Alliance for Aurentina [NSG Senate]

[Wolfmanne]

Most nations and parties tend to choose moderates as President/PM. Take the US, with examples like Obama and Clinton for the Democrats and Eisenhower and Romney (didn't get elected) for the Republicans. David Cameron of the UK is on the moderate wing of his party as well, as is the Christian Democrat's Chancellor Angela Merkel.

And David Cameron is deeply hated by both the grassroots of his own party and the opposition. I can't really comment on American and German politics.

Cameron actually has a great deal of support. UKIP and backbencher Conservatives just get too much of the spotlight. One could say that the grassroots of Labour hates Miliband for promoting his party as that of 'one nation labour' and screwing over the unions, but that doesn't get much attention other in left-wing newspapers.

[Old Tyrannia]

Well, it looks as if Bleckonia is not going to be confirmed as Prime Minister, meaning that this Coalition will likely collapse in record time.

[Wolfmanne]

Well, it looks as if Bleckonia is not going to be confirmed as Prime Minister, meaning that this Coalition will likely collapse in record time.

There's still a chance of a comeback and what do you mean by collapse? The Lib Dems and Totally Rad are open to the idea of a supply and confidence agreement, so we can still go into government.

[Great Nepal]

I would support Wolf if Bleckonia's nomination fails based solely on ability to do the job, however I would like to ask if he would support ministry of research's budget being set at 10% of national budget, or $150 billion per year, which ever is higher and being ringfenced. While this is not absolute value, I will have to reject alternate candidates if their proposal for science budget is lower than a certain amount, which I am not prepared to reveal.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

We have a budget of 1.5 trilion?
ministry of research's what is their mission?What do they do in order to justify such spending?

[Wolfmanne]

We have a budget of 1.5 trilion?

No, we don't.

[Great Nepal]

We have a budget of 1.5 trilion?

We dont know, thats why I said which ever is higher.

Well, it looks as if Bleckonia is not going to be confirmed as Prime Minister, meaning that this Coalition will likely collapse in record time.

Not at all. Bleckonia's appointment was always a close call, if it fails we can put forward another and more moderate candidate.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Wht does this ministry do in order to justify such an outlay from the goverment?

[Britanno]

I think the NIFP is sort of getting the short end of the stick here personally.

If it ever got to the chamber, I would vote for a NIFP PM. However, we won't be able to tether the support of enough people in the confidence vote. If the ProgCoa won't accept Bleckonia, do you really think they would accept a NIFP PM? I'm not saying a NIFP PM would do a bad job, I'm saying that they will never pass the vote of confidence.

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Important Notice

If Bleckonia fails to pass the vote of confidence, I want to propose another one straight away. Therefore, all people who wish me to nominate them for the role in the chamber must telegram me saying so within the next 24 hours. After that, we will vote on who we wish for me to propose in the chamber.

[The Zeonic States]

I would support Wolf if Bleckonia's nomination fails based solely on ability to do the job, however I would like to ask if he would support ministry of research's budget being set at 10% of national budget, or $150 billion per year, which ever is higher and being ringfenced. While this is not absolute value, I will have to reject alternate candidates if their proposal for science budget is lower than a certain amount, which I am not prepared to reveal.

I would agrue that the Defense Budget would need to be set at around 10% myself.

We are sort of building from scratch here, have to donate land or purchase land, build infastucture, Purchase equipment and such.

Me and Hath and a few other Party Members have tinkered a Military Enlargement and Expense measure prior to the election.

[Old Tyrannia]

Well, it looks as if Bleckonia is not going to be confirmed as Prime Minister, meaning that this Coalition will likely collapse in record time.

There's still a chance of a comeback and what do you mean by collapse? The Lib Dems and Totally Rad are open to the idea of a supply and confidence agreement, so we can still go into government.

If Bleck fails to be confirmed as Prime Minister, we'll be faced with trying to choose another candidate. This will likely tear the AfA apart if we are unable to reach an agreement. I'll say now that I for one will never support you being appointed Prime Minister, and will do everything in my power to make the rest of my party oppose it as well. I don't think the NIFP will support you, either.

