Alliance for Aurentina [NSG Senate]

[Jetan]

So now I will suddenly be my boss's boss?

You'll be my boss. My ministry was given to CMP so I'm going to be the Junior Minister of Interior.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Well i am only saying what is my opinion on taxes.BTW i live in a country with flat taxes and there are no problems.People always love to pay less taxes

[Of the Quendi]

I don't see why introducing taxes targeting the rich are bad. While I don't think it is fair to tax them excessively to place taxes on products they alone can afford is not unreasonable.

Petrol is damaging to the environment and should be used as little as possible, taxes accomplish that. Taxing airlines accomplish the same thing.

Overall I think that it would be much more sensible to introduce taxes like these and then lower the income tax rate instead.

Yes, but we're essentially making driving possible only for the well off with these taxes.

And what about family heirlooms, they could get taxed for those despite never intending to use them

No we aren't. We make it economically sensible to consider an alternative to a car with a poor fuel economy. Unless we tax several hundred percents on petroleum we aren't making it impossible to drive.

As for unused heirlooms they can sell those, and you can always refuse to receive an inheritance.

Well i am only saying what is my opinion on taxes.BTW i live in a country with flat taxes and there are no problems.People always love to pay less taxes

Not always. Propose tax cuts in my country and your approval rating is likely to drop. And I will never understand the fairness of a flat tax rate.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

There are two type's of fair.Depends from what side are you looking at it.
1 side Ordinary people-Why should they pay the same ammout of taxes.It is not fair it is only fair for them to pay more.(Mind it even under fair taxes they pay more)
2side the people who have money-Why should the country punish me becase i earn more money due to my hard work.
it is a duel argument side.I am always not to tax people that did their best and invested in their fortune and education not to be taxed more.
And a question will you refuse an inheritance?

[Geadland]

I'm highly tempted to create an overblown right-wing tabloid to counter Ainin's news channel.

Well i am only saying what is my opinion on taxes.BTW i live in a country with flat taxes and there are no problems.People always love to pay less taxes

Which country do you live in?

As the coalition's candidate for Finance Minister, I'd say that the incumbent government would keep the current progressive tax system. We'd like taxes to be lowered, but keeping debt under control is also important.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Alright, alright. We all can agree that we don't want a high tax burden

[Britanno]

I'm highly tempted to create an overblown right-wing tabloid to counter Ainin's news channel.

Another one was created, but I don't think it will be bias like Ainin's.

[Wolfmanne]

I am against taxing the rich people bacase why should i that have accomplished much more pay more taxes becase i earn much more money due to my own labor.I see that as proposterus.
I always go with flat taxes that are the same for everyone.

Flat taxes are simply unfair. The vast, vast majority of people won't accept them.

Agreed. Look what happened to Britain when Thatcher tried it.

[Battlion]

We're not issuing whips are we, I see many leftist parties doing it and I think it's simply unfair and infringes everyone's right to vote without interference, it's something I think we need to get rid of.

I'm on about the Presidential election before everyone thinks I'm talking about whips in general

[The Realm of God]

Flat taxes are simply unfair. The vast, vast majority of people won't accept them.

Agreed. Look what happened to Britain when Thatcher tried it.

The main problem is that a flat tax is not a Conservative idea it's a new untested, somewhat radical and impractical system that needs to be carefully tested before it is employed.

[Of the Quendi]

There are two type's of fair.Depends from what side are you looking at it.
1 side Ordinary people-Why should they pay the same ammout of taxes.It is not fair it is only fair for them to pay more.(Mind it even under fair taxes they pay more)
2side the people who have money-Why should the country punish me becase i earn more money due to my hard work.
it is a duel argument side.I am always not to tax people that did their best and invested in their fortune and education not to be taxed more.
And a question will you refuse an inheritance?

Well since an inheritance can include debt I might. Besides whether I given two choices are unlikely to make on of the choices is irrelevant from a tax collecting perspective.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

It is from a peoples perspective.BTW i live in the Republic of Macedonia.We have a flat tax sistem of 10% income tax.
The question was without debt.Only inheritance.

[The Realm of God]

Electoral prediction.

At the moment if the vote remains the same when.we move into the second round I can see a perfect deadlock.

As we can see

Britanno (AfA): 55
Yanalia (ProgCo): 45
Malgrave (USLP): 11
TaQud (IND): 1
Holyhex (GRN): 1
The IASM (IND): 1

Now I suspect that the USLP will vote for Yanalia in the second round adding eleven votes. Which brings his total to 56, to this we can add Holyhex's vote bringing the ProgCo vote to 57. I can predict that the IASM and TaQud will vote AfA due to their right wing stance thus bringing our total to 57.

It's going to be close and we need all the people we have to vote.

[Wolfmanne]

Electoral prediction.

