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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:40 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Battlion wrote:Except they have just confirmed to me that they support these taxes and they support this bill.

Stop lying. We don't support either as a coalition.

Yanalia wrote:
Battlion wrote:

Finally we have the views of the Progress Coalition on the taxes and a new bill in the Senate lobby whilst with the best of intentions fundamentally interferes with the rights of all citizens for freedom of speech and freedom of expression as guaranteed by a democratic state.

They admit it is the view of single members, yet they refuse to either support or reject them. Except they have just confirmed to me that they support these taxes and they support this bill.

We can't let this stand...


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Guys, don't you have your own thread? I feel like if you were members of this coalition. Lol :lol:
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Postby Threlizdun » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:40 pm

Battlion wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Stop lying. We don't support either as a coalition.


Ainin wrote:We do not oppose either this policy or the proposed taxes as an organization.


Right, so who do I believe?

And I advise you to withdraw that accusation

You are well aware that there is a great difference between simply not opposing something and supporting somerthing right? We have no official policy on the issue as an organization.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:41 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Battlion wrote:


Right, so who do I believe?

And I advise you to withdraw that accusation

You are well aware that there is a great difference between simply not opposing something and supporting somerthing right? We have no official policy on the issue as an organization.

Not being against those rediculous taxes is pretty bad in of itself
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:41 pm

Battlion wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Stop lying. We don't support either as a coalition.


Ainin wrote:We do not oppose either this policy or the proposed taxes as an organization.


Right, so who do I believe?

And I advise you to withdraw that accusation

Ainin is saying we do not oppose, not that we support. There is something called neutrality here.
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Postby Battlion » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:41 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Battlion wrote:


Right, so who do I believe?

And I advise you to withdraw that accusation

You are well aware that there is a great difference between simply not opposing something and supporting somerthing right? We have no official policy on the issue as an organization.


So now you can't make up your minds, well that is better than nothing I guess.

Also Hannover, I agree they like to say we have no right to be there so let's see them do the same :)

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:44 pm

Battlion wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:You are well aware that there is a great difference between simply not opposing something and supporting somerthing right? We have no official policy on the issue as an organization.


So now you can't make up your minds, well that is better than nothing I guess.

Senator, please stop trying to sensationalize things. We have made up our minds: we will be neutral on the issues.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:44 pm

Battlion wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:You are well aware that there is a great difference between simply not opposing something and supporting somerthing right? We have no official policy on the issue as an organization.


So now you can't make up your minds, well that is better than nothing I guess.

Also Hannover, I agree they like to say we have no right to be there so let's see them do the same :)


Right? Not to be offensive or trying to kill debates, but geez. Like I am afraid to even post stuff in the CPP thread, because I feel like there is going to be an argument. Lol
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Postby Battlion » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:46 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Battlion wrote:
So now you can't make up your minds, well that is better than nothing I guess.

Also Hannover, I agree they like to say we have no right to be there so let's see them do the same :)


Right? Not to be offensive or trying to kill debates, but geez. Like I am afraid to even post stuff in the CPP thread, because I feel like there is going to be an argument. Lol


Don't worry, I'm just getting increasingly annoyed with some parties suggesting they can just infringe so many rights on a basic level.

And then proceed to call me naïve for expressing my own opinion on their bill.

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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:50 pm

Battlion wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Right? Not to be offensive or trying to kill debates, but geez. Like I am afraid to even post stuff in the CPP thread, because I feel like there is going to be an argument. Lol


Don't worry, I'm just getting increasingly annoyed with some parties suggesting they can just infringe so many rights on a basic level.

And then proceed to call me naïve for expressing my own opinion on their bill.

If you are working with Ainin prepare to have every little flaw pointed out to you with no offer of how it can be improved. He's quite the arrogant nit picker.
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Postby Battlion » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:52 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Battlion wrote:
Don't worry, I'm just getting increasingly annoyed with some parties suggesting they can just infringe so many rights on a basic level.

