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Postby Kalmath » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:58 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:Screenshot perhaps?


Given we have been talking via Telegram that might be an issue.


Screenshot the tele
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:58 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:Screenshot perhaps?


Given we have been talking via Telegram that might be an issue.

Just screenshot TG page...
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Postby Britanno » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:59 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:Given we have been talking via Telegram that might be an issue.


Screenshot the telegram.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:00 pm

Britanno wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:Given we have been talking via Telegram that might be an issue.


Screenshot the telegram.


I can do that i suppose but we still have to wait to see if he agree's to it or not.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:41 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I do.

A motion for a vote on whether we should replace our current logo with that one, retaining the other one as an acceptable alternative.

Motion seconded, and I vote in favor of the new logo as our primary logo.

Its nice, I vote for it.
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I hope this isn't too much of an inconvenience; if you want to appoint another Vice President for while I am gone, I encourage you to do so.
Given how much time is put aside for this election if we get to a second round you will be back long before we have the final result so I don't see the problem.
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It's perfectly fine. Could you allow someone to proxy vote in the elections for you though?

Yes.

I grant Of the Quendi the agency to cast votes on my behalf, starting at 6:45 AM PST tomorrow and ending at the time of my return.
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:53 pm

I want us to win but I very much doubt we are going to.

The last few hours have been an embarrassment for everyone

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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:54 pm

Battlion wrote:I want us to win but I very much doubt we are going to.

The last few hours have been an embarrassment for everyone

I get the embarrasment, btu why the pessimism? Even if USLP were to add their votes to yanila, as long as we get the 2 independent votes we are still in the lead
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Postby Battlion » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:55 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Battlion wrote:I want us to win but I very much doubt we are going to.

The last few hours have been an embarrassment for everyone

I get the embarrasment, btu why the pessimism? Even if USLP were to add their votes to yanila, as long as we get the 2 independent votes we are still in the lead


We'll really see, I go away for a few hours ¬.¬

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Postby The Zeonic States » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:57 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Battlion wrote:I want us to win but I very much doubt we are going to.

The last few hours have been an embarrassment for everyone

I get the embarrasment, btu why the pessimism? Even if USLP were to add their votes to yanila, as long as we get the 2 independent votes we are still in the lead


That Scene in the Voting thread was an Embrassment to every one aligned with this Alliance.

Although i do agree with the Sentiment.

Our Voting regulations should be established by Law and not pulled out Moderation's Ass when a situation occurs.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:58 pm

Battlion wrote:I want us to win but I very much doubt we are going to.

The last few hours have been an embarrassment for everyone


So, the negotiations with the Classical Monarchist Party didn't work officially? :(
Well, I guess that if we loss (you never know, we might win again in the Second round), then it's time to be preparing for the worse. If the right-leaning parties don't win this election, then we should still try to vote similarly, in order to have more chances of blocking the bills that could be harmful to this country.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:00 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Battlion wrote:I want us to win but I very much doubt we are going to.

The last few hours have been an embarrassment for everyone


So, the negotiations with the Classical Monarchist Party didn't work officially? :(
Well, I guess that if we loss (you never know, we might win again in the Second round), then it's time to be preparing for the worse. If the right-leaning parties don't win this election, then we should still try to vote similarly, in order to have more chances of blocking the bills that could be harmful to this country.

Well CMP technically is with us, but their membership is either a bunch of commies themselves or something else, because alot of them seem content with Yanilla winning. Makes no sense whatever that they would, but whatever.
We have a few of their members voting for us though, so thats nice. I personally think we shouldnt give them a ministry though if they cant even muster more then 5 votes for us.
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The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
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I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:01 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
So, the negotiations with the Classical Monarchist Party didn't work officially? :(
Well, I guess that if we loss (you never know, we might win again in the Second round), then it's time to be preparing for the worse. If the right-leaning parties don't win this election, then we should still try to vote similarly, in order to have more chances of blocking the bills that could be harmful to this country.

Well CMP technically is with us, but their membership is either a bunch of commies themselves or something else, because alot of them seem content with Yanilla winning. Makes no sense whatever that they would, but whatever.
We have a few of their members voting for us though, so thats nice. I personally think we shouldnt give them a ministry though if they cant even muster more then 5 votes for us.


Agreed it isn't an Alliance if the majority of the active party isn't voting similarly to the Alliance.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:01 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
So, the negotiations with the Classical Monarchist Party didn't work officially? :(
Well, I guess that if we loss (you never know, we might win again in the Second round), then it's time to be preparing for the worse. If the right-leaning parties don't win this election, then we should still try to vote similarly, in order to have more chances of blocking the bills that could be harmful to this country.

