Alliance for Aurentina [NSG Senate]

by **CTALNH** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:17 am

These guys probably are though...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aurr ... l=factbook

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:19 am

CTALNH wrote:These guys probably are though...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aurr ... l=factbook

And neither you nor USLP would know anything that might lead to their arrests, right?

by **CTALNH** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:22 am

Great Nepal wrote:
CTALNH wrote:These guys probably are though...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aurr ... l=factbook

And neither you nor USLP would know anything that might lead to their arrests, right?

The USLP and me have nothing to do with it...

Really honest.

by **New Sapienta** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:22 am

CTALNH wrote:These guys probably are though...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aurr ... l=factbook

Well....

by **CTALNH** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:25 am

New Sapienta wrote:
CTALNH wrote:These guys probably are though...

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=aurr ... l=factbook

Well....

Hmm yes?

by **National Gendarmerie** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:26 am

What's going on in this thread?

by **New Sapienta** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:26 am

CTALNH wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Well....

Hmm yes?

Certainly there must be some....friendly contacts within some of the parties.

Report suspicious behavior honest citizen!

by **New Sapienta** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:27 am

National Gendarmerie wrote:What's going on in this thread?

Rumors of treason officer.

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:28 am

CTALNH wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:And neither you nor USLP would know anything that might lead to their arrests, right?

The USLP and me have nothing to do with it...

Really honest.

Of course, no true representative of people should associate themselves with terrorist organisations, anyone who does so is a traitor against the state, right senator?
(ooc: I dont know why but I find USLP's double speak quite cool...)

by **CTALNH** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:30 am

New Sapienta wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Hmm yes?

Certainly there must be some....friendly contacts within some of the parties.

Report suspicious behavior honest citizen!

They seem to have contacts with groups outside of Aurentina....

Like the FARC and RIRA.

by **Bleckonia** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:31 am

Belmaria needs a cabinet isospin. He's getting objectivists to vote in exchange for one.

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:35 am

Bleckonia wrote:Belmaria needs a cabinet isospin. He's getting objectivists to vote in exchange for one.

Britanno isn't online (I think), just tell them we will agree to give them one ministry which can be decided when others are online.
My suggestion: Lets create ministry of information.

by **Kalmath** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:37 am

National Defence Act
Author: Kalmath
Urgency: Significant

DECLARING that in a increasingly dangerous world the security of our nation take heightened importance.

RECOMMENDS the following measures to elevate security.

§ I - Formation of the Defence Research Department

(A) Establishing the Defence Research Department within the Ministry of Defense to produce, procure and study new and improved ways to better Aurentina's defense and security. (B) All of the DRD's projects shall be considered Top Secret, therefore shall be on a need to know basis. (C) DRD Chief will be required to deliver a report every six months to the President and every month to the Minister of Defense on the happenings and doings of the DRD. (D) The President and Minister of Defense may also request a report from the Defence Research Department Chief.

§ II - Inception of Ministry of Intelligence

(A) Creating the Ministry of Intelligence as a sub-department within the Ministry of Interiors whose purpose it is to provide intelligence on foreign threats to national security. (B) This Ministry shall not maintain nor allow operation on Aurentine soil. (C) The Minster of Intelligence, head of the Ministry of Intelligence, shall give weekly briefings to Minister of Interiors on current operations and possible threats to Aurentina and her allies.

§ III - Intelligence Community Cooperation

(A) The Ministry of Intelligence and the National Gendarmerie shall share all information regarding threats to the national security of Aurentina.

§ V - Creation of The Ministry of Emergency Management

(A) The Ministry of Emergency Management, sub-department of Ministry of Interiors, will retain the duty of disaster relief and preparedness for Aurentina. The MEA will also have the burden of foreign Aurentine diplomatic facilities and will take part in rescue and recovery of Aurentine Citizens from hazardous areas.

§ VI - National Gendarmerie Public Official Security

(A) It will be the responsibility of the National Gendarmerie to maintain the safety of Aurentine diplomats and public officials.

(B) The National Gendarmerie shall also have the duty of protection of the President, Prime Minister and all the members of the Council of State until that bodies dissolution.

If we pass this act will need a a few new Ministers.

by **Of the Quendi** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:01 am

Kouralia wrote:Actually it's arms smuggling, IIRC.

And a whole host of legal businesses. Martial Law basically means 'The army comes in and kicks the Mafia shitless for 48 hours'. I'd like to see their 'armoured SUVs' against a Puma IFV.

They don't deal in drugs? Well then it should be easy cracking down on their illegal activities. As for there legal ones well we can't crack down on those but then we don't need to. As for having the army kick there asses that is not something the army is qualified to do. If we have a problem with the Mafia's weaponry then we give the police extra powerful weaponry and leave it at that. A frivolous declaration of martial law is even worse than a justified one.

Britanno wrote:I added on anther 5 hours, for the sake of those who are asleep.