And then proceed to call me naïve for expressing my own opinion on their bill.

If you are working with Ainin prepare to have every little flaw pointed out to you with no offer of how it can be improved. He's quite the arrogant nit picker.


Don't worry, I won't forget it.

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Postby Ainin » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:56 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Battlion wrote:
Don't worry, I'm just getting increasingly annoyed with some parties suggesting they can just infringe so many rights on a basic level.

And then proceed to call me naïve for expressing my own opinion on their bill.

If you are working with Ainin prepare to have every little flaw pointed out to you with no offer of how it can be improved. He's quite the arrogant nit picker.

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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:59 pm

Ainin wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:If you are working with Ainin prepare to have every little flaw pointed out to you with no offer of how it can be improved. He's quite the arrogant nit picker.

OOC: Can I sig the last sentence under a "Cult of Personality" section?

OOC: Go right ahead.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:14 pm

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:38 pm

I just realised: We finally have a coalition that unites (virtually) the entire Right.

It's almost like we have influence now.
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Postby Quirina » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:48 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I just realised: We finally have a coalition that unites (virtually) the entire Right.

It's almost like we have influence now.

Hi Pruss! Looong time no chat, eh?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:49 pm

Quirina wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I just realised: We finally have a coalition that unites (virtually) the entire Right.

It's almost like we have influence now.

Hi Pruss! Looong time no chat, eh?

Yeah. Like, a year.

Wow, I've been on NS that long? Where did my life go?

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Postby Finium » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:53 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Quirina wrote:Hi Pruss! Looong time no chat, eh?

Yeah. Like, a year.

Wow, I've been on NS that long? Where did my life go?

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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:24 pm

We are winning by a majority in first round, Hurrya!
Britanno, when we win, can we expect a parties to occur nationwide in celebration of triumph over repressive taxations, on you?
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:45 pm

Britanno wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Just a worrying thing i noticed. Malgrave (far left) has gotten 10% of the vote. While USLP was pretty clear they wernt voting for Yanilla, if they were to change their mines and switch to votes, we would be in an unfortunate situation.


I don't think they will change their minds.

And lose a perfect chance to raise class struggle because of your anti worker politics?
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:48 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Britanno wrote:
I don't think they will change their minds.

And lose a perfect chance to raise class struggle because of your anti worker politics?

We believe our policies to be pro-people of all income or employment status, however you are correct in the remainder. You could not possibly attempt coup against your fellow communists however with right in power, you could certainly try. So, vote for Britanno.
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:50 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
CTALNH wrote:And lose a perfect chance to raise class struggle because of your anti worker politics?

We believe our policies to be pro-people of all income or employment status, however you are correct in the remainder. You could not possibly attempt coup against your fellow communists however with right in power, you could certainly try. So, vote for Britanno.

ooc we are screwed up in the head aren't we...
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:58 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:We believe our policies to be pro-people of all income or employment status, however you are correct in the remainder. You could not possibly attempt coup against your fellow communists however with right in power, you could certainly try. So, vote for Britanno.

ooc we are screwed up in the head aren't we...

OOC: Not necessarily. If coup is the end game, it is best to have someone you can rally all your forces against.
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Postby CTALNH » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:01 am

Great Nepal wrote:
CTALNH wrote:ooc we are screwed up in the head aren't we...

OOC: Not necessarily. If coup is the end game, it is best to have someone you can rally all your forces against.

Yeah thats realpolitik.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby New Sapienta » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:16 am

I just realized that if the USLP does launch a revolution, Hath(Minster for Defense) and I(Junior Minster of Defense, official title is Minister of State for Defense) will be very busy if we are elected.

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Postby CTALNH » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:16 am

New Sapienta wrote:I just realized that if the USLP does launch a revolution, Hath(Minster for Defense) and I(Junior Minster of Defense, official title is Minister of State for Defense) will be very busy if we are elected.
The USLP is not gonna launch anything...
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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