At the moment if the vote remains the same when.we move into the second round I can see a perfect deadlock.

As we can see

Britanno (AfA): 55
Yanalia (ProgCo): 45
Malgrave (USLP): 11
TaQud (IND): 1
Holyhex (GRN): 1
The IASM (IND): 1

Now I suspect that the USLP will vote for Yanalia in the second round adding eleven votes. Which brings his total to 56, to this we can add Holyhex's vote bringing the ProgCo vote to 57. I can predict that the IASM and TaQud will vote AfA due to their right wing stance thus bringing our total to 57.

It's going to be close and we need all the people we have to vote.

I've TGed every party member who hasn't vote and will continue to do so at least once a day before I go to bed. It would be impressive to have 100% turnout.

[Great Nepal]

I've TGed every party member who hasn't vote and will continue to do so at least once a day before I go to bed. It would be impressive to have 100% turnout.

I doubt that is nessecery for first round, we are not going to be able to win in first round and we are definitely getting into second round...

[Wolfmanne]

I've TGed every party member who hasn't vote and will continue to do so at least once a day before I go to bed. It would be impressive to have 100% turnout.

I doubt that is nessecery for first round, we are not going to be able to win in first round and we are definitely getting into second round...

Still doing it anyway .

[The Realm of God]

Electoral prediction.

At the moment if the vote remains the same when.we move into the second round I can see a perfect deadlock.

As we can see

Britanno (AfA): 55
Yanalia (ProgCo): 45
Malgrave (USLP): 11
TaQud (IND): 1
Holyhex (GRN): 1
The IASM (IND): 1

Now I suspect that the USLP will vote for Yanalia in the second round adding eleven votes. Which brings his total to 56, to this we can add Holyhex's vote bringing the ProgCo vote to 57. I can predict that the IASM and TaQud will vote AfA due to their right wing stance thus bringing our total to 57.

It's going to be close and we need all the people we have to vote.

I've TGed every party member who hasn't vote and will continue to do so at least once a day before I go to bed. It would be impressive to have 100% turnout.

If the present situation continues the best we can hope for is that some USLP members will vote for us because it is better rhetorically for them if we are in power. However this election is going to be decided on 0.0# percentages.

[Great Nepal]

I doubt that is nessecery for first round, we are not going to be able to win in first round and we are definitely getting into second round...

Still doing it anyway .

Actually, your way is right... We only need 5 more votes to have simple majority. I will start TG.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Still doing it anyway .

Actually, your way is right... We only need 5 more votes to have simple majority. I will start TG.

It's better to have a simple majority now than go to a second round

[Of the Quendi]

I've TGed every party member who hasn't vote and will continue to do so at least once a day before I go to bed. It would be impressive to have 100% turnout.

I doubt that is nessecery for first round, we are not going to be able to win in first round and we are definitely getting into second round...

Not definitely. We are so close to fifty percent that it isn't entirely impossible that we can win it.

EDIT: Never mind.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Electoral prediction.

At the moment if the vote remains the same when.we move into the second round I can see a perfect deadlock.

As we can see

Britanno (AfA): 55
Yanalia (ProgCo): 45
Malgrave (USLP): 11
TaQud (IND): 1
Holyhex (GRN): 1
The IASM (IND): 1

Now I suspect that the USLP will vote for Yanalia in the second round adding eleven votes. Which brings his total to 56, to this we can add Holyhex's vote bringing the ProgCo vote to 57. I can predict that the IASM and TaQud will vote AfA due to their right wing stance thus bringing our total to 57.

It's going to be close and we need all the people we have to vote.

Id be willing to bet on USLP abstaining from second round.

[The Realm of God]

Electoral prediction.

At the moment if the vote remains the same when.we move into the second round I can see a perfect deadlock.

As we can see

Britanno (AfA): 55
Yanalia (ProgCo): 45
Malgrave (USLP): 11
TaQud (IND): 1
Holyhex (GRN): 1
The IASM (IND): 1

Now I suspect that the USLP will vote for Yanalia in the second round adding eleven votes. Which brings his total to 56, to this we can add Holyhex's vote bringing the ProgCo vote to 57. I can predict that the IASM and TaQud will vote AfA due to their right wing stance thus bringing our total to 57.

It's going to be close and we need all the people we have to vote.

Id be willing to bet on USLP abstaining from second round.

In which case the odds would be in favour of us winning the day unless there is a tonne of backroom politicking.

[New Zepuha]

The USLP is kinda unpredictable here really. Britanno is up to 56 now.

[Battlion]

The USLP is kinda unpredictable here really. Britanno is up to 56 now.

We need to get more of our vote out, it's going to be close but we can't afford to lose.

[The Realm of God]

The USLP is kinda unpredictable here really. Britanno is up to 56 now.

I still find it odd that the USLP would decide an election. I never saw that coming