What ministry would the CMP abandon to get environment.
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by Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:56 am

by Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:59 am
Angleter wrote:I believe we should support Bleck for PM, but I understand some of where Britanno is coming from - Bleck is probably going to be more of a stretch to get approved by the Senate now he's gone from NCP to CFE.

by Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:02 am

by Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:07 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Of the Quendi wrote:What ministry would the CMP abandon to get environment.
None. It isn't in the CMP's interest to swap any of the ministries we currently have for Environment. However, I believe I would be a good choice to fulfill the position now that it is vacant, so I am putting myself forward for the President's consideration.

by Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:11 am
Of the Quendi wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:None. It isn't in the CMP's interest to swap any of the ministries we currently have for Environment. However, I believe I would be a good choice to fulfill the position now that it is vacant, so I am putting myself forward for the President's consideration.
The PM's consideration.
Well i cannot support that the CMP gets another ministry. The party which nominated the previous candidate should be given a chance to appoint a new one.

by Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:13 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Of the Quendi wrote:The PM's consideration.
Well i cannot support that the CMP gets another ministry. The party which nominated the previous candidate should be given a chance to appoint a new one.
Thank you for correcting me.
I do not expect your support, Senator. I believe that the LFP and the CMP have the most antagonistic relationship of any parties in the Alliance, and your views on the environment are completely different to mine.

by Angleter » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:16 am

by Battlion » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:17 am

by Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:17 am
Angleter wrote:Having lost the Prime Minister's Office, the NCP should, I think, get to hold onto Environment.

by Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:28 am
Of the Quendi wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:Thank you for correcting me.
I do not expect your support, Senator. I believe that the LFP and the CMP have the most antagonistic relationship of any parties in the Alliance, and your views on the environment are completely different to mine.
What are your views on environment? Surely not to do nothing about climats change?
Libertarians acknowledge protection of the environment as a worthy goal, but we believe that the environmental movement has gone too far.
We are uncompromisingly opposed to any "cap and trade" program.
We support a removal of the various environmental obstacles to new development that have slowed growth in recent years;
we are especially opposed to the "environmental impact reports" that can often drag out new development projects for years or even decades.
We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that some parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.

by Hathradic States » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:34 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Of the Quendi wrote:What are your views on environment? Surely not to do nothing about climats change?
Where the hell did you get that idea? I thought it would be common knowledge by now that I'm a rabid environmentalist.
My response to the LFP's environmental policies, as laid out in your manifesto:Libertarians acknowledge protection of the environment as a worthy goal, but we believe that the environmental movement has gone too far.
Hardly. It hasn't gone far enough.We are uncompromisingly opposed to any "cap and trade" program.
I am unflinchingly in favour of it.We support a removal of the various environmental obstacles to new development that have slowed growth in recent years;
I think there should be more barriers to development that encroaches on the countryside and natural environment.we are especially opposed to the "environmental impact reports" that can often drag out new development projects for years or even decades.
While I fully support them.We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that some parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.
I am against the privatization of national parks and believe they should be expanded and given more government funds.
You also state that you support the continued use of fossil fuels and a gradual phasing out, whereas I believe we must take drastic action to curb our fossil fuel usage and switch to renewable and nuclear energy as soon as possible.

by Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:44 am
Well I also thought it Odd. But the LFP policy (one I partially disagree with) isn't to do nothing. We just want to focus on developing viable alternatives to fossil fuels rather than impose restrictions on consumption.Old Tyrannia wrote:Of the Quendi wrote:What are your views on environment? Surely not to do nothing about climats change?
Where the hell did you get that idea? I thought it would be common knowledge by now that I'm a rabid environmentalist.
My response to the LFP's environmental policies, as laid out in your manifesto:Libertarians acknowledge protection of the environment as a worthy goal, but we believe that the environmental movement has gone too far.
Hardly. It hasn't gone far enough.We are uncompromisingly opposed to any "cap and trade" program.
I am unflinchingly in favour of it.We support a removal of the various environmental obstacles to new development that have slowed growth in recent years;
I think there should be more barriers to development that encroaches on the countryside and natural environment.we are especially opposed to the "environmental impact reports" that can often drag out new development projects for years or even decades.
While I fully support them.We support the continued existence of a national park system, but believe that some parks should privatized through sale of parklands to private owners who pledge to sustainably use the land.
I am against the privatization of national parks and believe they should be expanded and given more government funds.
You also state that you support the continued use of fossil fuels and a gradual phasing out, whereas I believe we must take drastic action to curb our fossil fuel usage and switch to renewable and nuclear energy as soon as possible.

by Jetan » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:43 am

by The Realm of God » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:59 am

by United Soviet Jason Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:18 am
The Realm of God wrote:Look we are all ladies and gentlemen here, how about we simply decide to honour our arrangements. Lest we disintegrate in petty infighting and force Aurentina into anouther period of anarchy.

by Jetan » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:21 am
United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:The Realm of God wrote:Look we are all ladies and gentlemen here, how about we simply decide to honour our arrangements. Lest we disintegrate in petty infighting and force Aurentina into anouther period of anarchy.
Yes, lets not go down fighting after a major victory. We shouldn't squabble about the small things. I am not meaning to call the environment a small thing, it is very important to me, the good thing about this coalition is that we can all sit down and if we have to, discuss our policies and compromise. We don't like everything, but that isn't a reason to drop everything and walk out of something we all worked on to get going. This goes to everyone really. We have made a great effort to reach across party lines and we shouldn't leave it to ruin.

by The Realm of God » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:23 am
Jetan wrote:United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:
Yes, lets not go down fighting after a major victory. We shouldn't squabble about the small things. I am not meaning to call the environment a small thing, it is very important to me, the good thing about this coalition is that we can all sit down and if we have to, discuss our policies and compromise. We don't like everything, but that isn't a reason to drop everything and walk out of something we all worked on to get going. This goes to everyone really. We have made a great effort to reach across party lines and we shouldn't leave it to ruin.
Sure we can be civil about this. But seeing as NCP has already gone from PM + 2 ministries + 1 junior minister to 1 ministry + 1 junior minister we will not go to 1 junior minister.

by Maryginia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:43 am

by Maryginia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:56 am
Battlion wrote:why don't we just let bleck's old party retain the PM'ship?

by Maryginia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:10 am
Battlion wrote:If we won this election with a huge majority I'd say steam ahead, but we didn't we need to mindful and work with the opposition.

by The Realm of God » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:10 am
Battlion wrote:If we won this election with a huge majority I'd say steam ahead, but we didn't we need to mindful and work with the opposition.

by Battlion » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:13 am
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