Vedastia is the LFP nominee for Minister for International Development.

Britanno wrote:Unless it is absolutely necessary, I will not be voting in the elections.

It is absolutely necessary. Though I am all for modesty and humility when there is nothing on the line I don't think the presidential election is something to be gambled with. In the first round you can abstain if you like since we are extremely unlikely to loose that one, but in the second round I implore you to vote. Assuming those currently voting for Malgrave will pass to Yanalia then the second round will be far to close for anyone to abstain.

Great Nepal wrote:The suggestion was from president's party. It would be like CPP or PC supporting genocide and us claiming it to be "party view".

The two things are incomparable and lets try to focus on why our candidate/coalition is great not why the other ones suck.

Bleckonia wrote:
Britanno wrote:Nepal and Bleckonia have you made any decisions yet on who will be filling the ministries you have claimed?

No one else from NCP claimed Junior Interior, so I'll take on that post if I'm allowed.

So now I will suddenly be my boss's boss? Interesting. :eyebrow:

New Sapienta wrote:I just realized that if the USLP does launch a revolution, Hath(Minster for Defense) and I(Junior Minster of Defense, official title is Minister of State for Defense) will be very busy if we are elected.

Defense protects the state from external threats. An internal threat is dealt with by Justice and possibly Interior.

Bleckonia wrote:Belmaria needs a cabinet isospin. He's getting objectivists to vote in exchange for one.

Has he specifically asked for a cabinet seat?

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:50 am

Britanno, I seriously think you should vote for yourself now... it looks like we can conclude this in first round but it is very close call (we have 50.5% support) and going into second round is hassle.

by **Of the Quendi** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:54 am

Kalmath wrote:
National Defence Act
Author: Kalmath
Urgency: Significant

DECLARING that in a increasingly dangerous world the security of our nation take heightened importance.

RECOMMENDS the following measures to elevate security.

§ I - Formation of the Defence Research Department

(A) Establishing the Defence Research Department within the Ministry of Defense to produce, procure and study new and improved ways to better Aurentina's defense and security. (B) All of the DRD's projects shall be considered Top Secret, therefore shall be on a need to know basis. (C) DRD Chief will be required to deliver a report every six months to the President and every month to the Minister of Defense on the happenings and doings of the DRD. (D) The President and Minister of Defense may also request a report from the Defence Research Department Chief.

§ II - Inception of Ministry of Intelligence

(A) Creating the Ministry of Intelligence as a sub-department within the Ministry of Interiors whose purpose it is to provide intelligence on foreign threats to national security. (B) This Ministry shall not maintain nor allow operation on Aurentine soil. (C) The Minster of Intelligence, head of the Ministry of Intelligence, shall give weekly briefings to Minister of Interiors on current operations and possible threats to Aurentina and her allies.

§ III - Intelligence Community Cooperation

(A) The Ministry of Intelligence and the National Gendarmerie shall share all information regarding threats to the national security of Aurentina.

§ V - Creation of The Ministry of Emergency Management

(A) The Ministry of Emergency Management, sub-department of Ministry of Interiors, will retain the duty of disaster relief and preparedness for Aurentina. The MEA will also have the burden of foreign Aurentine diplomatic facilities and will take part in rescue and recovery of Aurentine Citizens from hazardous areas.

§ VI - National Gendarmerie Public Official Security

(A) It will be the responsibility of the National Gendarmerie to maintain the safety of Aurentine diplomats and public officials.

(B) The National Gendarmerie shall also have the duty of protection of the President, Prime Minister and all the members of the Council of State until that bodies dissolution.

If we pass this act will need a a few new Ministers.

I don't want to create two new ministries to do something that can be handled elsewhere. Emergency should remain a department of Interior and Intelligence can sort under Justice, Defense and Interior.

Great Nepal wrote:Britanno, I seriously think you should vote for yourself now... it looks like we can conclude this in first round but it is very close call (we have 50.5% support) and going into second round is hassle.

Seconded. Also what is the rule of proxy voting? One of my members have given me authority to vote on his/hers behalf, is that allowed?

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:55 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Britanno, I seriously think you should vote for yourself now... it looks like we can conclude this in first round but it is very close call (we have 50.5% support) and going into second round is hassle.
Seconded. Also what is the rule of proxy voting? One of my members have given me authority to vote on his/hers behalf, is that allowed?

