) Honourable Secretary of State shall have powers as specified in the executive decree decreed by prime minister provided it does not conflict with any pre-existing bills passed by the act of senate.

Section 3 - Non ministerial department
a) Non ministerial department shall be departments led by a senior civil servants known as permanent secretary and shall be for tasks where direct political oversight is unnecessary or inappropriate.
b) Non ministerial department may be created either by decrees issued by prime minister, honourable secretary of state or by acts of senate with powers and authorities delegated by said decrees or acts provided it does not violate pre-existing acts of senate.
c) Lead on non ministerial department shall be appointed in an non-partisan basis by the president as per recommendation of Public Service Commission.
d) Non ministerial departments shall submit yearly reports to Senate President Pro Tempore and Secretary of the Senate.

Section 4 - Advisory non departmental public body
a) Advisory non departmental public body shall be autonomous non governmental organisations responsible for advising parent secretary of state on regards to policies and bills.
b) Advisory non departmental public body may be created by decree decreed by the honourable secretary of state and may compose of senators from all sides of political spectrum.
c) Advisory non departmental public body shall be funded by parent ministerial department.

Section 5 - Public Service Commission
a) Public Service Commission shall be responsible for selecting meritorious candidates required for vacant posts of all the civil service and setting up tiers of pay for civil service.
b) Chairman of the commission shall be appointed for period of six years by public elections and s/he shall appoint members as required to fulfil the tasks required for discharge of duties of the Public Service Commission.
c) Any citizen of Aurentina shall be eligible for standing for elections of Chairman of the commission provided they have served for at least eight years in civil service and has a masters degree or has served for at least three year in civil service and has a doctorate.
d) Public Service Commission shall have duties as specified:

i. Conducting examinations for the selection of suitable candidates to be appointed to various civil service posts.
ii. Providing recommendation to any position of civil service which carries pension greater than standard national pension.
iii. Submitting monthly report to the president who shall then present the report to the senate regarding the work it has carried out.
iv. Public Service Commission shall conduct conducts examinations for selection of candidates by one or more of the following procedures:

α. Open competitive written examination,
β. Open competitive practical examination,
Γ. Selection,
Δ. Interview and
ε. Any other methods adopted by the Commission.

v. In order to maintain fairness and impartiality in the selection process, the commission shall conduct tests as per multi-blindness principle whereby setting and moderation of questions, checking of answer sheets, conduction of interviews as well as result of written examinations and interviews are carried out in a manner that officials involved are kept in anonymity to each other.

I think this sorts out the issues as well as expanding on various issues for short and long term...
Section 6 - Salaries
a) Secretary of state shall for all intent and purposes be entitled to salaries of ministers as per Senate Salaries Act.
b) Deputy Secretary of state shall be entitled to £500 a month, not inclusive of the salary gained as per their position as senator.
c) Permanent secretary shall be entitled to salary as determined by the Public Service Commission.
d) Members of advisory non departmental public body shall be entitled to salary as agreed upon with the parent ministry.

I sponsor.

Thank you, added.

[United Great Britian]

I sponsor.

Thank you, added.

You are welcome!

[The Nihilistic view]

GN, whilst I like element's of your bill I much prefer what Brit laid out ministry wise, similar to such an idea Glas and myself had earlier. If somehow both could be combined in one that would be my preferred bill.