At best, you'll lose the Stalhelm parties and the Lib Dems and Totally Rad will fill the gap, resulting in a lurch to the left.

[Britanno]

Well, it looks as if Bleckonia is not going to be confirmed as Prime Minister, meaning that this Coalition will likely collapse in record time.

Then I nominate another candidate in the chamber and I continue to do that until we get it passed.

[Great Nepal]

Wht does this ministry do in order to justify such an outlay from the goverment?

Ministry of research and science will be funding research into all kind of technology, including ones needed to protect the environment, reduce climate rate, produce energy efficiently, new defence technology, new entertainment systems, space programs among other many things. As such, ministry has massive reach across the board thus requires high level of funding.

I would support Wolf if Bleckonia's nomination fails based solely on ability to do the job, however I would like to ask if he would support ministry of research's budget being set at 10% of national budget, or $150 billion per year, which ever is higher and being ringfenced. While this is not absolute value, I will have to reject alternate candidates if their proposal for science budget is lower than a certain amount, which I am not prepared to reveal.

I would agrue that the Defense Budget would need to be set at around 10% myself.

We are sort of building from scratch here, have to donate land or purchase land, build infastucture, Purchase equipment and such.

Me and Hath and a few other Party Members have tinkered a Military Enlargement and Expense measure prior to the election.

Defence ministry can work closely with ministry of research and science, since I am certain military does require new and better weapons for its operations?

[The Zeonic States]

There's still a chance of a comeback and what do you mean by collapse? The Lib Dems and Totally Rad are open to the idea of a supply and confidence agreement, so we can still go into government.

If Bleck fails to be confirmed as Prime Minister, we'll be faced with trying to choose another candidate. This will likely tear the AfA apart if we are unable to reach an agreement. I'll say now that I for one will never support you being appointed Prime Minister, and will do everything in my power to make the rest of my party oppose it as well. I don't think the NIFP will support you, either.

At best, you'll lose the Stalhelm parties and the Lib Dems and Totally Rad will fill the gap, resulting in a lurch to the left.

I cannot speak for the NIFP but my support would large depend upon how recieving the new PM would be to NIFP defensive and Energy Related Measures.

After all what is the purpose of acheiving Ministry seating if the measures will never meet with the support of the ruling Party and Alliance.

[United Soviet Jason Republic]

There's still a chance of a comeback and what do you mean by collapse? The Lib Dems and Totally Rad are open to the idea of a supply and confidence agreement, so we can still go into government.

If Bleck fails to be confirmed as Prime Minister, we'll be faced with trying to choose another candidate. This will likely tear the AfA apart if we are unable to reach an agreement. I'll say now that I for one will never support you being appointed Prime Minister, and will do everything in my power to make the rest of my party oppose it as well. I don't think the NIFP will support you, either.

At best, you'll lose the Stalhelm parties and the Lib Dems and Totally Rad will fill the gap, resulting in a lurch to the left.

SShhhh you have to be optimistic! If you don't like him then nominate someone else or run your self i guess. We can't just throw up our hands and give in. We have to keep together. And if you don't want to vote the way the AFA that is your decision, but don't bring down the coalition.

[The Zeonic States]

Wht does this ministry do in order to justify such an outlay from the goverment?

Ministry of research and science will be funding research into all kind of technology, including ones needed to protect the environment, reduce climate rate, produce energy efficiently, new defence technology, new entertainment systems, space programs among other many things. As such, ministry has massive reach across the board thus requires high level of funding.

I would agrue that the Defense Budget would need to be set at around 10% myself.

We are sort of building from scratch here, have to donate land or purchase land, build infastucture, Purchase equipment and such.

Me and Hath and a few other Party Members have tinkered a Military Enlargement and Expense measure prior to the election.

Defence ministry can work closely with ministry of research and science, since I am certain military does require new and better weapons for its operations?

