Senatorial Database [NSGSenate]

[Gothmogs]

Harry Potter:
http://www.tldm.org/News8/Pope%20BenedictAgainstHarryPotter.htm
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn/2005/jun/05062709
http://www.hollywood.com/news/brief/2439745/new-pope-hits-out-at-harry-potter-books?page=all
Yoga:
I was wrong about this, the chief exorcist of the Vatican condemned it, not the pope.

Pope Benedict condemned Harry Potter when he was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, not when he was pope.

Edit: Actually, I'm not sure on that one. Regardless, he did not openly decree that Christians shouldn't read it. Homosexuality is denounced by every pope so far, and the Bible.

Point taken.

[Mediciano]

And anyway, I wasn't debating homosexuality, I was asking how Marcel Tessier reconciled being a homosexual and a Catholic.

[Zannania]

To Marcel,
Do you think there are more homosexual conservatives in the Senate?

To be fair, the current pope has yet to declare a full doctrine and policy on homosexuality to follow, and anyway he is certainly more tolerant of homosexuals then previous popes

That is certainly true. But until he says otherwise, the Church retains its position asserting that homosexuality is detestable.

Senator: "I have not had the time to familiarize myself with every other member of the Senate. With that in mind, I have no doubt that there are others like myself in the Senate. We live in an age where modern ideals are clashing with traditional, time-tested principles. The issue for our generation has become, "Where do we draw the line?" I believe that we can continue to keep Aurentina moving in the right direction, without completely dismissing modern progress. I live as an open homosexual because I believe that my God loves me and created me with a specific sexual orientation. I disagree with the current Catechism of my church in that regard; surely disagreement is not grounds for a complete dismissal of my faith? I was raised a Catholic; my mother was Catholic and I am proud to carry that tradition with me and my children. I simply disagree with the way the Catholic church currently goes about classifying homosexuality."

[Seitonjin]

Jason Liu is open for questions.

Anyone? I have cookies c:

[Mediciano]

Jason Liu is open for questions.

Anyone? I have cookies c:

How do you find time to be both a member of Asian NSYNC and a Senator in Aurentina?

[Seitonjin]

Anyone? I have cookies c:

How do you find time to be both a member of Asian NSYNC and a Senator in Aurentina?

OOC: I should change the picture asdfghjkl;'

IC: W-What are you saying?! I look like nothing like one of the members of an Asian NSYNC. Umm... COOKIE!

Runs off.

[New Corenea]

Jason Liu is open for questions.

Anyone? I have cookies c:

Would you run for President?

[Seitonjin]

Anyone? I have cookies c:

Would you run for President?

It depends. I'm not too sure a sane person would even let me become president.

[New Corenea]

This thread must not die! Senator Scott Whittle is open for question!

[Kouralia]

This thread must not die! Senator Scott Whittle is open for question!

What're your thoughts on bayonets?

[New Corenea]

They're excellent weapons of fear, charging at an enemy with a bayonet on a gun is pretty mind terrifying

[Angleter]

As everyone knows, you can be.... Selective with your beliefs

Except that Catholics are not allowed to contradict the Pope, as he is infallible, and the Catechism was promulgated for the Catholic Church by Pope John Paul II. So a Catholic, therefore, cannot contradict the Catechism.

If he wants to be a Christian who is "sorta-kinda Catholic" then he should say so, and not call himself "Catholic". But no, you cannot be selective about your beliefs if you are a follower of the Roman Catholic Church.

The Pope isn't infallible unless making an ex cathedra definition of faith or morals that he states must be held by the whole Church. Those cases of Papal infallibility (of which there are either seven or eight), as well as the Ecumenical Councils, and (again when speaking definitively on matters of faith and morals) the Ordinary & Universal Magisterium. These comprise the Sacred Magisterium, the set of infallible Catholic teachings. Therefore, though it includes infallible Catholic teachings, and though it (and the Pope's word, and any Bishop's word, and even any priest's word) is authoritative, the CCC is not in itself infallible. And though one would expect a Catholic to treat the Pope's and their clergy's word as authoritative and to be overwhelmingly loyal to the Magisterium (both of them) - there's little point in being a "Catholic, but" who disagrees with the Church on most of its major teachings - it's going a bit far to suggest that one must agree with the Pope (or the prevailing opinion in the Vatican) 100% of the time to be a true Catholic.

