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Wolfmanne
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:28 am

I'd advise that members of the coalition vote Bleckonia, for now anyway.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:36 am

Bleck is preferable to Stalinist's taking power don't get me wrong but i just cannot view them as being an effective Prime Minister.

But if this is the original agreement?

I wouldn't expect as much NIFP voter turn out but fine.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:36 am

If Bleck's appointment doesn't reach enough support from the senate, then arrangement should be reached with him so as to ensure senator himself forfeits the position as PM with possible compensation, another ministry perhaps, thus allowing appointment of another senator into the position (Wolf sounds good).
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:38 am

Great Nepal wrote:If Bleck's appointment doesn't reach enough support from the senate, then arrangement should be reached with him so as to ensure senator himself forfeits the position as PM with possible compensation, another ministry perhaps, thus allowing appointment of another senator into the position (Wolf sounds good).

The non-socialistic side of the Progress Coalition seem pretty open to me becoming PM. However, I shall continue to endorse Bleckonia and I recommend any 'Wolfmannists' do the same.
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Postby Gallup » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:48 am

Things I disagree with in our platform:
Wolfmanne wrote:
Alliance for Aurentina Platform


Law & Order:
The Law Enforcement agencies of our nation deserve best tools we can give them while not infringing on the rights of our citizens. We need to crack down on the Mafia, they currently operate outside the law and must be stopped before a truly safe Aurentina can be found. The Prosecutors of our nation need to be given all the might of the Ministry of Justice so that they may institute fair proceedings and punishments on a individual case basis.

National Security:
The military of needs to be one of the best in the world, the state of the military is archaic. They need new planes, new ships, new guns and most importantly a Veterans Affairs Ministry, one to guarantee that the veterans of the Aurentine Military do not get left on the streets for defending the nation and are provided medical care. The military shall be used to defend this nation for imminent threats to her safety. We do not seek a militarized Aurentina.

Social Issues:
The Conservative Coalition is for a Secular State and a nation of All religions. We support LGBT rights and split maternity leave where the parents may choose who stays home and for how long.

Economy:
We support free trade in the World Markets and very little regulation except to prevent abuse of the Financial Systems of Aurentina and monopolies. The Alliance for Aurentina advocates Big Bang financial policy and seeks more Free Trade Agreements with nations of the world. We seek to create strong competition in all markets to give the consumer the best choices possible. The minimum wage should be set by the Labor Unions.

Social Security:
The Alliance for Aurentina supports social security for those down on their luck plus the elderly and the disabled. However those on unemployment should not be allowed to live on it, a maximum time of four months should be imposed but may be extended if the benefactor is attending job retraining or on a internship with a possibility of employment. We also support workfare for Aurentina with a lottery based system were companies wishing to participate are given a number so that there is no guarantee for free labor.

Taxation
Taxes are a necessary evil in the societies of the world that allow you drive on roads, stay safe, live free, be healthy, and participate in democracy. However taxes should only be for those things, safety, transportation, welfare, and defense. Everything is overreaching by the government and infringing on your freedoms. However we do support taxation as define in the National Taxation Act. We believe that Capital Gains Tax should be cut back by 5%.

Education
The Aurentine Education System should be one of the best in the world, we should be in the top in reading, history, math, and science. Aurentina should be the model for the world to follow and our kids should be the reward of the system, bright kids creating a brighter future. Support is also lent to religious schools through a Church Tax of 2% which is voluntary and agreed upon by the Religious Institution, it only taxes those in the Religious Institution. The tax may only be collected by the Institution itself, but it has legal protection.

Healthcare:
Healthcare costs need to be low and kept low so that even the poorest of us can get the best medical attention. We need to have a large interconnected system of public hospitals and urgent care facilities so keep a healthy populace.

Environment:
The environment needs protecting, cap and trade and clean energy for the nation. We also support nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. The adaption of European Emission standards for 2050 is also sought.