Yes, proxy voting is allowed. Just give link to the screenshot and vote on his/her behalf for Britanno.

by **Britanno** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:03 am

[Just come online]

The Cabinet

President: Britanno (CPP)
VP: Regnum Dominae (LFP)
PM: Bleckonia (NCP)
DPM: Pagia (CFE)
Commerce: Maryginia (FRP)
Justice: New Zephua (CPP)
Interiors: Quendia (LFP)
Junior Interiors: Jetan (NCP)
Defence: Hathraric Sates (NIFP)
Science, Research and Technology: Great Nepal (CFE)
Education: Battlion (CPP)
Finance: Geedland (PC)
Health: Angleter (RefP)
Energy: The Zeonic States (NIFP)
Junior Energy: Regnum Dominae (LFP)
Culture and Sports: Diopolis (CMP)
Foreign Affairs: The Realm of God (PC)
Environment: Namor (NCP)
Transport: The State of Czecho-Slovakia (PC)
Without Portfolio: The Grand Republic of Hannover (CPP)
Infrastructure: CFE
Veteran Affairs: Byzantium Imperial (NIFP)
Labour: Finium (PC)
International Development: Vedastia (LFP)

If we want to give the Objectivists a place in the cabinet, then we need to either create a new position or someone needs to give one of their's up.

by **Of the Quendi** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:06 am

Britanno wrote:[Just come online]

The Cabinet

President: Britanno (CPP)
VP: Regnum Dominae (LFP)
PM: Bleckonia (NCP)
DPM: Pagia (CFE)
Commerce: Maryginia (FRP)
Justice: New Zephua (CPP)
Interiors: Quendia (LFP)
Junior Interiors: Jetan (NCP)
Defence: Hathraric Sates (NIFP)
Science, Research and Technology: Great Nepal (CFE)
Education: Battlion (CPP)
Finance: Geedland (PC)
Health: Angleter (RefP)
Energy: The Zeonic States (NIFP)
Junior Energy: Regnum Dominae (LFP)
Culture and Sports: Diopolis (CMP)
Foreign Affairs: The Realm of God (PC)
Environment: Namor (NCP)
Transport: The State of Czecho-Slovakia (PC)
Without Portfolio: The Grand Republic of Hannover (CPP)
Infrastructure: CFE
Veteran Affairs: Byzantium Imperial (NIFP)
Labour: Finium (PC)
International Development: Vedastia (LFP)

If we want to give the Objectivists a place in the cabinet, then we need to either create a new position or someone needs to give one of their's up.

I have some difficulty grasping that the Objectivists will want a cabinet seat. If they join the government they will have to agree to its policies and I doubt they will do so.

But since we never established my Ministry for Food, Agriculture and Fisheries we can give them that in the unlikely event that they will agree to the alliance policies.

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:07 am

Britanno wrote:If we want to give the Objectivists a place in the cabinet, then we need to either create a new position or someone needs to give one of their's up.

Create new one: ministry of Information and Communications. Responsible for public relations, telecommunications, broadcasting standards, public information, content ratings etc.

by **Kalmath** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:10 am

Britanno wrote:[Just come online]

The Cabinet

President: Britanno (CPP)
VP: Regnum Dominae (LFP)
PM: Bleckonia (NCP)
DPM: Pagia (CFE)
Commerce: Maryginia (FRP)
Justice: New Zephua (CPP)
Interiors: Quendia (LFP)
Junior Interiors: Jetan (NCP)
Defence: Hathraric Sates (NIFP)
Science, Research and Technology: Great Nepal (CFE)
Education: Battlion (CPP)
Finance: Geedland (PC)
Health: Angleter (RefP)
Energy: The Zeonic States (NIFP)
Junior Energy: Regnum Dominae (LFP)
Culture and Sports: Diopolis (CMP)
Foreign Affairs: The Realm of God (PC)
Environment: Namor (NCP)
Transport: The State of Czecho-Slovakia (PC)
Without Portfolio: The Grand Republic of Hannover (CPP)
Infrastructure: CFE
Veteran Affairs: Byzantium Imperial (NIFP)
Labour: Finium (PC)
International Development: Vedastia (LFP)

If we want to give the Objectivists a place in the cabinet, then we need to either create a new position or someone needs to give one of their's up.

Quendi agreed that I can head the National Gendarmerie under his position as Minister of the Interiors.

by **Britanno** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:11 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Britanno wrote:If we want to give the Objectivists a place in the cabinet, then we need to either create a new position or someone needs to give one of their's up.

Create new one: ministry of Information and Communications. Responsible for public relations, telecommunications, broadcasting standards, public information, content ratings etc.

You decided who gets infrastructure yet?

by **Britanno** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:13 am

Oh and guys, stop going on about me not voting. There is over 80 hours left and I will vote if it is necessary near the end.

by **Great Nepal** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:18 am

Britanno wrote:You decided who gets infrastructure yet?

Not yet, you will have the name soon though.

Britanno wrote:Oh and guys, stop going on about me not voting. There is over 80 hours left and I will vote if it is necessary near the end.

We have 80 hours? 100 senators have already voted, just 33 less than senate's record...

by **Britanno** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:19 am

Great Nepal wrote:We have 80 hours? 100 senators have already voted, just 33 less than senate's record...

It goes on for 4 days (96 hours) in total, and that's just the first round.

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