It likely will but we still need to get it off it's Feet and actually declare Territory for it to inhabit, authorize construction of bases and such, Adopt standing arms for its branches. Once the Basics are covered and the Military Limitation on Numbers is repeled then Yes i suppose we would need to work in concert with each other to acheive a range of more powerful defensive and offensive measures to secure the Nation and it's territory.

It's a daunting list of taskes there is a reason it has yet to be done.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Hmm i would have to argue that certain resurch in particular weapons research is beter conducted by individual companies rather then the ministry.
As for the army i agree with it.
Also i would like to offer the newest Leopard 2A6 tanks produced by Kraus Mafei Wegman as the MBT of choise for the country.

[Wolfmanne]

Hmm i would have to argue that certain resurch in particular weapons research is beter conducted by individual companies rather then the ministry.
As for the army i agree with it.
Also i would like to offer the newest Leopard 2A6 tanks produced by Kraus Mafei Wegman as the MBT of choise for the country.

We decided on the Challenger II already.

[Great Nepal]

Ministry of research and science will be funding research into all kind of technology, including ones needed to protect the environment, reduce climate rate, produce energy efficiently, new defence technology, new entertainment systems, space programs among other many things. As such, ministry has massive reach across the board thus requires high level of funding.


Defence ministry can work closely with ministry of research and science, since I am certain military does require new and better weapons for its operations?

It likely will but we still need to get it off it's Feet and actually declare Territory for it to inhabit, authorize construction of bases and such, Adopt standing arms for its branches. Once the Basics are covered and the Military Limitation on Numbers is repeled then Yes i suppose we would need to work in concert with each other to acheive a range of more powerful defensive and offensive measures to secure the Nation and it's territory.

It's a daunting list of taskes there is a reason it has yet to be done.

Of course, of course and while we have our differences regarding the numbers of personnels, having high level of investment into research would benefit every sector including the military, so I would assume you would support my purposed budget for ministry of research and science?

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

As you wish.I stand on my opinion that the Leopard 2A6 is superior to the Challenger II but it is the choise of the army.
There goes around 1 bilion in revenue...

[Wolfmanne]

It likely will but we still need to get it off it's Feet and actually declare Territory for it to inhabit, authorize construction of bases and such, Adopt standing arms for its branches. Once the Basics are covered and the Military Limitation on Numbers is repeled then Yes i suppose we would need to work in concert with each other to acheive a range of more powerful defensive and offensive measures to secure the Nation and it's territory.

It's a daunting list of taskes there is a reason it has yet to be done.

Of course, of course and while we have our differences regarding the numbers of personnels, having high level of investment into research would benefit every sector including the military, so I would assume you would support my purposed budget for ministry of research and science?

2% is enough in my opinion.

[Old Tyrannia]

Hmm i would have to argue that certain resurch in particular weapons research is beter conducted by individual companies rather then the ministry.
As for the army i agree with it.
Also i would like to offer the newest Leopard 2A6 tanks produced by Kraus Mafei Wegman as the MBT of choise for the country.

We decided on the Challenger II already.

For once I am in full agreement.

[Kouralia]

We decided on the Challenger II already.

For once I am in full agreement.

Needs more Centurion.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

For once I am in full agreement.

Needs more Centurion.

Unless you plan to manufacture new gen Centurion that is one VERY OLD MBT

[The Zeonic States]

As you wish.I stand on my opinion that the Leopard 2A6 is superior to the Challenger II but it is the choise of the army.
There goes around 1 bilion in revenue...

Tell me about it.

That said with the Vast amounts of rewrites the NIFP has proposed for the Ministry of Defense who knows ultimately what the decided upon MBT will ultimately be.

Of course, of course and while we have our differences regarding the numbers of personnels, having high level of investment into research would benefit every sector including the military, so I would assume you would support my purposed budget for ministry of research and science?

2% is enough in my opinion.

10%

We are building from scratch, Bases, Airstrips, Dry and Wet Docks, Munition Plants, Weapon Assembly Plants unless if we are importing enough to cover the entirity of the Military which in my opinion may be the cheaper of the two but leaves us reliant upon foreign arms.

We also need to start construction of both the Naval and Coastal Fleet which isn't going to be cheap at all.