Well CMP technically is with us, but their membership is either a bunch of commies themselves or something else, because alot of them seem content with Yanilla winning. Makes no sense whatever that they would, but whatever.
We have a few of their members voting for us though, so thats nice. I personally think we shouldnt give them a ministry though if they cant even muster more then 5 votes for us.


Really? I thought that party was supposed to be the most Conservative in the country. Wow that's a shame. But it is good to know that at least some of them voted for Britanno
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:01 pm

I've removed them from the OP. I'm confused as to whether they're part of the AfA or not.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:03 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Well CMP technically is with us, but their membership is either a bunch of commies themselves or something else, because alot of them seem content with Yanilla winning. Makes no sense whatever that they would, but whatever.
We have a few of their members voting for us though, so thats nice. I personally think we shouldnt give them a ministry though if they cant even muster more then 5 votes for us.


Really? I thought that party was supposed to be the most Conservative in the country. Wow that's a shame. But it is good to know that at least some of them voted for Britanno

They are the most socially conservative party, which makes them distrust everyone. Economically though several of their members in the thread in the past few days said they were economically left. What a confusing party...

Though youd think reactionaries and counter revolutionaries would be the first to try to stop Communists from getting power
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The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:03 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:I've removed them from the OP. I'm confused as to whether they're part of the AfA or not.


If a lot of them seem happy that Yanilla won, then I guess they lean more towards the Left-leaning coalition.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:04 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Really? I thought that party was supposed to be the most Conservative in the country. Wow that's a shame. But it is good to know that at least some of them voted for Britanno

They are the most socially conservative party, which makes them distrust everyone. Economically though several of their members in the thread in the past few days said they were economically left. What a confusing party...

Though youd think reactionaries and counter revolutionaries would be the first to try to stop Communists from getting power

I've been in talks with their grassroots members, who have expressed disdain for the leadership.
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Postby Bleckonia » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:06 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:They are the most socially conservative party, which makes them distrust everyone. Economically though several of their members in the thread in the past few days said they were economically left. What a confusing party...

Though youd think reactionaries and counter revolutionaries would be the first to try to stop Communists from getting power

I've been in talks with their grassroots members, who have expressed disdain for the leadership.


So they're not in the coalition anymore?
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:06 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:They are the most socially conservative party, which makes them distrust everyone. Economically though several of their members in the thread in the past few days said they were economically left. What a confusing party...

Though youd think reactionaries and counter revolutionaries would be the first to try to stop Communists from getting power

I've been in talks with their grassroots members, who have expressed disdain for the leadership.


Can they change the leadership?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:08 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I've been in talks with their grassroots members, who have expressed disdain for the leadership.


Can they change the leadership?

A public thread is not the right place to discuss overthrow of a party leadership. Besides, the party head isnt hthe problem, its the rest of their high levels, namely the tyrant
Possibly, though i dont think the rebels have enough support inside the party. A break is possible though, which may do good for us in the longrun, as they are just tottally non cooperative
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The Grumpy Cat wrote:Their very existence... makes me sick.
After a short 600 year rest, the Empire is back, and is better then ever! After our grueling experience since 1453, no longer will our great empire be suppressed. The Ottomans may be gone, but the war continues!
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:09 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I've been in talks with their grassroots members, who have expressed disdain for the leadership.


Can they change the leadership?

Old Tyrannia is set up as 'Lord President', which is essentially a life position. And I'm not endorsing neither condemning any sort of leadership changes, mass-party defections, breakaway parties etc.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:13 pm

I think we should focus inward and get as much Centralist support as we can perhaps we can sway the Stalinists although they likely would endorse Y merely because it opens the door for their own position to be publically supportable by the Majority if it works.

I think the Monarchists if they vote in favor of Britcano will be a minority issue to begin with given how inactive the party has thus far been in the election but i also believe that if they can turn that around and actually endorse Britcano then they should be a part of the Alliance.

We need the numbers here and we nearly have them; I just wish the people i telegrammed actually came back for five fucking seconds and voted.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:14 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Can they change the leadership?

Old Tyrannia is set up as 'Lord President', which is essentially a life position. And I'm not endorsing neither condemning any sort of leadership changes, mass-party defections, breakaway parties etc.

I don't know if I shall be shocked on behalf of party democracy or really really envious of Old Tyrannia, why I am I not Dict Perpetvo? :p

Also what is this grisly affair with proxy votes about?
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:19 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Old Tyrannia is set up as 'Lord President', which is essentially a life position. And I'm not endorsing neither condemning any sort of leadership changes, mass-party defections, breakaway parties etc.

I don't know if I shall be shocked on behalf of party democracy or really really envious of Old Tyrannia, why I am I not Dict Perpetvo? :p

Also what is this grisly affair with proxy votes about?


In Essence one Party changed its Consitution to effect the that the Leader could vote via Proxy for them in the Election.

It was a reviled move and was promptly surpressed despite it being completely legal within the bounds of senatorial law.
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