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Postby New Sapienta » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:56 pm

Britanno wrote:People, I don't think you understand:

Bleckonia would not make a good PM. I have seen very little of him and he has done next to nothing to help this coalition. I don't trust him, and he would never get elected. If I tried to appoint him, the entire Porgress Coalition would vote against it along with me. Yes, some may see it as betrayal, but it is necessary. For the sake of Aurentina, Wolf will be my ideal Prime Minister.

You will shatter the AfA by doing. You will drive Bleckonia and his party away, while showing to every party you are willing to go back on your promises. If Blekconia is a bad PM, then he can be removed from office, but you have not even given him a chance.

Don't do this.

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Postby Britanno » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:56 pm

I'm going to work now, but remember this. When Geilinor didn't get appointed because of opposition from those not included in the coalition, we lost. We cannot afford that again.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:56 pm

Britanno wrote:People, I don't think you understand:

Bleckonia would not make a good PM. I have seen very little of him and he has done next to nothing to help this coalition. I don't trust him, and he would never get elected. If I tried to appoint him, the entire Porgress Coalition would vote against it along with me. Yes, some may see it as betrayal, but it is necessary. For the sake of Aurentina, Wolf will be my ideal Prime Minister.

Irrelevant.
If you didn't think he makes good PM, you should have made that clear pre-elections. You can not walts in here and break coalition agreement in willy nilly. If there is vote to appoint anyone but Bleckonia as PM, unless it is with his consent, I will vote against it and urge all of CFE to do likewise.
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Postby Kalmath » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:57 pm

I would remind you all that Wolfmanne is one of the founders of the AfA and has no need to cooperate on the level that you accuse him of. Also Britanno can keep Wolf in check, not that this is needed, and so will his fellow ministers.
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Postby New Sapienta » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:57 pm

Britanno wrote:I'm going to work now, but remember this. When Geilinor didn't get appointed because of opposition from those not included in the coalition, we lost. We cannot afford that again.

I implore you not to appoint Wolfmanne unless Bleckonia agrees.

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Postby New Sapienta » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:57 pm

Kalmath wrote:I would remind you all that Wolfmanne is one of the founders of the AfA and has no need to cooperate on the level that you accuse him of. Also Britanno can keep Wolf in check, not that this is needed, and so will his fellow ministers.

We are not saying Wolfe would be a bad PM, but Bleckonia was promised the position so he should get it.

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Postby Britanno » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 pm

However, I am prepared to do this democratically.

I know I have the backing of some on this, but not all. A vote begins now between Wolf and Bleck. If you decide, Bleck, then I'll go with you, just reluctantly. To start off, I voteWolf.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 pm

Kalmath wrote:I would remind you all that Wolfmanne is one of the founders of the AfA and has no need to cooperate on the level that you accuse him of. Also Britanno can keep Wolf in check, not that this is needed, and so will his fellow ministers.

Irrelevant. Bleckonia was promised PM and Bleckonia must get PM.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 pm

Britanno wrote:However, I am prepared to do this democratically.

I know I have the backing of some on this, but not all. A vote begins now between Wolf and Bleck. If you decide, Bleck, then I'll go with you, just reluctantly. To start off, I voteWolf.

I vote Bleckonia.
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Postby New Sapienta » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:58 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Britanno wrote:However, I am prepared to do this democratically.

I know I have the backing of some on this, but not all. A vote begins now between Wolf and Bleck. If you decide, Bleck, then I'll go with you, just reluctantly. To start off, I voteWolf.

I vote Bleckonia.

I vote for Bleckonia as well.

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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:02 am

Britanno wrote:People, I don't think you understand:

Bleckonia would not make a good PM. I have seen very little of him and he has done next to nothing to help this coalition. I don't trust him, and he would never get elected. If I tried to appoint him, the entire Porgress Coalition would vote against it along with me. Yes, some may see it as betrayal, but it is necessary. For the sake of Aurentina, Wolf will be my ideal Prime Minister.

You made your word, Mr. President. Don't start of your long career by backing out of your word. If you do, you will make it look like I was the better choice for the right.


I vote Bleck.

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Postby New Sapienta » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:04 am

I would, again, also like to remind Britanno that I am Junior Minister of Defense in the cabinet. Write it down as Minister of State for Defense.

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Postby Jetan » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:12 am

I vote Bleckonia. Not appointing him would be the very definition of political betrayal.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:22 am

I vote Bleckonia.

Also, Distruzio, rather than Diopolis, will be serving as Minister of Education.
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Postby Grand Longueville » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:52 am

I vote Bleckonia.

Brit, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:54 am

Britanno wrote:However, I am prepared to do this democratically.

I know I have the backing of some on this, but not all. A vote begins now between Wolf and Bleck. If you decide, Bleck, then I'll go with you, just reluctantly. To start off, I voteWolf.

I vote Wolfmanne on the assumption that an agreement is reached with Bleckonia and his party.
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Postby Grand Longueville » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:05 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Britanno wrote:However, I am prepared to do this democratically.

I know I have the backing of some on this, but not all. A vote begins now between Wolf and Bleck. If you decide, Bleck, then I'll go with you, just reluctantly. To start off, I voteWolf.

I vote Wolfmanne on the assumption that an agreement is reached with Bleckonia and his party.


Why would you act on an unverified assumption?
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Postby Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:09 am

Grand Longueville wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:I vote Wolfmanne on the assumption that an agreement is reached with Bleckonia and his party.


Why would you act on an unverified assumption?

Because I want Wolfmanne as PM. Of all possible candidates on both sides of the aisle I consider him the Best qualified. I hardly even know who Bleckonia is much less what he stands for.
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Postby Namor » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:18 am

Now that Britanno's won, I would like to declare that I can't be Minister of Environment, given that I have switched by vote to Yanalia at the last minute, and that I have left a AfA party as well.
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Postby Grand Longueville » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:20 am

Namor wrote:Now that Britanno's won, I would like to declare that I can't be Minister of Environment, given that I have switched by vote to Yanalia at the last minute, and that I have left a AfA party as well.


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Postby Geadland » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:37 am

Bleckonia should be PM solely because that's what we agreed before. If there was any objection to this, then this should have been raised beforehand. Congratulations, Britannno, on your victory.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:38 am

Namor wrote:Now that Britanno's won, I would like to declare that I can't be Minister of Environment, given that I have switched by vote to Yanalia at the last minute, and that I have left a AfA party as well.

I volunteer for the position. The environment is something I feel very strongly about.
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Postby Grand Longueville » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:44 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Namor wrote:Now that Britanno's won, I would like to declare that I can't be Minister of Environment, given that I have switched by vote to Yanalia at the last minute, and that I have left a AfA party as well.

I volunteer for the position. The environment is something I feel very strongly about.


I second this nomination. The Lord Tyrannien would be a fine choice due to his policies on the manner. He is diligent and loyal, to boot.
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:52 am

Grand Longueville wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I volunteer for the position. The environment is something I feel very strongly about.


I second this nomination. The Lord Tyrannien would be a fine choice due to his policies on the manner. He is diligent and loyal, to boot.

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Postby Angleter » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:56 am

I believe we should support Bleck for PM, but I understand some of where Britanno is coming from - Bleck is probably going to be more of a stretch to get approved by the Senate now he's gone from NCP to CFE.
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