Transport:
We need a quality public transportation system of trains and rails, one that can support itself without being a strain on the taxpayers and the environment.

Research:
The Alliance for Aurentina believes in research and science to develop future we dream and long for. Research must be supported by the Aurentine government so that Aurentina does not fall behind on the world stage. Tax breaks for Nuclear and Biomass companies are also supported.

Foreign Policy:
As stated in the economics section we seek Free Trade Agreements with the nations of the world. We seek to join the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The AA seeks to establish a Swizterland-like relation with the EU.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:50 am

It's outdated.
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Postby Britanno » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:56 am

Can I propose that we remove the platform from the OP until we update it. Having an outdated platform isn't a great idea.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:57 am

Alliance for Aurentina Platform


Law & Order:
The Law Enforcement agencies of our nation deserve best tools we can give them while not infringing on the rights of our citizens. We need to crack down on the Mafia, they currently operate outside the law and must be stopped before a truly safe Aurentina can be found. The Prosecutors of our nation need to be given all the might of the Ministry of Justice so that they may institute fair proceedings and punishments on a individual case basis.

National Security:
The military of needs to be one of the best in the world, the state of the military is archaic. They need new planes, new ships, new guns and most importantly a Veterans Affairs Ministry, one to guarantee that the veterans of the Aurentine Military do not get left on the streets for defending the nation and are provided medical care. The military shall be used to defend this nation for imminent threats to her safety. We do not seek a militarized Aurentina.

Social Issues:
The Conservative Coalition is for a Secular State and a nation of All religions. We support LGBT rights and split maternity leave where the parents may choose who stays home and for how long.

Economy:
We support free trade in the World Markets and very little regulation except to prevent abuse of the Financial Systems of Aurentina and monopolies. The Alliance for Aurentina advocates Big Bang financial policy and seeks more Free Trade Agreements with nations of the world. We seek to create strong competition in all markets to give the consumer the best choices possible. The minimum wage should be set by the Labor Unions.

Social Security:
The Alliance for Aurentina supports social security for those down on their luck plus the elderly and the disabled. However those on unemployment should not be allowed to live on it, a maximum time of four months should be imposed but may be extended if the benefactor is attending job retraining or on a internship with a possibility of employment. We also support workfare for Aurentina with a lottery based system were companies wishing to participate are given a number so that there is no guarantee for free labor.

Taxation
Taxes are a necessary evil in the societies of the world that allow you drive on roads, stay safe, live free, be healthy, and participate in democracy. However taxes should only be for those things, safety, transportation, welfare, and defense. Everything is overreaching by the government and infringing on your freedoms. However we do support taxation as define in the National Taxation Act. We believe that Capital Gains Tax should be cut back by 5%.

Education
The Aurentine Education System should be one of the best in the world, we should be in the top in reading, history, math, and science. Aurentina should be the model for the world to follow and our kids should be the reward of the system, bright kids creating a brighter future. Support is also lent to religious schools through a Church Tax of 2% which is voluntary and agreed upon by the Religious Institution, it only taxes those in the Religious Institution. The tax may only be collected by the Institution itself, but it has legal protection.

Healthcare:
Healthcare costs need to be low and kept low so that even the poorest of us can get the best medical attention. We need to have a large interconnected system of public hospitals and urgent care facilities so keep a healthy populace.

Environment:
The environment needs protecting, cap and trade and clean energy for the nation. We also support nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. The adaption of European Emission standards for 2050 is also sought.

Transport:
We need a quality public transportation system of trains and rails, one that can support itself without being a strain on the taxpayers and the environment.

Research:
The Alliance for Aurentina believes in research and science to develop future we dream and long for. Research must be supported by the Aurentine government so that Aurentina does not fall behind on the world stage. Tax breaks for Nuclear and Biomass companies are also supported.