On the subject of homosexuality, as Pope Francis and Benedict XVI, and John Paul II said, homosexuality is a tendency towards the act, the sin of sodomy, and not innately sinful in itself - it's a cross to bear, much like the sex drive of a single person is a tendency towards the sins of fornication or masturbation. Though the Church would question Sen. Tessier's decision to partake in the secular institution of gay marriage, opinion on gay relationships themselves (provided that they strive to be chaste, of course) is split within the church - for example, Cardinal Schoenborn last year reinstated a man in a gay relationship who had for that reason been removed from a pastoral council by his parish priest, while the late Cardinal Martini supported civil unions.

[Oneracon]

(OOC: Guys... the topic is back thataway)

Senator Joshua Burchett remains open for questions.

[Zannania]

OOC: Well, at least I got people talking!

Senator Tessier is still open to any questions, and hopes that his previous answer was sufficient.

[Oneracon]

OOC: Well, at least I got people talking!

Senator Tessier is still open to any questions, and hopes that his previous answer was sufficient.

OOC: Well contrary to the name this an IC-ish F7 RP, General is over there )

Senator Tessier, how would you compare your "pro-life" views with those who are of the opinion that abortion should be "safe, legal, and rare"?

[Zannania]

OOC: Well contrary to the name this an IC-ish F7 RP, General is over there )

Senator Tessier, how would you compare your "pro-life" views with those who are of the opinion that abortion should be "safe, legal, and rare"?

OOC: True.

IC: Senator Tessier: "Let's dissect that phrase, and see what it really means.
'Safe' implies that abortion is in fact safe to perform, when in fact it is not. There have been a plethora of studies that show how dangerous and harmful to a woman's body it is to have any abortion performed on it, and I certainly don't feel comfortable allowing citizens in this country to be subjected to a dangerous procedure that in 98% of the cases is totally voluntary and is not the result of a medical emergency.
'Legal' implies that government should sanction the ending of a life. Why in the world would we ever sanction murder? It doesn't make sense to me. Let's encourage adoption and family values instead.
'Rare' implies that if we allow abortion to be performed in Aurentina, somehow the number of abortions would decrease or remain at a low number. I have yet to find a single person that can explain that to me in a way that makes sense.
So to wrap this up, let me give you a phrase of my own: I believe abortion should be prevented, outlawed, and non-existent. Some may call that unrealistic, but I would remind them that a person's right to life surpasses all others."

[Britanno]

The President is still open for questions.

(Can't give direct link on iPod but check the OP, Kourie have me a special one! )

[Ainin]

The President is still open for questions.

(Can't give direct link on iPod but check the OP, Kourie have me a special one! )

Do you like burritos?

[Britanno]

The President is still open for questions.

(Can't give direct link on iPod but check the OP, Kourie have me a special one! )

Do you like burritos?

No, but then again, I don't like most food.

[Geilinor]

Senator Geil is open for questions.

[Kouralia]

The President is still open for questions.

At a risk of being morbid or offensive, but what are or were your thoughts on the, now Late, Retired Lieutenant-General Joseph Kourie?

[Kouralia]

Senator Geil is open for questions.

Same for you.

[Ainin]

The President is still open for questions.

At a risk of being morbid or offensive, but what are or were your thoughts on the, now Late, Retired Lieutenant-General Joseph Kourie?

Are you open to questions too?

If so, how do you pronounce lieutenant?

[Kouralia]

At a risk of being morbid or offensive, but what are or were your thoughts on the, now Late, Retired Lieutenant-General Joseph Kourie?

Are you open to questions too?

If so, how do you pronounce lieutenant?

Correctly. It's not a person who rents out a toilet, gorramit.

[Britanno]

The President is still open for questions.

At a risk of being morbid or offensive, but what are or were your thoughts on the, now Late, Retired Lieutenant-General Joseph Kourie?

Joseph Kourie was a man respected by people from all sides of the political spectrum. I may have disagreed with him inside the senate, but he was a friendly and cheerful man outside of it. The fact that he is now dead is a tragedy to us all, and if his family approves then I shall attend his funeral (presuming he is having one).