Foreign Policy:
As stated in the economics section we seek Free Trade Agreements with the nations of the world. We seek to join the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The AA seeks to establish a Swizterland-like relation with the EU.

Platform removed, archived here per Britanno's request.
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Postby Gallup » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:59 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Alliance for Aurentina Platform


Law & Order:
The Law Enforcement agencies of our nation deserve best tools we can give them while not infringing on the rights of our citizens. We need to crack down on the Mafia, they currently operate outside the law and must be stopped before a truly safe Aurentina can be found. The Prosecutors of our nation need to be given all the might of the Ministry of Justice so that they may institute fair proceedings and punishments on a individual case basis.

National Security:
The military of needs to be one of the best in the world, the state of the military is archaic. They need new planes, new ships, new guns and most importantly a Veterans Affairs Ministry, one to guarantee that the veterans of the Aurentine Military do not get left on the streets for defending the nation and are provided medical care. The military shall be used to defend this nation for imminent threats to her safety. We do not seek a militarized Aurentina.

Social Issues:
The Conservative Coalition is for a Secular State and a nation of All religions. We support LGBT rights and split maternity leave where the parents may choose who stays home and for how long.

Economy:
We support free trade in the World Markets and very little regulation except to prevent abuse of the Financial Systems of Aurentina and monopolies. The Alliance for Aurentina advocates Big Bang financial policy and seeks more Free Trade Agreements with nations of the world. We seek to create strong competition in all markets to give the consumer the best choices possible. The minimum wage should be set by the Labor Unions.

Social Security:
The Alliance for Aurentina supports social security for those down on their luck plus the elderly and the disabled. However those on unemployment should not be allowed to live on it, a maximum time of four months should be imposed but may be extended if the benefactor is attending job retraining or on a internship with a possibility of employment. We also support workfare for Aurentina with a lottery based system were companies wishing to participate are given a number so that there is no guarantee for free labor.

Taxation
Taxes are a necessary evil in the societies of the world that allow you drive on roads, stay safe, live free, be healthy, and participate in democracy. However taxes should only be for those things, safety, transportation, welfare, and defense. Everything is overreaching by the government and infringing on your freedoms. However we do support taxation as define in the National Taxation Act. We believe that Capital Gains Tax should be cut back by 5%.

Education
The Aurentine Education System should be one of the best in the world, we should be in the top in reading, history, math, and science. Aurentina should be the model for the world to follow and our kids should be the reward of the system, bright kids creating a brighter future. Support is also lent to religious schools through a Church Tax of 2% which is voluntary and agreed upon by the Religious Institution, it only taxes those in the Religious Institution. The tax may only be collected by the Institution itself, but it has legal protection.

Healthcare:
Healthcare costs need to be low and kept low so that even the poorest of us can get the best medical attention. We need to have a large interconnected system of public hospitals and urgent care facilities so keep a healthy populace.

Environment:
The environment needs protecting, cap and trade and clean energy for the nation. We also support nuclear power as well as hydroelectricity. The adaption of European Emission standards for 2050 is also sought.

Transport:
We need a quality public transportation system of trains and rails, one that can support itself without being a strain on the taxpayers and the environment.

Research:
The Alliance for Aurentina believes in research and science to develop future we dream and long for. Research must be supported by the Aurentine government so that Aurentina does not fall behind on the world stage. Tax breaks for Nuclear and Biomass companies are also supported.

Foreign Policy:
As stated in the economics section we seek Free Trade Agreements with the nations of the world. We seek to join the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The AA seeks to establish a Swizterland-like relation with the EU.

Platform removed, archived here per Britanno's request.

What about my ideas for changes?
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:01 am

Gallup wrote:What about my ideas for changes?

I agree with all of your proposed changes except environment.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 am

If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.
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Postby Britanno » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 am

Wolfmanne wrote:Platform removed, archived here per Britanno's request.


Thanks.

Gallup wrote:What about my ideas for changes?


Well that is not the actual platform you made changes to, so I can't really support the changes because most of the rest is outdated. I will try to spend some time recreating the platform.
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Postby Gallup » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Gallup wrote:What about my ideas for changes?

I agree with all of your proposed changes except environment.

All I oppose is Cap-and-Trade.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:03 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Gallup wrote:What about my ideas for changes?

I agree with all of your proposed changes except environment.

In fact, so do I.
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Postby Britanno » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:04 am

The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.


I will hold a vote, but I would personally prefer Wolf to take on the role. He was an excellent president, and has the support of many in the ProgCoa meaning that we will be able to get a PM in straight away. I'm sure Hath would be a good PM, but I don't think he would gain the confidence of the senate.
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Postby Gallup » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:04 am

Britanno wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Platform removed, archived here per Britanno's request.


Thanks.

Gallup wrote:What about my ideas for changes?


Well that is not the actual platform you made changes to, so I can't really support the changes because most of the rest is outdated. I will try to spend some time recreating the platform.

When you are recreating it try to take my ideas into account.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:04 am

Diopolis wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I agree with all of your proposed changes except environment.

In fact, so do I.

Here's to aristocratic environmentalists.
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Postby Britanno » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:04 am

When I redo the platform, you guys can propose changes.
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Postby Gallup » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:05 am

The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.

Hath or you would be great.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:06 am

The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.

Is that 20 votes NIFP only, or NIFP and CMP?

By my count, the CMP contributed 10 13 votes.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:07 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.

Is that 20 votes NIFP only, or NIFP and CMP?

By my count, the CMP contributed 10 votes.

However, moderates are always preferential because you also have to work with the opposition. That's why the Leader of the Opposition is a Lib Dem (proposed).
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:10 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Is that 20 votes NIFP only, or NIFP and CMP?

By my count, the CMP contributed 10 votes.

However, moderates are always preferential because you also have to work with the opposition. That's why the Leader of the Opposition is a Lib Dem (proposed).

I think I speak for all when I say the Stalhelm Alliance puts little trust in the moderates.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:11 am

Britanno wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.


I will hold a vote, but I would personally prefer Wolf to take on the role. He was an excellent president, and has the support of many in the ProgCoa meaning that we will be able to get a PM in straight away. I'm sure Hath would be a good PM, but I don't think he would gain the confidence of the senate.


Considering who his Predessor was, he could merely open the door and show up and be better then Aeken.

And Confidence of the Senate? merely because of his Political Leaning?

I think the NIFP is sort of getting the short end of the stick here personally.

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.

Is that 20 votes NIFP only, or NIFP and CMP?

By my count, the CMP contributed 10 votes.


It was 19 votes solely via NIFP if my count is correct.

Gallup wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:If Bleck does not work out i wouldn't oppose a Nomination to any of the NIFP to PM if the space needs filling.

Hath if he was more present likely would make an excellent PM.

Given we contributed nearly twenty votes to the victory including the final two it would be a good way to repay the The Stahlhelm Alliance and the NIFP.

Hath or you would be great.


Thank you.

Still i would have to defer to the chairman given he is my Party Superior but i would like to think he would be a good elected Official.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:13 am

Most nations and parties tend to choose moderates as President/PM. Take the US, with examples like Obama and Clinton for the Democrats and Eisenhower and Romney (didn't get elected) for the Republicans. David Cameron of the UK is on the moderate wing of his party as well, as is the Christian Democrat's Chancellor Angela Merkel.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:15 am

Wolfmanne wrote:Most nations and parties tend to choose moderates as President/PM. Take the US, with examples like Obama and Clinton for the Democrats and Eisenhower and Romney (didn't get elected) for the Republicans. David Cameron of the UK is on the moderate wing of his party as well, as is the Christian Democrat's Chancellor Angela Merkel.

And David Cameron is deeply hated by both the grassroots of his own party and the opposition. I can't really comment on American and German politics.
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